Have you ever considered the forensic side to veterinary medicine? If you're interested in hearing more about that, this is the episode for you! We chat with Lisa Smith, MS, LVT, VTS(ECC) to discuss what it looks like to obtain a Master's Degree in Veterinary Forensics, obtaining evidence in cases that present to your hospital that may involve abuse or neglect, and mandated reporting, and so much more! This episode will definitely appeal to fans of the true crime genre. All that said, there are some heavy topics in here, but this is unfortunately a very real side of veterinary medicine and we as veterinary technician and veterinary nurses must understand our responsibility in helping these patients. There might also be some light-hearted fun-poking at Jeff for his love of pumpkin spice coffee. So grab a cup of your favorite coffee and join us at the Vet Tech Cafe!