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You know, sometimes I forget

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no, we need to be very. We didn't need you

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at the start and we don't need you now. We just kind of.

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F*** off. Bad

1:04

attitude because we are trying to grow

1:06

the listeners and grow the podcast always. So,

1:08

you know, I want to be welcoming and I want to

1:10

like, we don't want to have too many in jokes

1:13

that go over their heads. We don't want to have too

1:15

much stuff that's not explained. So,

1:18

in the interest of saying hello, welcome to the

1:19

show. The

1:20

job of a paranormal investigator like me and Rory, we

1:22

investigate the paranormal.

1:24

I think that's all that's covered. Yeah.

1:27

And we so and the paranormal. That

1:30

is ghosts, as Rory said, that is ghouls. Again,

1:33

I think this is stuff that probably they do know about, even if

1:35

they haven't listened to the podcast. But like, OK,

1:37

so a podcast. This is unnecessary. A weekly, not

1:39

always weekly, 60 minute.

1:41

Not always, but sometimes and sometimes a little over, sometimes a little

1:43

under. You keep being really specific

1:46

and then having to correct yourself because you were way too specific. So let's just,

1:48

yeah, OK, I think just move forward. I

1:50

think a lot of people know probably what a ghost is if they

1:53

have downloaded the podcast. Well, now you mention it, we should probably explain

1:55

that too. So, when someone dies,

1:57

when they love each other, when two people love each other very much

1:59

and they die.

1:59

They come back as kind

2:02

of see-through. If you've ever seen Casper, well, it's

2:04

not exactly like Casper. Okay, we need to stop. All

2:06

right, so. Our baby's made. I

2:09

don't know that one yet. I'll let you, I'll go back

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to letting you host. No, I'm so excited to be

2:13

here and hosting a brand new episode of

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This Paranormal Life. Kit, we were

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supposed to record this episode yesterday,

2:20

but your flight to London was

2:22

delayed, so we ended up having to push it back

2:25

a day. Yeah, the MIBs were

2:27

trying to keep me away from the

2:29

microphone.

2:29

All I'm going to say is thank

2:33

God in heaven that your flight was delayed,

2:35

because yesterday I was maybe

2:37

the most hungover I have been in years.

2:41

It was bad. For me to say that. Which

2:43

is saying a lot. Oh my God. Because

2:46

Rory saying that is like Michael

2:48

Jordan saying that's the best dunk I've

2:50

done in years. That was a really

2:52

hard game of basketball. He's played

2:55

quite a few hard games of basketball. So

2:57

for him to even mention that one was difficult, it

2:59

means it was a very hard game. So it was a blessing

3:02

that we didn't have to come in and record a podcast because

3:04

it would have been awful. Rory survived

3:06

a Jack Daniels shaped IED

3:09

in the war zones of East London. But

3:11

hey, I bounced back. I'm feeling great today.

3:13

I got a big cup of coffee and I'm ready to dive

3:15

into a fresh paranormal story. What you

3:17

got for me? Let me find

3:19

out. This is so early in the podcast. I'm not as ready as I thought.

3:22

So

3:23

early in the podcast

3:25

to be getting lost. I'm

3:31

worried that you've abandoned your iPad. Rory has been

3:34

reading off an iPad up until this point now. He

3:37

seems to be dialing a number or something. For your

3:39

information kit, I'm

3:41

trying to figure out which one of our listeners

3:43

submitted it so I can give them thanks. Because I actually

3:45

care about our listeners. Yeah, you never

3:48

do that, by the way. I was completely

3:50

out of character to remember to show someone

3:52

I can't find it either. So you ain't getting

3:54

shit.

3:55

Andrew Gorham. He is at least one person

3:58

who suggested this. I think they've

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suggested cases before, so thank you for

4:02

sending in this recommendation,

4:04

Kit. Today we're going to be investigating

4:07

not a paranormal cryptid, not

4:10

a ghost or a poltergeist necessarily.

4:12

We're investigating a real physical thing here

4:15

that has been potentially possessed

4:18

by an evil spirit. Well, you say it's

4:21

real and physical. I think that's time for me to decide.

4:23

I'll see about that. But before we dive into today's

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Okay, Kit, it's 1971

4:39

in North America, and a middle-aged

4:41

woman is wandering through an antique store, trying

4:43

to choose a gift for her daughter, Donna. Now,

4:46

Donna was a student nurse who was just about

4:48

to start school, so whatever the present

4:50

was,

4:51

it was gonna have to be a special one.

4:53

There's a lot of fantastic options at the antique

4:55

store, but one in particular

4:58

stands out. A vintage secondhand

5:01

Raggedy Ann doll. Vintage,

5:03

secondhand, and raggedy? I think you

5:05

better keep looking, because let

5:07

me tell you something. People like new

5:10

shit.

5:10

I don't care if this was 1971. Get her an iPad. All

5:13

right? I

5:15

will say, before you go down this path too much, Raggedy

5:18

Ann is the brand of the

5:20

doll. It's not a Raggedy Ann doll.

5:23

Get her a fresh Ann, a new Ann.

5:25

Don't get her a Raggedy Ann. The fresh Ann

5:27

is Raggedy. That's how it comes. So

5:30

she buys it for Donna and drives it over

5:32

to her daughter's new apartment. Just

5:34

to be clear, this daughter is too old for dolls. Way

5:36

too old. I think she's starting nursing school. And

5:39

she's going to university. Yeah, she's

5:40

a student nurse, so again,

5:43

hey, if that's what you're into, fine. No

5:45

judgment here. Some people might think I'm a little

5:47

bit too old to have Beyblades,

5:51

and to those people I say... Let

5:53

it rip. What? Let

5:56

it rip, motherf**ker. I say let it rip and

5:58

watch your back. Hey, we've

6:01

all been there. Sometimes we act a little

6:03

bit younger than our

6:05

biological age says.

6:07

Sometimes me and Cora get up in the morning and she

6:09

wants to watch cartoons. We put on Teletubbies.

6:12

And sometimes, after nine or 10

6:15

minutes, Cora will wander off. But I'm

6:17

still pretty engrossed in what Tinky Winky's getting up to.

6:19

Because there's a storyline. And

6:22

I honestly think they write that stuff for, at least,

6:25

I'm not saying I have the mental age of a seven-year-old,

6:27

but

6:28

it's actually pretty hard to follow the story sometimes.

6:31

It's pretty complicated. I just

6:33

don't know where the tubby custard came from. I just

6:35

don't know how it gets eaten or produced. And I want to find out

6:37

more. So as I said, she bought the

6:39

doll, drove it over to her daughter's apartment

6:41

to deliver the gift. But

6:43

this little f***er was more than

6:46

just a doll kit.

6:47

She might as well have been delivering her daughter

6:49

to Tutankhamen's mummified corpse.

6:52

Whoa. Because this raggedy Ann

6:55

came with some consequences. Now

6:57

Donna's mother delivered the gift. And just

7:00

as she thought, Donna loved it.

7:02

She's beautiful. Thank you, mom.

7:05

What should I call her? Ann? No,

7:07

that's too plain. What about Anna?

7:10

Who? Or Annabelle?

7:13

At this point, Annabelle becomes a permanent

7:16

guest at the apartment, joining

7:18

Donna and her roommate, Angie. It's

7:20

a cute little vintage item to have around the flat.

7:22

And guests come and ask questions about it. But

7:25

it wasn't long before Annabelle had

7:27

overstayed her welcome.

7:29

One day, Donna came home to find the

7:31

doll sprawled out on the hallway floor.

7:37

Angie, what's Annabelle doing on the

7:39

floor? Last I saw it was

7:41

on the chair in the hall. It must have slipped

7:43

off. Donna dusts Annabelle off

7:45

and rests her carefully back on the chair,

7:48

this time placing her all the way to

7:50

the back so she won't fall on the floor again. Then

7:52

she went to her room to get in her comfy clothes.

7:55

It was a crazy day. I've been rushed

7:57

off my feet. What were you thinking about cooking

7:59

for Donna? dinner, because I thought that when

8:03

Donna walked back into the hallway,

8:05

the doll was back on the floor. How

8:08

could this be? She just put her back on the chair

8:10

a few minutes ago. Kit, we've

8:12

been here before. We have. We've seen

8:15

this happen. We've seen dolls or

8:17

inanimate objects come to life. Classic

8:19

dickhead roommates. She's

8:21

a liar. You think there's some gaslighting going on

8:23

here? Sorry, I might be getting off track. You're

8:26

saying this isn't a problematic roommate situation.

8:28

It looks like this little f***er is moving

8:31

about by itself. Now, I have a very

8:33

low tolerance for items being

8:35

cursed. Yeah. If I so much

8:37

as thought that I'd put my MacBook

8:40

Pro to sleep the night before and

8:42

I wake up and the screen is powered on,

8:45

I'm smashing it with a hammer. Yeah. It's destroyed.

8:48

I have zero tolerance for

8:50

items being possessed in my household. If

8:53

I use the last of a tube

8:55

of toothpaste, and then I wake up the next

8:57

day and there's actually, there actually is a tiny, tiny

9:00

amount like just about squeeze out. It's a tiny

9:02

drop. I'm smashing the bathroom to bits with a sledge

9:04

hammer because something happened

9:06

there. Yeah. I thought the toothpaste was

9:08

done. It is not done. That's paranormal.

9:11

It's, and this is what we're seeing here. We're

9:13

seeing a doll seem like it's moving about

9:15

by itself. No way. You're completely

9:17

right though. Anytime we've talked about potentially cursed,

9:19

potentially paranormal items, artifacts,

9:22

we are begging, begging the people in the

9:24

story to lob them out of a fifth

9:27

story window as soon as possible. I

9:29

once had dinner at Kit's cousin's house and

9:31

they said, would you like a biscuit with your tea? I think there's one

9:33

left in the packet. There were two in the packet.

9:36

I burned that place to the ground. I

9:39

didn't even say a f***ing word. I just

9:41

poured the gasoline on the floor. Yes,

9:43

I brought my

9:44

own gasoline and lit the match. One

9:46

time I went to a showing of Ant-Man at the

9:48

local cinema. They said it was starting at 6.30.

9:51

There was actually eight minutes of ads and it

9:53

started at 6.38. I

9:56

killed the guy who sold me the ticket.

9:58

I straight up killed him. You just have to, he's

10:00

cursed. The whole thing was

10:02

cursed. So Donna decided to take

10:05

the doll up to her room and put it down

10:07

gently on the bed, dead center

10:09

of the bed. After dinner, Donna

10:12

went to the living room to watch TV, but her

10:14

seat was taken. No!

10:17

That's right, Annabelle was back downstairs,

10:20

this time sitting on the sofa. Now,

10:23

obviously being the logical nurse that she

10:25

is, Donna suspects that she's simply

10:27

being pranked by her roommate. So

10:29

she

10:29

doesn't give it any more thought. But that

10:32

night, Donna awoke to

10:34

the sound of footsteps in the hallway. Was

10:36

it her roommate, Angie, back from a late night

10:39

shift? Suddenly, she

10:41

heard a blood curdling scream. Donna

10:44

ran out into the hallway to see her roommate

10:47

panting and clutching her chest. In

10:50

front of her in the hallway was Annabelle.

10:53

Angie, what's wrong? What

10:55

the hell is wrong with you? Angie

10:57

cried. Why would you put this outside

10:59

my room? It scared the life out of me. I

11:01

didn't! Why did you put the doll

11:04

on the sofa last night?

11:06

Angie looked confused. Both

11:08

girls claimed that neither of them had been moving

11:10

the doll. From this night

11:12

onward, things get progressively

11:15

stranger.

11:16

The doll starts moving around every day

11:19

by itself.

11:20

We're talking toy story levels of sentience

11:22

here. Jesus. Donna

11:24

and Angie eventually invite their friend,

11:27

Lou, over to take a look at the doll. Maybe

11:29

they're overreacting. Maybe the doll isn't

11:31

really cursed. They're not overreacting.

11:34

They're underreacting. As soon as Lou

11:36

arrives into the house, he can feel

11:39

something is wrong. In fact,

11:41

almost as soon as he sees the doll, he

11:43

starts telling them they have to get rid of it. A

11:47

man after my own heart. Despite

11:50

Lou insisting that they get rid of the doll immediately,

11:52

Donna holds onto it.

11:54

So what if now and again it seems to come

11:56

to life?

11:57

It's not hurting anybody. Hey, this

11:59

is the problem. problem

12:00

with gifts from friends and family. Yeah.

12:04

Doesn't matter how shitty the gift is, it's automatically

12:06

sentimental. Right. My parents

12:08

could give me a tropical disease in a jar

12:10

and I would have to cherish it because it's

12:12

from my parents. And this is kind of the

12:15

cul-de-sac that Donna finds herself

12:17

in. Yeah that Christmas morning you were like,

12:20

oh, it's malaria. Thank

12:22

you. I guess, yeah, I'm just gonna put

12:24

this over here. Aren't you gonna open it up? No

12:28

I don't think I should, dad. Well,

12:30

your

12:30

mother and I put a lot of money into that. Yeah,

12:33

it took me nine months to get over

12:35

the dengue fever I got last year

12:37

for my birthday. Yeah, it's

12:39

true, it's true. I've been given some very

12:42

ridiculous gifts from my

12:44

family over the years and it does just become

12:46

sentimental. I remember my

12:49

mum for Christmas a few years ago

12:51

gave me a DVD that

12:54

teaches you how to street dance.

12:58

She wanted you to be a B-boy. This

13:00

is not a joke. My parents wanted me to be a

13:02

f***ing lawyer. Your

13:05

mum was like, I really think our

13:07

dog has a ring to it. It

13:09

was a DVD. This was not even

13:11

long ago, by the way, it was a few years. We

13:13

don't even have a DVD player in the house. And

13:16

I got a DVD, it was an instructional

13:18

video called, I think it was literally

13:21

called Fat Moves, spelled

13:23

P-H-A-T. Of course. And Street

13:25

Dance Grooves. Fat

13:28

Move, P-H-A-T for fat boys, F-A-T.

13:33

Spelt the regular way. Yeah, the

13:35

second one was just a regular one. Yeah, it was more of

13:37

a workout DVD. I

13:40

was quite large at the time and yes, this is

13:42

my parents trying to give me a subtle hint. They

13:44

thought that you were a nerd, I think. You

13:47

were playing too many video games, they wanted you to meet

13:49

some girls through

13:50

the medium of dance. Yeah,

13:53

that would make sense because the other gift was a prostitute.

13:56

So I think they obviously thought I was nerdy and

13:58

sheltered and they were like.

13:59

You need to learn how to dance and have

14:02

sex with a woman Rory. This is Rory

14:05

this is crystal and she'd love to see

14:07

some of your new moves. Why don't you show crystal

14:09

your new moves? Not sexual

14:11

moves. That's for later The dance

14:13

moves

14:14

so fucked up. What my dad Christmas

14:17

dinner that that evening We're all just like sitting

14:19

around the whole family and crystal

14:22

So should we go around and say what we're thankful for crystals

14:24

just chain smoking at the end of the table? Ah

14:28

Pass the ham course

14:31

darling You know, I'm

14:33

about to tick over into four hours

14:36

Remember dad like you know, we're like Rory's not gonna

14:38

take long. Don't worry mom

14:42

Don't tell her and

14:44

to this day I still have

14:46

the fat move Street dance grooves

14:49

DVD and I still keep in touch with crystal because

14:51

they're sentimental Gifts, this is it

14:53

as I said despite Lou insisting they get rid of

14:56

the doll They didn't Donna held

14:58

on to it And while it wasn't hurting

15:00

anyone at the time as we know these

15:03

paranormal stories can escalate very

15:05

quickly Hmm Donna began to

15:07

find notes Written

15:11

all over her home. This is not okay.

15:13

The notes said help

15:18

Help us What does

15:20

that mean and help Lou? We

15:23

need some more details more these notes look like I said

15:25

I have to know I I don't know

15:28

if there are any pictures of the notes

15:30

because in theory if you were because

15:32

I Like that you're just dancing around

15:34

the fact that the doll wrote the notes

15:37

sure. Oh, yeah big time So in

15:39

theory they should be

15:40

the letters should be really small because the dolls

15:42

really small It should be like really small handwriting,

15:45

right? Yeah, like maybe some backwards

15:47

letters because it's kind of cute like kid right? Yeah.

15:49

Yeah You know help me. Yeah,

15:52

you know, it was blood it was scrawled

15:54

in blood It was 20 feet tall took up

15:56

most of the side of the house. It was enormous. No,

15:59

I'm not I

15:59

I think these are just small handwritten notes.

16:02

Not sure where they're coming from. Call Lou. Call

16:04

Lou right now, because I'm starting to think Lou, I

16:07

think Lou might be six foot under. I don't know what Annabel

16:09

did last night, but I think Lou might be six foot

16:11

under. It does say, yeah, one of the notes is help

16:13

Lou, who was their friend who came

16:15

to help them look at the doll. And last thing

16:17

I remember, Lou said they

16:19

needed to get rid of Annabel, which

16:23

Annabel probably didn't take too kindly to. Yeah,

16:26

if anything, I think this is maybe a signed, we

16:29

maybe just let Annabel

16:29

stay. We just maybe let Annabel do

16:32

whatever she wants, because you don't want to be the next

16:34

person that needs help when the notes start appearing

16:36

again. Yeah, sometimes you just got to pay the protection

16:38

money and understand that the world's

16:41

a corrupt place. And the doll hasn't stopped

16:43

moving, by the way. At this point, the

16:45

doll is basically teleporting around the house.

16:48

The doll's got a hold of fat street moves. Volume

16:50

three. His doll is popping and locking,

16:53

breakdancing, moonwalking. Yeah,

16:58

it is. This thing is alive now,

16:59

fully alive. It's moving around

17:02

so frequently that Donna and Angie

17:04

barely even take notice anymore. That

17:06

is until one evening, Donna

17:08

returned home and was surprised to find Annabel

17:11

where she left her, sitting comfortably on the

17:13

bed. But something's different.

17:15

There's something on the doll's hands.

17:19

When Angie moves in- Please don't be blood. Please

17:21

don't be blood. When Angie moves in for a closer inspection,

17:24

she can't believe what she's seeing. It's

17:27

blood. It's blood, oh god. It was blood, 100%. Does

17:31

anyone know where Lou is? Has

17:34

anyone seen Lou in days? We

17:36

have all the evidence we need to put Annabel

17:39

behind bars. She searched around

17:41

the house and couldn't find where the blood had come

17:43

from. There were no drops on the bed or stains

17:45

on the sheets. It looked as if

17:48

the blood was coming from the

17:51

doll. We are so, so,

17:53

so deeply far beyond the

17:56

point at which Donna should have just-

18:00

put her in the microwave, I don't know, do

18:02

something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought,

18:04

how are you supposed to go to university,

18:07

Donna? How are you supposed to focus on your

18:09

day-to-day life if you tolerate

18:11

the chaos that this doll has brought to your life? If

18:14

I have a medical issue and

18:16

I need to go to the doctor to have

18:18

some sort of procedure done upon

18:20

me, I don't want the nurse to come into the

18:22

room and be like, sorry, sorry, I'm late,

18:24

sorry, I was just up late because this, this

18:27

f***ing doll that I have is just

18:29

kind of- Right, I'm bleeding out over here. Yeah, yeah, it's

18:31

like, yeah, can I just get some stitches though, because it's out of my

18:33

head, it's kind of, yeah, actually the doll

18:36

is bleeding as well. Did I mention that, the doll? Did

18:38

I mention the doll that I have in my house? Did I get a different nurse?

18:41

Yeah, I want my nurse to be well rested,

18:44

mentally fine, if they do have a

18:46

doll for it to be unalive.

18:49

And if it is alive, I'd like them to be able

18:51

to deal with the problem. And I know I said

18:53

all that shit about gifts being sentimental.

18:55

I think mum will understand. Yeah,

18:58

yeah, yeah. I think you let her in on what's going

19:00

on since the doll turned up, she'll be like, that's

19:02

cool, I'll get you an iTunes voucher. Yeah,

19:05

we can replace the doll, we can do a different thing. I'm

19:07

not pissed that you threw it in a bin

19:10

because it killed Lou. So it's,

19:12

it obviously did, right? We don't need to dance around

19:15

it. Well, here's the good thing.

19:17

If this blood is coming from the doll, does

19:19

that mean the doll can die? Right,

19:22

if it bleeds, we can kill it kind of logic. Exactly,

19:25

Donna and Angie realize that they're gonna need

19:27

some outside help. So they call a medium

19:30

to investigate the doll and try and figure

19:32

out just what in the sweet fuck is

19:35

going on. So a medium comes

19:37

around to the house and performs a seance.

19:40

The group gather around the table with their hands clasped,

19:43

Annabelle on the table in the middle of them. And

19:46

it isn't long before the medium begins to whisper

19:48

secrets from the other side. I

19:51

see a child, a

19:54

dead child on this very

19:56

spot before this building stood

19:58

here.

19:59

And now the spirit of this child

20:02

is... It's... it's

20:04

inside your doll!

20:06

Whoa, okay.

20:09

Right? We're seeing a, um,

20:12

a classic explanation

20:14

behind a haunted object, which is a lost

20:17

soul that went through some traumatic experience

20:20

on Earth, and now its consciousness,

20:23

or whatever unfinished grudges and

20:25

hatred it holds in itself, has now manifested

20:28

inside of an inanimate object.

20:30

Got you. So this really, arguably,

20:33

could have been anything. Um,

20:36

they just happened to have a creepy doll,

20:39

which the girls paid attention to, but

20:41

this, the spirit of the child, could have just

20:44

as equally

20:45

possessed a Game Boy Advance, or

20:47

a Slinky. Yeah, yeah. And

20:49

we might not have noticed. That would have been chill. The

20:51

Slinky would have been chill, because you can kind of, it's like,

20:54

oh, where is he this time? He's at the top of the

20:56

stairs, and he's gone down them. He's

20:59

like, okay, well, that's fine with me. That's kind of fine.

21:01

I don't even think Slinkies can bleed, you know?

21:04

They're not really that threatening. If you wake up in the middle

21:06

of the night and there's a Slinky on your bed, it's like,

21:08

alright, get the f*** off me, you know? What are you gonna do?

21:11

Wrap yourself around my throat? Yeah,

21:13

or trip me up while I'm trying to go down the stairs?

21:15

Neither did I think about it, actually. The Slinky

21:18

could be a problem.

21:19

But it kind of sucks that

21:22

obviously this lost soul was like, okay, got

21:25

to possess something, right? Can't

21:27

just float around here all the time, so I guess that toaster,

21:31

maybe I could burn their bread or something, or

21:33

that

21:33

carpet. It could be

21:36

more shaggy than a shag carpet should be. Static.

21:39

Good cryostatic. And then Donna's

21:41

mom just comes in the front door. Donna,

21:44

I got you this old ancient f***ed up-looking

21:46

creepy little piece of shit doll! And he's like,

21:49

boom! I can't believe I almost went for the

21:51

toaster. This one is perfect. Basically

21:54

a little child body I can go back into

21:56

now. Yeah, so clearly there's supposed to be

21:58

a direct parallel here that the child...

21:59

child has obviously used

22:03

the similar visage

22:05

of this doll has gone. Okay, that's that's

22:07

the right fit for me. Yeah, absolutely

22:09

nailed it. That's why you don't don't buy creepy

22:12

shit for your house because

22:13

you're just buying vessels for paranormal

22:15

creatures to inhabit.

22:17

Now you might think because Donna and Angie

22:19

have now made a connection with this doll

22:22

and heard its story, the spirit would

22:24

be able to rest in peace. Absolutely

22:27

not. Raggedy Ann started scratching

22:30

people, scratching them with her mind.

22:34

At one point, Louis, who is still alive,

22:36

visits the house and gets so scratched

22:38

up, he had to take his shirt off just to stop

22:41

the fabric from hurting him. Lou,

22:43

Lou must be extremely down bad to

22:46

still be coming around these girls house at

22:48

this point. He

22:50

was, he had no options whatsoever.

22:53

He's like talking to his friends at the bar that night. It's like, yeah,

22:55

I started seeing this chick, but it's just,

22:59

you know, some chicks have got like a

23:01

complicated past or like an ex or

23:03

something that you have to deal with. Yeah.

23:06

This is

23:06

his friend for finishing his thoughts. Like, yeah,

23:08

bro. It's like, you know, the last girl I was

23:10

seeing, she'd been in a couple of bad relationships. So, you

23:12

know, there's kind of some trust issues

23:14

going on. He's like, yeah, yeah. It's a little like

23:16

that. It's a little like that. Uh, does

23:18

he have, does she have like, uh, like an ex

23:21

partner who's still in the picture? Oh,

23:23

they're still in the picture. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

23:26

They're, they're, they're actually in her bed right now. Oh

23:29

Jesus. That's complicated. And

23:31

they attacked me. He scratches. Yeah.

23:34

It's either that or,

23:36

uh, or Lou is going over there and

23:38

he's like, they're just not interested at

23:40

all. But he's like, Oh, I'm

23:43

getting scratched so hard. I got to take my shirt

23:45

off. Oh God. He's

23:47

like flexing. Do you think? Yeah.

23:50

I've been working on it. I don't know if that's going to leave

23:52

a bruise. You want to take a look at it?

23:55

Well, this is where we're at now, Kit. Teleporting

23:58

around the house. Fine. bleeding

24:01

all over the bedsheets. I guess that's

24:03

okay too. But scratching,

24:06

that's where they drew the line. Cause

24:08

guess what? One up from scratching is

24:10

biting or bashing in kneecaps

24:12

with a little doll baseball bat. It

24:15

all escalates from here. Yeah, Annabelle is

24:17

testing them. But what are Donna

24:20

and Angie going to do? They clearly

24:22

can't beat Annabelle by

24:24

themselves. They don't have the expertise. They haven't

24:26

tried. They have not tried. They've

24:28

tried nothing and they're all out of ideas. They

24:31

need to bring in the big guns. Some

24:33

people who have dealt with this before and know

24:36

how to deal with it again. So of

24:38

course they bring in America's

24:40

most famous husband and wife, ghost

24:43

fighting duo,

24:44

Ed and Lorraine Warren. Whoa!

24:48

Now this is where people might start to put

24:50

together the pieces of this puzzle. This

24:53

raggedy Ann doll was the inspiration

24:55

behind the Annabelle movie, which

24:58

is a very famous horror movie in the Conjuring

25:00

universe. Love it.

25:03

If Rory is the Michael Jordan of Hangovers,

25:06

Ed and Lorraine Warren are the MJ

25:08

and Scotty Pippin of busting

25:10

the paranormal. It's true. After kitten

25:12

Rory, of course. If you don't

25:15

know, we have talked about Ed and Lorraine

25:17

Warren a lot before, but

25:19

they're the real deal. They are

25:21

paranormal investigators that have been involved in many,

25:24

many investigations over the last 50 years,

25:27

such as the Union Cemetery, Electric

25:29

Woman,

25:30

the Enfield Poltergeist and the Amityville

25:33

Horror, which is, you know, I

25:35

know we've got a lot of important cases under

25:37

our belt as well. Furbies. Furbies,

25:39

the donkey lady. I kind of

25:41

did a very- Jeff DeMongos. Very early solo

25:44

investigation into the Dublin

25:46

Gorilla Man.

