In this episode I chat with Adam Fry-Pierce, a former director of the design leadership forum at InVision and current head of design ops at Docusign.



He has personally onboarded and interacted with over 3200 design leaders in the DLF and has some takeaways and lessons from those experiences that you might find interesting. Topics we cover:

- If all design leaders have everything together.

- Leadership and Culture lessons.

- Diversity.



Connect with Adam here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamfp/



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