JoJo sits down with John Baldwin, formerly of Wild Moccasins, at Walter's in Houston. They review the timeline of knowing each other and catch up on the Houston music scene, and talk quitting bands, finding success in self-contained creative careers, and the homogenization of American cities. See if you can catch when JoJo accidentally calls Houston "Dallas," as he tends to do.

Intro and outro music is "Full-time Fetish" by Wild Moccasins from the album "88 92."