25:47

Actually maybe you should. I need to email Ed

25:49

and Lorraine about that because- I don't think shitting

25:51

yourself and having to go to 20 years of therapy

25:54

is a conscious investigating anything. They definitely should

25:56

look into it. I think so.

25:58

So these guys are the real deal. And

26:00

believe it or not, this is actually one of the first

26:02

cases that put them on the map. Wow,

26:05

interesting. But what are they going to do

26:07

to take down Annabelle once and for all?

26:09

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So Ed and Lorraine Warren show

27:22

up to the house, bringing a priest

27:25

along with them, which is a pretty strong

27:27

indication of how seriously they are taking

27:29

this thing. The priest began examining the

27:31

doll while Donna caught everyone up to speed.

27:34

So we had a medium here not long

27:36

ago to examine it. That's how

27:38

we found out it was the spirit of a little girl.

27:41

The priest dropped the doll. Is

27:44

that what it told you? That

27:46

it was a little girl? Yes,

27:49

that's what the medium said. My

27:52

dear, it lied to

27:54

you. This doll is possessed

27:57

by a demon. He's possessed, I think.

28:01

Yeah, pretty cool demon as well. Pretty

28:04

sexy guy. Everyone likes him down

28:06

in hell. This is a really cool

28:08

thing that I don't know if we've ever had

28:10

in a case before,

28:11

but it makes so much sense. Why on

28:14

earth do you trust the doll? Why

28:17

on earth would you just be like, oh yeah, it

28:19

says it was a little girl who had

28:21

great hardships and actually we should be pretty

28:23

kind to her because she had a hard life.

28:26

And the doll says actually it deserves the master

28:28

bedroom. Because

28:30

it was actually, it's an angel. It says

28:32

it's an angel actually. Because I don't know

28:34

if you know, but toddlers lie and

28:37

demon toddlers lie more than

28:39

anyone else. You've got one.

28:41

So

28:41

you know more than anyone.

28:43

At this point, Donna has had enough. It

28:45

doesn't matter if the doll was a gift. She wants

28:47

it out of the house. So the

28:49

gang got to work. The priest whipped

28:52

out the holy water, started dousing

28:54

the entire building.

28:55

And when he finished, the Warrens packed Annabelle

28:58

into their car, finally taking

29:00

the doll off of their hands forever.

29:03

That's a good service. You know, sometimes we've

29:05

seen it in the past that people come in

29:07

and you know, ooh, try to do a seance.

29:09

Ooh, try and

29:11

cleanse the room with crystals or whatever. But

29:13

they're like, put on these goggles to protect your

29:15

eyes. We're going to f*** this place up with

29:17

holy water. Yeah. And then we're going

29:20

to remove the doll, the artifact,

29:22

and drop it to the bottom of the Mariana trench.

29:25

There is no getting out of this. There

29:27

is this is a hundred percent success rate. Yeah,

29:29

I kind of like this. It's less of a

29:32

it's less of a what they have before with the medium,

29:34

which is like bringing someone in to talk to

29:36

the doll and more of like a paranormal

29:40

moving company.

29:41

Yeah. It's kind of like, hey, it's very

29:43

just meat and potatoes. You got a problem. You

29:45

got an object that's causing you grief. Us

29:48

and Father Ryan are going to come.

29:50

We're going to basically

29:52

waterboard this thing with holy water. And

29:55

then if you want, we'll take it away. We'll do a whole removal

29:57

service.

29:58

We can you can throw in a

29:59

a bunch of extras as well. It's like if you want, Father

30:02

Ryan will spend the night

30:03

just to make sure everything's okay. Now

30:05

we also do sage burning if you

30:07

want to chuck that in. We also have a lot

30:10

of paranormal shit. So if you want something to replace

30:12

it, maybe something a little bit more cursed, maybe something

30:14

a little bit less cursed if you're in the mood for

30:16

like an ancient scroll or just

30:19

maybe you don't like dolls. Maybe you want a race

30:21

car that turns on in the middle of the night and drives

30:23

around. We got all that shit. So just let us know.

30:26

Yeah, yeah, we're doing a winter package right now

30:28

where where Father Ryan will tell you some stories.

30:31

Yeah, I kind of make it make a whole experience out

30:33

of the whole thing,

30:33

you know. Yeah, I kind of like

30:35

no faff. I really appreciate

30:38

that. Yeah, because the thing is, you only

30:40

have to understand and try

30:42

and make peace with these spirits. If

30:44

you're going to live with them. Yeah. If

30:46

you have no plans on trying to

30:49

coexist with this thing, doesn't matter

30:51

where the story is. Yeah, this little doll

30:53

could be like 100 years ago, I lived in

30:57

this very don't give a shit. Dunk

31:00

its head in holy water, electrocuted

31:02

cook it in the microwave. Yeah, it's done.

31:05

It's burnt. It's gone. This is like anything else

31:07

causing you problems. Yeah. This

31:09

is the kind of pragmatism we've been looking for

31:11

all along. I noticed there was a squirrel

31:14

outside in the tree. We can shoot that if you want.

31:16

Is it causing you problems? It's

31:19

a fixer, a paranormal fixer. Yeah,

31:21

it's like there's a bird that wakes us up in the morning.

31:23

All right. Anything else? I

31:27

don't think that was the right bird. I'll

31:30

keep going all day. I'll keep going all day.

31:32

No, stop, please. You

31:35

make a good point though. There's like a probably whole

31:37

paranormal industry here. You know, here in the UK, we've got

31:40

we buy any car. Yeah, if you've

31:42

got a car that I don't know,

31:45

you transported a dead body in so it's all

31:47

covered in blood. You can call we buy any car

31:50

and they will buy it for granted

31:52

a small sum of money, but it's like we will guarantee

31:55

to take it off your hands. I don't think if it's covered in blood,

31:57

I think that's you make it sound like they'll

31:59

evidence. I don't think that's what

32:02

they're saying. They're saying they'll buy any car. Well,

32:04

you know, I've tried it and you haven't. So,

32:06

uh, They'll

32:08

buy anything you say is a car.

32:12

As long as you have signed a contract saying

32:15

you thought it was a car,

32:16

that dirty shovel or bloody

32:19

rope, it's gone. A bag of marked

32:21

notes, very, very marked notes. Gone.

32:23

Yeah. But Eddler and Warren could do a kind

32:26

of we buy any house, beep beep,

32:28

where you're like my house

32:30

is haunted. I can't handle this.

32:33

I'm willing to sell it for below market

32:35

value.

32:35

And then a bit like a property flipper and

32:38

they're in like, we'll take it off your hands. We'll get rid of everything

32:40

and then we'll sell it. Sell it again. Yeah. Well, correct

32:42

me if I'm wrong, but this is a big thing in

32:44

Japan, right? Is there's a name

32:47

for specific houses where

32:49

might not be haunted, but might be where

32:52

horrible things have happened. Like

32:54

murders or suicides. And they're given

32:56

this name. I'll look it up

32:58

just so we have it on record. But basically

33:01

these houses that something

33:03

horrible has happened in you have special

33:05

like real estate people who deal with

33:08

getting rid of these houses. And they're often

33:10

that much cheaper rates than a regular

33:12

houses. Yeah. I believe it is. I

33:15

believe the property is referred to as a Jiko

33:18

book in or a haunted house

33:20

where apparently the previous occupant

33:23

had died of unnatural causes.

33:27

So, uh, common ways to

33:29

get a property classified as a Jiko

33:31

book in includes suicide, murder,

33:34

fire, or neglect. So

33:37

big range there.

33:38

Uh, cause my apartment has been

33:40

neglected at points over the years, but I wouldn't go

33:42

as far to say it's haunted. I like

33:44

the, this works in Japan because

33:47

as a kind of like deeply historically

33:49

spiritual country with the Shinto

33:51

beliefs, they're kind

33:54

of maybe a bit more in tune with

33:56

the auspice of a house. Um,

33:59

and that it wouldn't be auspice.

33:59

suspicious potentially to move into somewhere

34:02

that has this dark past. You try

34:04

that shit in the Bay Area of

34:06

North America, people will be like,

34:08

I don't give a f***ing to me. I'll

34:11

kill the motherf***er myself in my bare hands if it

34:13

gets me to this house. Here in

34:15

London, I don't think there's no

34:18

reducing a house price on the basis.

34:20

So I don't care how f***ed up the murder suicide

34:22

was that happened inside. We

34:25

will take it. Would you live in a haunted house?

34:29

Like let's say there was some sort

34:29

of horrific murder suicide that

34:32

took place in the building 50 years

34:34

ago. I'm definitely somewhat

34:37

joking. I think it obviously plays

34:39

a factor. But what I will say is

34:42

there's a big difference between that

34:44

horrible event or murder or whatever taking

34:46

place in like a 200 year old

34:48

house with creaky floorboards in the middle of the country.

34:51

There's a big difference between that and the murder happening

34:54

in, let's say, your modern flat

34:56

in London

34:57

where you're not really going to think about

34:59

it as much. It's not going to play in your mind as much. Yeah,

35:01

that's true. I think I would. That's

35:05

what I'm saying. I think I probably

35:07

would. I guess one of these things where it's like if

35:10

I probably would live there for

35:12

a while, I don't know if

35:14

I would buy it and be like, this is going to

35:16

be my family home. Well, and then I'll

35:18

make a life here. This is the problem is like, of

35:21

course, it's not even that the people buying

35:23

it care.

35:24

It's more

35:26

that they're scared that other people will care, right?

35:28

Yeah, because that makes it a bad investment. Yeah,

35:31

it's like they're less scared of like, it's like, I don't

35:33

think a ghost is going to attack me. I just

35:35

think someone else will not buy it because someone died

35:38

here. Yeah, you don't want to just be kind of like sitting

35:40

in your living room with like friends over playing

35:42

Monopoly one night and you're like, fun

35:45

fact,

35:46

the whole family was slaughtered here brutally. It

35:49

wasn't even that long ago. Jordan,

35:51

you go to Pasco, take 200. So

35:55

why are you telling us this? I just want to be fun. Just

35:57

a fun fact. You know who didn't?

35:59

In Pasco the family the family

36:02

the live deer their uh their

36:04

journey around the board was cut short Pretty

36:07

drastically oh man. I

36:09

love monopoly. It's a real cutthroat game. You

36:11

know what else is pretty cut The

36:15

victims of the poor innocent people who used to

36:17

live in this house

36:20

Like all right anyway, so you

36:22

roll to six Yeah, that

36:24

is Park Place and hotels man. You guys are

36:26

bleeding me dry. You know who else shut up Stop

36:30

talking about the murders Damn,

36:33

Alice like you've got a lot of red on this board.

36:36

You know what else had a lot of red? the

36:38

four boards of this building

36:41

Yeah, George. You know it's funny you picked an iron to

36:44

be your piece for this game because that was

36:46

the murder weapon So

36:49

as I said the Warren's packed Annabelle into their

36:51

car finally taking the doll off

36:53

of their hands But while the wrath of

36:55

Annabelle was now pulled from Donna and Angie

36:58

It already found its next victims while

37:01

driving home the power steering

37:03

on the Warren's car failed stalling

37:06

the engine repeatedly Ed

37:08

decides his best to stay off the highway just

37:10

in case Annabelle tries to cause an accident Jesus

37:14

when the young couple reach home Ed pushes

37:16

down on the brakes only to realize

37:18

they ain't working He

37:23

struggled to regain control of the car eventually

37:25

skidding to a stop outside their house It

37:28

isn't long

37:28

before the Warren's realized they may have bitten

37:30

off more than they can chew Within

37:33

days Ed claims that he saw

37:35

the doll hovering in midair Oh

37:38

my god

37:39

The only way that they can stop Annabelle from

37:41

allegedly acting up is by dousing

37:44

her with holy water

37:45

But after weeks of paranormal activity even

37:48

the holy water starts to wear off Eventually

37:51

things got so bad that Ed and Lorraine

37:53

had to call another priest in just

37:55

to come back and smack it around a bit The

37:58

priest examined the doll

37:59

and luckily had some good news. Well,

38:03

Mr. and Mrs. Warren, it may very

38:05

well be a demon, but I don't believe

38:07

it can hurt you. After all, it

38:09

is a doll. Why, it couldn't

38:12

even strangle you with those little hands. Yeah,

38:15

tell that to my mechanic who's fixing

38:17

the cup breaks right now, motherf***er. I

38:19

believe it's nothing more than a nuisance. I

38:22

think you'll find if you ignore it, everything

38:24

will be fine.

38:25

Just minutes after dismissing

38:28

the doll, the priest crashed

38:30

his car. Ha ha ha! He

38:34

didn't die, but he was pretty messed up. Wow.

38:38

If this little f***er is attacking priests,

38:41

it surely has no limits. The

38:43

Warrens have to make sure that this doll

38:46

can't possibly hurt anyone again,

38:49

so they construct a large wooden cabinet

38:52

with a glass door and seal

38:54

Annabelle inside.

38:55

Once completed, Lorraine stuck a note

38:58

on the front of the case that read, Warning,

39:01

positively do not open. You

39:04

mentioned this was at the start of their kind

39:06

of career or towards the start. This

39:08

kind of makes sense. They hadn't maybe quite worked

39:10

out their paranormal archiving

39:13

standards. Yes, you

39:15

know, this isn't, they haven't quite worked out the

39:18

Indiana Jones-style warehouse where they kind of lock

39:20

you in a wooden box. It's true. And

39:22

put you in the middle of a warehouse. Some people might know

39:24

now that the Warrens are actually kind of famous for

39:27

their paranormal exhibition.

39:29

Now they have a lot of artifacts,

39:31

including Annabelle the doll, still

39:34

on display, sealed away in glass cases,

39:37

along with a huge collection of other incredibly

39:40

paranormal artifacts, which we will go on to talk

39:42

about in just a second at

39:43

the end of this podcast. But you're right, this

39:45

could have very well been one of the first to

39:48

kick off the collection. It's like in Transformers,

39:50

you know. The first time they probably stopped Megatron,

39:53

probably just like give him a slap on the wrist and were like,

39:56

naughty boy. Don't do that. Don't do that

39:58

again. And then, you know.

39:59

he destroyed a planet or whatever. You

40:02

know, some f***ed up Transformers stuff.

40:04

And they were like, all right, I'm being serious

40:07

this time. I'm being serious. Oh Megatron, don't do

40:09

it. Like we'll seriously, we'll put you in jail next

40:11

time. Like don't do it bro. And

40:13

by the end they tied, they

40:16

put concrete on his feet and they dropped him to the

40:18

bottom of the Mariana tran, like I said. Yeah.

40:21

They were taking no chances. Next

40:23

time, if he comes back from that shit, they're ejecting

40:26

him into the sun. That's kind of maybe where we're

40:28

at with this little

40:29

doll. We tried slapping it on the

40:32

wrist. We tried the holy water. We tried

40:34

all of this. It cut the brakes to a priest's

40:36

car. It needs to be punished severely.

40:39

I assume this is, you know, being the

40:41

owner of a paranormal object like this is

40:44

sort of like being a parent.

40:46

You know, you have to learn

40:48

to discipline a child

40:51

in a way that

40:53

warrants the proper response, you

40:55

know? Yeah.

40:56

Stay up past their bedtime.

40:59

Hey, now you have to go to bed earlier

41:01

the next day. I don't know. That sounds poetically

41:03

right. If you don't eat your vegetables

41:06

one day, now you got to eat twice as many vegetables the next

41:09

day. That makes sense. You

41:11

don't have children. This is terrible parenting.

41:13

If your child cuts the brakes

41:16

to a priest's car. No, you

41:18

bet he's going to the naughty corner. You sit on the

41:20

naughty step. There ain't enough vegetables in the

41:22

world to fix that kid. I don't

41:24

know what you do, but it's got to be pretty dramatic. Yeah,

41:28

there's no fortnight for a month at that

41:30

point. Yeah, what can you do and say?

41:33

We need the paranormal doll version

41:35

of juvenile detention. It's like you

41:38

deserve to go to prison forever,

41:41

but legally we kind of can't, so we

41:43

need to do a little halfway measure. Yeah,

41:45

yeah. You'll just go to a little prison, which

41:48

I guess is kind of what the Warren's collection is.

41:51

Little prison for paranormal artifacts. And

41:53

as we said, this is where the doll sits

41:56

to this very day inside the Warren's

41:58

Museum of the Occult.

41:59

It's been open to the public for many,

42:02

many years now, and some visitors

42:04

say that they can see Annabelle moving around

42:06

the case, trying to break free. Because

42:09

the Warrens weren't able to get rid of the demon, they've

42:11

just settled for trapping it inside of this

42:14

glass case. There are claims

42:16

that she's taken lives since moving to

42:18

the Warrens' museum. For example,

42:20

a visiting motorcyclist had to be removed

42:23

by stewards when they caught him taunting

42:26

the doll and banging on the glass.

42:29

Allegedly, the same rider crashed his

42:31

bike on the way home from the museum and died.

42:34

Hard to say if he was just mentally unstable

42:36

and unfit to be riding a motorbike.

42:39

Yeah. But

42:41

interesting nonetheless, yes. One cool

42:43

thing is that Annabelle isn't the

42:45

only doll on display at the Warrens'

42:48

place. In fact, you can look up a full

42:50

list of some of the creepiest artifacts that

42:52

they have on display, and there's

42:54

like 10 different dolls that they have. There's

42:57

a Stretch Armstrong that strangled a dude once.

42:59

Stretch Armstrong's already

43:01

pretty paranormal. Because he's already stretching

43:04

more than a doll should.

43:05

Ken, I've got a little list here of some of the

43:07

dolls on display. I thought you could take a look at.

43:11

Do I get to see the doll? Annabelle?

43:15

Yes. No. Why? I

43:17

didn't include any pictures. I'll get you a picture.

43:19

I'll get you a picture. Do you understand the kind of grilling?

43:22

Rurie's pulled out his phone. He's ditched

43:24

the iPad, which is where all the evidence is. Annabelle.

43:27

And he's pulled out his phone. He's like, oh, I guess

43:30

if you want to see this thing. Is it really

43:32

that interesting? I mean, Rurie would be roasting

43:35

my ass over an open fire if

43:37

we'd got to the end of an episode and

43:39

I didn't show him any evidence. OK, here

43:41

you go. Here's the doll. Jesus Christ, it's

43:43

f***ing huge.

43:44

You've never seen it? What?

43:48

Imagine

43:48

I'm like, oh, shit.

43:51

This thing's crazy. We should have looked at this earlier.

43:54

Damn, look at that thing. You really hadn't

43:56

seen it before? I've never seen it. For

43:58

f***'s sake.

43:59

What are we doing here? I'd

44:02

seen pictures of Raggedy Ann

44:04

dolls. I didn't realize that it was

44:06

so large. You're

44:10

like, who's the old broad next to her? That's

44:12

Lorraine Warren. That's a very respected

44:14

paranormal researcher.

44:16

Yeah, they're giant. Yeah, they're quite big. They're

44:18

like half the size of a human body. Yeah,

44:21

it must be pretty heavy. Way too big. Yeah.

44:23

Because in my head, I thought like a foot

44:26

tall, like a little doll, you know? Yeah, totally.

44:28

No, it is. They should have called the police

44:31

on this thing. It's the size of a child. I

44:33

kind of want one for Cora now.

44:36

It's quite like, it is creepy, definitely.

44:39

And it's got kind of old time Victorian clothing,

44:41

but it is kind of cute looking

44:43

as well. It looks like an animal crossing village.

44:46

Yeah, exactly. Got those big eyes. Really

44:48

does, even like the little nose. Yeah. Yeah,

44:51

I did actually look online because I thought

44:53

maybe we could buy one for

44:56

the office and have it like on the podcast.

44:58

Now that we did the Furby's episode, it's fun

45:00

to like buy some silly props to have, see

45:03

if we could maybe turn it evil.

45:05

And you can still get them. I don't

45:07

know if they're in production anymore, but they

45:09

have vintage ones for sale on eBay and

45:11

everything. So maybe for a bonus episode

45:14

or an after party, we'll get an Annabelle, slap

45:17

it around a little bit, dunk its head in water,

45:19

see if we can provoke some spirits

45:21

to come and have at the doll, you know? I don't

45:23

know after this story if I feel comfortable slapping

45:25

around Annabelle. Dude, the craziest

45:28

thing is,

45:29

I mean, so this is a picture of the doll,

45:31

I assume in the Warren's museum. That's

45:34

a real thing, that's a real child. Look

45:38

at it. The spirit is very

45:40

much still locked inside the doll.

45:43

The case is not big enough for the doll. It

45:45

looks like it's grown. I think

45:48

it is,

45:49

what is creepy about it is like, despite

45:52

the features being completely blank and masked,

45:54

the actual proportions

45:56

does look, it looks like a child inside

45:58

a suit. Yeah. I definitely

46:01

should have looked at a picture of this before

46:03

I did the case and show one the kit cuz

46:05

this changes everything Like

46:07

no wonder an evil spirit decided

46:10

to possess this doll.

46:11

It is literally the size of a child Well,

46:14

as I said, there are some other dolls on display

46:17

in the museum. We're gonna show me another evidence

46:19

or anything Or I have pictures of these dolls. Yeah,

46:22

no of the story not

46:24

the other doll So the first all the

46:27

shit that

46:28

Banana build it first all is called

46:30

a blood or shadow doll,

46:33

right the notes She wrote notes handwritten

46:35

notes. They were a race third. They got rid of something

46:38

a testimony from

46:40

So the shadow doll is covered in black

46:43

feathers And according

46:45

to Ed Warren

46:46

this doll can visit you in your dreams. So

46:49

I know we went anything at all from

46:52

Donna Just we kind of we've

46:54

got a few to get here So it's like if we could just

46:57

focus up here, of course the dream doll

46:59

focus on the fucking bird doll Whatever the fuck

47:01

you said a shadow doll. Okay covered

47:03

in feathers It is covered in feathers

47:05

and look you can say what you want about Annabelle

47:08

and the strangling and the scratching

47:11

But uh, she didn't fuck with your dreams

47:14

Right. So yeah, she's kind of chilled

47:16

out respect and respect. She's

47:18

like I'll make your life a nightmare

47:21

So I'll at least keep your dreams pretty sweet.

47:23

Yeah

47:24

So this is a picture of the shadow

47:26

doll Kill that

47:29

That's what? This

47:33

is an ancient goblin it's not a doll

47:35

a doll makes it sound like there's something

47:38

fun about it. It's a toy

47:40

Yeah, this is an ancient goblin at no goblin

47:42

drew it and no point was this

47:45

could it ever have been designed to be a

47:47

child's Toy, it's a mummified goblin.

47:49

It has a horrible face a weird

47:51

little crooked nose and just one

47:53

witch's hand Yeah, I don't know.

47:56

I don't know where this came from Yoda was a Sith

47:58

Lord. That's kind of what

47:59

what that looks like. It looks like if you cooked

48:02

Yoda in the oven. Next

48:04

up is the dark magic doll.

48:07

It hangs in a glass container.

48:09

And apparently this one

48:11

is like a voodoo doll. You create an image

48:13

similar to the person in question

48:15

and hang the doll in an effort

48:18

to make the person sick or

48:20

die.

48:21

Okay, I just feel like we already

48:23

care a lot. We're already pretty emotionally invested

48:25

in the Annabelle story. I don't know if we need to necessarily

48:28

know about the other dolls. This is the

48:30

dark magic doll. Here's a picture I'm showing Kit

48:32

right now. Granted they are, it is kind

48:34

of astonishing how creepy these dolls are.

48:37

I've truly never seen anything like it.

48:40

But. Yeah.

48:42

Because it's pretty remarkable. Because if someone

48:44

says to you like, okay, this

48:46

is a cursed doll. Yeah, you're

48:48

like, okay, so cursed doll, I guess. He has like

48:50

a weird smile, like a little cheeky grin.

48:53

Or maybe one eye is wonky.

48:55

This doll is being hung by its

48:58

neck. Yeah,

49:00

permanently. Its face is

49:03

ice white. Yeah. It's

49:05

terrifying looking. Yeah, it

49:07

looks like human despair locked inside

49:10

a little. I can see that the list

49:12

keeps going by the way. There's more dolls on your list.

49:14

Why? We already care so much

49:16

about Annabelle. They also have

49:19

a clown doll

49:21

and some African fertility dolls.

49:23

We know what dolls are. Like these, we're just

49:26

listing dolls. Has that clown

49:28

doll done anything? Ladies

49:31

and gentlemen, Rory is just presenting me with a JPEG

49:34

of a doll that is a clown.

49:36

And above it, it just says

49:38

clown doll.

49:39

Look into the eyes of that clown doll. Yeah, I

49:41

think it's done something.

49:43

It's clearly done something to end up in

49:45

this museum of evil.

49:48

Look at its eyes. I mean, even the fertility

49:50

dolls, by the sheer fact that

49:53

they're called fertility dolls, we know why they

49:55

were made. They were made because

49:57

of like beliefs to do with religion.

49:59

and fertility. They weren't cursed.

50:03

That's what those are for. I thought

50:05

something else. Okay. No,

50:08

it's fine. So moving on. What did

50:10

you think they were for? I thought. It

50:13

doesn't matter. We can cut it. We can just say

50:15

it because we can cut it afterwards. Just

50:19

I feel like if I say it, even if we

50:21

do cut it, it'll change kind of the trajectory. Come

50:23

on, just say it. Sex dolls.

50:26

I thought you could. They're

50:29

wooden and so tiny. Have sex with the dolls. They're

50:31

so tiny and wooden. You're telling me. You're

50:34

just you're telling me the fertility

50:36

dolls that I ordered. They're this.

50:39

They're not. Yeah, you wanted you wanted

50:41

what? A real doll? No, I just wanted it was

50:44

it was for an episode. It was going to be for an episode.

50:46

It was going to be for an experiment I was doing. They're

50:49

not an experiment. Just the experiment.

50:51

That's not an episode. And episodes of this part of

50:53

my life are experiments that Rory is doing in

50:56

his bedroom. That's not normally

50:58

we present a case. Look, if you couldn't

51:00

tell, things didn't go very well with crystal

51:03

at Christmas time. All right. I didn't

51:05

see any action. I didn't get lucky. I'm

51:07

a little inexperienced. And I thought maybe if

51:09

I bought one of these little sex

51:12

dolls, they're no sex. Yes. So fertility,

51:14

ancient fertility dolls. And

51:16

what do they do? The ancient fertility

51:19

dolls. The thing is, you joke, but

51:21

I'm pretty sure those are also

51:23

called fetishes. What?

51:25

Little like I found this on the web. No, don't

51:27

find for that on the web. We

51:29

found this in your Google search history. Whoa,

51:32

no, no, Siri, Siri, shut up. Shut up. Shut up.

51:36

Oh, those little things are called fetishes. Yeah,

51:39

like little dolls and objects and stuff like that. I only

51:41

realized that when I went to the British Museum not

51:43

that long ago. That's confusing. Yeah.

51:46

I'm looking up the dictionary.

51:47

Here's a PSA.

51:49

Fettish meaning one, a

51:51

form of sexual desire meaning

51:53

two, an inanimate object worshiped

51:56

for magical powers. That's incredibly

51:59

misleading. Those are.

