As we wind down the year which is 2020, I decided to invite some previous guests on the show to talk about fatherhood. Jan Zabawski, a podcaster and educator, together with my good friend Nurse L.J La Grange, discuss what its like to be a father. We talk about expectations, realities and struggles  as a parent and how we navigate through this all while being the best partner we can be. A very fun, lighthearted and interesting conversation with the boys!   Malo Aupito.