David Cary is the founder of Empty Packs, a new brand of ultra-light tramping packs custom-made in a shed in Te Anau, New Zealand.

David's story is similar to many of the great outdoor brands of today. Patagonia started with Yvon Chouinard creating hand-forged mountain climbing gear in the 1950s.  Macpac started with Bruce McIntyre making backpacks in his Christchurch garage in the 1970s.

Empty Packs has started with David teaching himself how to sew ultra-light tramping gear in a small workshop in Te Anau.

In this episode, we talk about how Empty Packs got started, why David thinks heavyweight, factory-made tramping packs are unnecessary for most outdoors people, and putting Empty Packs to the test on some epic adventures.

The remarkable thing about David is that he's not driven by profit, rather he wants to do as much good in the world as possible.

If Empty Packs becomes the next big thing in tramping gear - which we think it could - you heard it here first.

//EPISODE EXTRAS//

Check out the Empty Packs website here.

Follow Empty Packs on Instagram here.

Follow David on Instagram here.

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