51:59

Two very different things. And

52:02

yet we brought them together here with these little dolls.

52:05

Wait a minute, so it doesn't even have to

52:07

do with sex? Nothing to do with it, no.

52:10

That's wild. Because I was in

52:12

the museum and they had got like a little f***ing... Imagine

52:15

it was a little

52:16

wooden tiger or something and they'd be like, yeah, here's

52:18

an ancient East African

52:20

fetish. You're like, people used to bang

52:23

this thing? This

52:25

made dudes horny? Yeah, people were horny for

52:28

tigers? This is f***ed, bro. Yes,

52:31

yeah, there you go. The English language, mysterious.

52:35

This is us in the British Museum.

52:37

The guide is just like... And as you can see over here,

52:39

we also have some ancient

52:42

fertility dolls. Any questions?

52:45

My hand just goes straight up. Put your hand

52:47

back down. You've

52:49

said quite enough on today's tour. Where do you put

52:51

your... Alright.

52:54

Well, that just about rounds up our story

52:56

today into the investigation of

52:59

Annabelle, the real cursed

53:02

doll. Kit, I know this

53:04

is a bit of a weird one today. It's more of a retelling

53:07

of a story. But the strangest

53:09

part about it is, while the case... Yes,

53:12

look, it's very silly. It's a cursed doll that's running

53:14

around a house,

53:15

biting people and scratching people. Paranormal

53:19

investigators like the Warrens take

53:21

this shit extremely seriously to

53:24

the point where it is one of the most famous

53:26

objects in their museum of the occult.

53:29

You know, this isn't just some Reddit story

53:32

about furbies talking when the batteries are

53:34

out. This is one of the most famous

53:37

paranormal stories involving a possessed

53:40

object. Yeah, you're right. The Ed and

53:42

Lorraine Warren take it super seriously.

53:45

And I would ask that Rory takes me seriously. Which

53:48

I do, which I do and I have. Because we sat here for one

53:50

hour and you've told me a fairy tale

53:53

about a dolly. It's a... it's

53:55

quite a big doll, quite a large doll. I wouldn't say

53:57

dolly. Then you had never even...

53:59

I haven't seen until 60 seconds ago when

54:02

I asked what it looked like. Well, don't keep saying

54:04

that because I am going to cut that moment from

54:06

the podcast because it makes me look like I'm a bad

54:08

investigator. So I

54:10

obviously, I obviously look, I was obviously

54:12

so wrapped up in this story, getting

54:15

all the little details, right? Getting all the little moments

54:18

that

54:18

I forgot to look at the doll. Yeah, sure. Sue

54:21

me.

54:22

You know, I forgot to do the bare minimum

54:24

amount of research that it takes to talk

54:26

about the subject. Look,

54:28

I know that this is tough because

54:31

sure, I am shocked and appalled and gold. I'm

54:33

going to say sometimes the president

54:35

of the United States is so busy

54:38

fighting terrorists and

54:40

eating apple pies that he just

54:43

sometimes misses the Fourth of July because

54:45

he's so busy being the president and

54:47

getting shit done

54:48

that he misses the basic stuff. All

54:50

right. Ironically, that is absolutely

54:53

true of Joseph Biden. He forgets

54:55

a lot of things. Sometimes

54:58

he forgets how to pronounce his own name. But

55:01

look, despite there being absolutely

55:03

no evidence aside from eyewitness testimony, of

55:06

which there is quite a lot,

55:07

as you say, people do take it seriously. A

55:09

number of people in this case have taken it seriously. Yeah,

55:11

very famous paranormal investigators. People that make

55:14

a lot of money off taking it seriously. They

55:16

literally charge people to see Annabelle in

55:18

a glass case. Yeah. Which is,

55:20

you know, really fun. And I don't I don't hate

55:22

on them for doing. But, you know, it is something

55:24

we talk about in TPL is people,

55:26

you know, the Warrens, you

55:29

know, that's their business, is making

55:31

a kind of traveling freak show of all

55:33

these paranormal artifacts, which is kind of interesting

55:35

and worth talking about. Yeah. No, you

55:37

make a really good point. It's the question we always have

55:39

to come up against at the end of the podcast,

55:42

which is is there any financial

55:44

gain to be had by the individuals in

55:46

the story

55:47

for saying that this did happen

55:50

or even dramatizing certain

55:52

events? And for the Warrens,

55:55

absolutely. Maybe not for Donna and

55:57

Angie. No, they didn't seem to get much out.

55:59

of it doesn't seem like they sold a book or

56:02

even wanted to be involved anymore in this

56:05

case. So that's a little bit more of a strange

56:08

one to wrap up. But

56:10

you're right.

56:11

You're right. It makes sense that the Warrens would say

56:13

that this is truly the most

56:15

cursed evil doll in existence

56:17

because they want people to come look at the Museum of the Occult.

56:20

And the story, these stories, you know, self perpetuate

56:23

because even this episode we're hosting

56:25

right now, this is going to send people

56:28

to their museum. Probably.

56:31

They are going to make cash dollars, dollar

56:33

bucks off of this, of us just

56:35

talking about it right now. So it kind of tells

56:37

you something.

56:38

But Rory, you are

56:41

the lead investigator. What do you think? I

56:43

think it's a great story. I think it's really fun.

56:45

It's cool to look into this case

56:47

that inspired the movie,

56:50

even though I haven't seen the movie. I've

56:52

heard it's very good and very cool.

56:54

We're basically talking about one of the original cursed

56:56

dolls. Yeah, actually, the movie I funny.

56:59

I think I've seen all the other conjuring movies. I

57:01

don't think I've seen that one. Yeah, with the non. I like

57:03

them. They're good fun. Yeah, they're

57:05

a blast. If you like horror movies, definitely go check them out. But I

57:07

think if we're going to take this case

57:10

seriously today, there is just

57:12

not enough evidence to prove

57:14

that this doll really is cursed

57:17

or possessed. This all took place in the 70s.

57:20

There's video cameras, home

57:22

video cameras. They'd be hard to come

57:25

by, maybe a little expensive, but there

57:27

is no reason why there shouldn't

57:29

be more evidence of this doll. And it's paranormal.

57:31

Because by all accounts, she was break dancing

57:34

in the living room every 90 seconds. She had fat moves

57:36

and street dance grooves. Yeah, she really

57:38

did. It wasn't once

57:41

when the when the full moon comes out,

57:43

she might wiggle. She

57:45

was bleeding, running around. Yeah.

57:48

And I mean, Ed Warren said at one point she was

57:50

levitating in the air. Hey, even the Bigfoot

57:53

crowd, even they've got some shaky photographs

57:55

to show us. It's true. So

57:57

from me this week, it's going to be a no.

57:59

It's a no. Damn!

58:02

Well thank you so much for sending

58:04

in that suggestion and thank you to Amy

58:07

Grisdell for researching this case and Philip

58:09

Shacklady for editing.

58:11

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58:16

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58:18

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58:20

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Please want to do it though. You

58:58

know sometimes it's just good to like shake

59:01

things up and I think like we've been doing this for a really

59:03

long time. All fair it is good. So

59:07

just like not what we're recording. If every

59:09

week we're like check out patreon what

59:11

if one week we're like don't check out patreon.

59:14

How about this week we give you guys money just

59:17

to flip the script. What

59:20

if I wear a shoe on my head? What

59:23

if I eat water? No I

59:26

to be fair I guess you're right because I do

59:28

want to shake things up but to be fair the

59:30

after parties have been

59:32

excellent recently. They've been fantastic. They've

59:34

been so good. The after parties if

59:36

you don't know is the behind the scenes weekly

59:39

episode that goes out where Kit and I fill you

59:41

in on everything in the TPL world

59:43

and in fact just to give you a little taste

59:45

of what those after parties are like

59:47

why not play a clip right now from one

59:50

of our recent episodes. Did

59:52

you ever see when you were growing up did you ever

59:54

see a little animated movie called The

59:56

Prince of Egypt? Sure. I saw

59:58

that movie when I was way

59:59

young because I think my parents were

1:00:02

like hey the kids are gonna love this let's go

1:00:04

watch the Prince of

1:00:06

Egypt it's a Bible cartoon probably didn't

1:00:08

swear you probably didn't

1:00:11

it uh it's there's there's

1:00:13

wrath

1:00:14

the wrath of the Lord comes

1:00:17

in kind of in that last quarter

1:00:19

and it's it's brutal

1:00:21

cuz cuz some of it is the fun shit where it's

1:00:23

like hey we're gonna make a bunch of frogs come and

1:00:26

oh locusts are gonna eat all your

1:00:28

crops oh and then at the end he

1:00:30

goes I'm gonna kill your kids I'm

1:00:32

gonna kill the children

1:00:35

unless you mark your door with goat

1:00:37

blood I'm gonna kill you which is such

1:00:40

a messed up loophole

1:00:42

like why create a loophole at all

1:00:44

yeah I don't really understand because there was probably

1:00:46

a bunch of wild theories going around where

1:00:49

some dudes probably like I heard if you drink

1:00:51

milk before bed he will save you

1:00:53

yeah it's like you know I was like I don't

1:00:55

know I'm gonna trust Moses cuz he's kind of the one

1:00:57

listening when God was talking

1:01:00

and so I'm just gonna kind of improvise

1:01:02

and hopefully he'll see that I'm trying kind of hard

1:01:05

it's also kind of a way

1:01:07

to teach a lesson kids the one

1:01:09

people who didn't do anything

1:01:12

was the kids they

1:01:14

are the innocent they were the few without sin

1:01:17

presumably um so you

1:01:19

know

1:01:19

far be it for me to question his ways

1:01:22

I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to do that not cool

1:01:24

me questioning no me question in

1:01:26

the Lord just thinking about it but

1:01:28

needless to say a little little

1:01:30

tyke Rory little nugget Rory

1:01:33

had a few questions for mama powers

1:01:35

in the back of the car on the way home yeah I think

1:01:38

she thought we were kind of be going home being

1:01:40

like

1:01:41

well Rory he truly is powerful

1:01:45

like that's one way to word it yeah

1:01:47

oh yeah we have any paint at home

1:01:49

though because just just to be on the

1:01:51

safe side I know it's been a couple thousand years

1:01:54

since he pulled that little trick but I just

1:01:56

want to really make sure let's

1:01:58

just kill a couple lambs to be

1:01:59

shirt.

1:02:03

There you go. You know what? It's great. It's

1:02:05

good, isn't it? Yeah. We've got

1:02:07

incredible raffles every month. We've got bonus

1:02:10

episodes every single month and those after parties every

1:02:12

damn week. It really is. And how much does

1:02:14

it cost, Kit? As little as five

1:02:17

dollar bucks. F*** off. That's insane.

1:02:19

That's such little money in this economy

1:02:21

with inflation. Five bucks. That's that's

1:02:23

crazy. And it's been like that for years.

1:02:26

So technically we've lost money every single

1:02:28

year because

1:02:29

within inflation we haven't up

1:02:31

the price in a really long time. So it's someone

1:02:34

actually said this the other day, right? Because here in the

1:02:36

UK, the Patreon is it works out like I don't

1:02:38

know, like thanks to Liz Truss, it works

1:02:40

out like four pound fifty or something. I don't know. Right.

1:02:43

And I heard someone say this at a comedy show the other day

1:02:45

that I paid a fiver in and they were

1:02:47

like, hey, fun fact, they've been doing the

1:02:50

comedy show for as long as we've been doing the podcast. They were like, we

1:02:52

started this like years ago. When we started this show,

1:02:54

five pound used to get you six tins

1:02:56

of beans.

1:02:57

Now only gets you three tins of beans. Think

1:02:59

about that. Wow.

1:03:01

Thanks for listening

1:03:04

this week, everyone. I really don't know what to do with

1:03:06

that information. I

1:03:08

thought there was going to be more of a point there. It's

1:03:11

just beans. I get less beans. I'm

1:03:13

making your point, which is that the price

1:03:15

has stayed the same, but you

1:03:18

get way more for your money. Yeah, I

1:03:20

think I kind of I don't know why we needed the bean analogy

1:03:22

to kind of hammer that home. It was kind of like

1:03:25

I think I kind of said exactly what. Yeah,

1:03:27

that was kind of done. All right. All

1:03:29

right. You know, it's really

1:03:31

go to the podcast. You had once bought 10 cans

1:03:35

of beans and then now spent the same amount

1:03:37

of money

1:03:37

on the same amount

1:03:39

of beans. It'd be way more money

1:03:42

because the price of beans. I so regret making

1:03:44

this analogy to an American audience

1:03:46

because they're like, those really are obsessed with beans.

1:03:49

Why do they love beans so much?

1:03:50

You're like, all right, sorry, this isn't working. This isn't

1:03:52

working. Let me try a new new analogy. So

1:03:55

imagine if one bean was a pound

1:03:58

and you had a hundred beans in your.

1:04:00

wallet. Did you see the giant bean by the

1:04:02

way? Yeah the one big bean. We'll get into

1:04:04

this in the after party probably but someone made a giant

1:04:06

bean. Yeah it was a Heinz baked bean.

1:04:11

And it was the size of a f***ing dinner

1:04:13

plate. The tin that had one bean

1:04:15

in it and just the bean juice

1:04:18

which is so f***ing nasty.

1:04:21

Can you imagine just knife and fork

1:04:23

tucking into a bean.

1:04:25

One huge bean. It's

1:04:28

disgusting. Check

1:04:30

out the Patreon. You're gonna love it. Patreon.com

1:04:32

forward slash this paranormal life. And one other thing

1:04:34

that we do, one other tier we have on Patreon

1:04:37

is the shout out tier. Where at the end of the episode

1:04:40

you get your name shouted out at the end of

1:04:42

the podcast. And that's what we're gonna do right

1:04:44

now. Thanks so much to Paige Kolakowski.

1:04:47

Paige

1:04:47

Free Kolakowski.

1:04:49

A vampire, a Greek

1:04:52

vampire who listens to our podcast. That

1:04:54

is fantastic. Well hey speaking of beans.

1:04:57

If you're out doing a little harvest there bud.

1:05:00

Why don't you pick us up a couple

1:05:02

for the commune. We are running low

1:05:04

on supplies and food and medicine and

1:05:06

water. So anything you can harvest

1:05:09

would be just be great. Even a f***ing

1:05:11

twig at this point Paige. Thank

1:05:13

you to Mark and Max Wallace. Mark

1:05:16

and Max or as I like to call them M and

1:05:18

M. Because they can spit.

1:05:21

They can rap. No they can spit really

1:05:23

far. They can't rap for shit.

1:05:25

I saw them try it one time. It was embarrassing. But

1:05:27

no they can spit really far. Right and it's

1:05:29

like spitting an M and M out of their mouth.

1:05:32

So that's why we call them that. It's nothing to do with

1:05:34

the rapper at all. Thanks also

1:05:36

to Amir Pollat. You know I

1:05:39

see a lot of myself in Amir.

1:05:42

What like? It's a joke. Huh?

1:05:45

I see a lot of myself in Amir. So

1:05:47

like do you mean. What are you getting at?

1:05:51

I see a lot of myself in Amir. Dude

1:05:54

stop saying the same. Do you know how the podcast works? You can't just keep

1:05:56

saying the same thing over and over and over. Amir. This is like bad podcasting.

1:05:58

Come on we need to go.

1:05:59

Like, like, Amir. Yeah, I know Amir

1:06:02

Paula. Thank you Amir for being

1:06:04

a patron. Like say something else. I see a lot of

1:06:06

myself in him. Amir, like it's Amir. Are

1:06:09

you hard of hearing? Are you hard of hearing bro? I'm gonna have to cut

1:06:11

all of this. Let's just move on. Let's just move on.

1:06:14

Thanks also to Luke Coet. Luke,

1:06:17

get your Coet. Because

1:06:19

you've pulled a giant bean.

1:06:22

What? Out of a cow. You've

1:06:25

won the only, you've

1:06:28

been drawn in the commune raffle to

1:06:30

eat the only bean we have.

1:06:33

Right. And it's not a novelty

1:06:35

size bean. It's a regular size

1:06:37

bean. It was all we had from the harvest.

1:06:40

The crops went bad. So

1:06:43

you get the bean this week. Congratulations.

1:06:46

Thank you to everyone that supports us

1:06:49

on Patreon. Honestly, we couldn't do it without your

1:06:51

support. So if you want some extra bonus

1:06:53

content and some really cool goodies, head

1:06:55

on over to patreon.com forward slash

1:06:58

this paranormal life. Guys,

1:07:01

we love you. Thanks for joining us. We hope you

1:07:03

enjoy this week's episode. Any

1:07:05

farewell messages Kit to the commune before

1:07:07

we go? No, like pressure about

1:07:10

the whole Patreon thing. I'm honestly 50 50 about it.

1:07:12

Even after that. No, no, no, we weren't. We didn't put

1:07:14

on the pressure to go.

1:07:16

Check it out or like, yeah. Yeah.

1:07:19

There's lots of great patrons out there as well. And like, not

1:07:21

just ours. So we're broke. We're

1:07:23

broke. So we need to make sure

1:07:25

that we do have people coming. Yeah.

1:07:27

All right. We're going to walk back a lot of what

1:07:30

I said then. Yeah. Really? We're like, we

1:07:32

don't have a lot of cash. Nothing. We've got nothing left. I couldn't,

1:07:34

I couldn't afford.

1:07:34

Why did you let me say all that shit? You

1:07:37

think, you think I decided, Oh, I actually

1:07:39

decided not to buy the raggedy Ann doll for the

1:07:41

podcast. We couldn't, my card

1:07:44

bounced. You're not wearing shoes. I only

1:07:46

just noticed. I had to sell them. Sorry.

1:07:48

We're getting to say again. Anyway, thank

1:07:50

you for listening. We do need

1:07:52

to talk financials. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Head

1:07:55

on over to patreon.com boardside. Just paranormal

1:07:57

life and help me get another pair

1:07:59

of shoes.

1:07:59

Yeah, no, we can't make it sad. Make

1:08:02

it fun, though. My feet hurts. It's lots of fun. No. My

1:08:04

feet are bleeding. No, no, no, no. They're not bleeding.

1:08:06

I need shoes. No. Socks optional.

1:08:08

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