In 2017, Pennywise – a name synonymous with fear, clowns, and fiscal responsibility – returned to the big screen for the first time since 1990. Earning over $700 million at the box office, it quickly became the highest-grossing horror film of all time. In 2019, the terror returns, as director Andy Muschietti brings us back for Chapter Two. But compared to the novel, how do these films bring Stephen King’s terrifying vision to life? Why has It become such an international sensation? Where does Pennywise sit in the canon of monstrous icons? Who was the better Pennywise? What does this mean for the future of horror? Join Jack and Alex as they float across the Atlantic to the town of Derry, spotting turtles and sewage, and discuss the raw boundlessness of It and the human imagination. Warning: As always, this episode contains spoilers.