episode 20 / August 21, 2019Jeff has to address something about Callie's home decor that he just doesn't understand. Callie and Jeff chat about the powerful conversation that Anderson Cooper and Stephen Colbert shared about grief and gratitude. Jeff addresses some of his feelings around getting fired and the betrayal by one of his closest friends. Callie and Jeff guess each others Enneagram numbers. pillows & decor:  https://www.room422.com Stephen Colbert & Anderson Cooper: https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2019/08/16/colbert-ac360-intv-grief-loss-father-brothers-god-religion-bts-vpx.cnn  Here's a link to the Ennegram test Callie and Jeff used: https://www.integrative9.comThank you for listening, and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE give us 5 stars, subscribe, and tell your friends about The Upside with Callie and Jeff!Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices