This episode features a TOA17 fireside chat between Branden Spikes, former CIO of SpaceX and founder of Spikes Security, and Ryan Heath, Senior EU editor of Politico. Branden and Ryan discuss what Branden learned working alongside Elon Musk for over 10 years. Plus, they delve into Branden’s expectations on the future of technology, security and space travel. Hosts Niko Woischnik and Danielle Lemieux comment on Branden’s insights into singularity, living on Mars and best practices for running a company.