Tim, Ian, Lydia, and Cassandra look at the recent story of an anarchist who was involved with a group that sought to kidnap and possibly even murder the governor of Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer and what it means that people are so willing to go to such lengths in a time of heightened political stress. Conversation ensues about the pending civil war, what it means to be an anarchist, and cults (and whether the left is one).Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate)Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices