Ben Katt discusses his beautiful new book, 'The Way Home.' We talk about his experiences of mystical moments, the importance of paying attention to them, and the universal aspects of the journey to wholeness--including the excruciating but nece

Finding your way back to your self with Kaitlyn Crain

Dec 25th, 2023

Instantly one of our favorite all-time podcasts, our daughter Kaitlyn comes on for a vulnerable, far-reaching conversation about everything from pageants to the highs and lows of her experience with Christian school in Oklahoma, her passion for

On Advent, saints, prophets, elders, hiddeness, & arguing with God

Dec 19th, 2023

One of our all-time favorite Zeitcast guests, Dr. C.E.W. Green wrote the foreword to The Book of Waiting: Reflections on Advent & Christmas. His perspective and insight not only helped shape the book in final form, here he once again illuminate

The episode where Nicole finally comes on (to interview Jonathan on The Book of Waiting)

Dec 14th, 2023

In this conversation, Jonathan and Nicole discuss the inspiration behind Jonathan's book on Advent and the timing of its release. They explore the importance of waiting and longing, and how to navigate cynicism and despair. They also discuss fi

love not the world.

May 12th, 2023

“The world is the Lord’s, and everything in it.” “For God so loved the world…” “Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world.” So…which is it? A sermon on interpretation, that could open up how you see “the world” differently. #

eating and drinking damnation

May 10th, 2023

What communion is, why it matters, who it is for...who is qualified for it. This is everything I most deeply believe about the mystery of the table, and why I still believe this is the invitation that changes everything.

my sheep know my voice.

May 1st, 2023

How do we know the voice of God, apart from all the other voices? Artificial intelligence can duplicate our speech patterns where those even who know us the best wouldn’t be able to distinguish the sound. Yet Jesus says, “my sheep know my voice

God is in the tender places.

Apr 27th, 2023

seven miles

Apr 27th, 2023

What in your life has ever worked out exactly the way that you've planned it? On this seven mile journey, maybe a seven day journey, or maybe it feels like you start this road all over again every seven minutes...we explore the pattern of the m

"They have taken my Jesus away."

Apr 9th, 2023

An Easter sermon for people who feel like they have carried your Jesus off. Like Eli with Hannah in the First Testament, "the priests" may have seen your grief as disruption, intoxication, disorderliness. But Jesus sees your weeping for what it

Preaching to the Dead in a Graveyard on Good Friday Night

Apr 7th, 2023

Y’all know how it is…sometimes you just get so wound up you have to go to preach at a graveyard after midnight! Perfectly normal behavior. My soul was seriously so agitated and electrified by the witness of Justin Jones & Justin Pearson last ni

Maundy Thursday: on nonviolent atonement and the meaning of the cross

Apr 6th, 2023

On this Maundy Thursday Zeitcast, we talk about why it matters to believe that the character of the God who washed the feet of the disciples is the same as the God who died on the cross--and how what we believe about the death of Jesus matters

On Ramadan, with Mimi Edou

Mar 30th, 2023

Special guest Mimi Edou joins us to talk about Ramadan, fasting, plus reflections from Jonathan on interfaith work, and Shusaku Endo's Silence!

the story God tells about you, with Joel Everson

Mar 23rd, 2023

I don’t know quite what to tell you about this, since we had not felt anything or said anything quite like what we felt and said before. What I can say, is that the story God is telling about you, may be very different from the story they tell

Jesus is thirsty

Mar 22nd, 2023

Whether it's behind the bar at The Whisk or behind the pulpit, if the right Reverend Joel Everson is pouring...trust me, it's only going to be the good stuff!!! My instant favorite sermon on the woman at the well, this Women's History Month.

deep darkness

Mar 21st, 2023

If you find yourself in a place of "deep darkness," a place so dark not even "your word is a light unto my feet"...if you feel far from home, don't know how to get back, don't know where home is, feel trapped inside the nightmare you can't wake

a real-time first take review of U2's new "Songs of Surrender!"

Mar 17th, 2023

U2. Songs of Surrender. With our good friends Stella and Brother George Dickel.

grace also to you, John MacArthur

Mar 16th, 2023

MEAAAANNN...by God, GENE!!! On this Zeitcast, we are talking about how people can think they are culture-free, but everybody else is shaped by "the culture," inglorious ways of defining the "glory of God," how it's possible to take Revelation l

speaking, on speaking

Mar 14th, 2023

Do you speak--to any size crowd, behind a podium, or behind a screen? Our daughter Kaitlyn is competing for Miss Teen Oklahoma, so I've been talking to her about speaking--which got me thinking more broadly about the handful of things I most de

trauma-informed spirituality with Jonathan Puddle

Mar 11th, 2023

We can't speak the truth about faith, without speaking the truth about our bodies--without speaking the truth about our trauma. Whether you are dealing with your own trauma or someone else's (chances are pretty high you are dealing with both!),