John Gruber of Daring Fireball joins Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel for the annual iPhone review week to compare notes on Apple's new iPhone 11 and 11 Pro. John and Nilay also get into their approach for reviewing tech products in 2019. We are conducting an audience survey to better serve you. It takes no more than five minutes, and it really helps out the show. Please take our survey here: www.voxmedia.com/podsurvey. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices