Special thanks to Roisin for commissioning this episode! You can find out more about commissions on our Patreon.

In which two Star Trek fans -- one casual, one Deep -- reckon with a Star Trek movie made for people who hate Star Trek and pay homage to all the good fanwork this movie spawned before digging into the messy postmortem of the project itself.

CONTENT WARNING for discussion of genocide, homophobia, and misogyny.

Star Trek by Apple (the Dyson hand dryer shot): https://vraik.tumblr.com/post/632060689598562304/star-trek-2009-looked-like-this

Choice AMVsTik Tok: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZWaWrvJ7nAHurt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeX-cXtmxAsSo Close: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhCVMD5j0uY

1:00 Trek History 12:00 JJ Abrams, Avowed Trek Hater15:30 The AU Angle22:00 Our nuCast30:30 Enterprise by Apple35:00 Insert Emotions Here43:00 About Vulcan 48:00 Compliment Sandwich

Say hi to the team on twitter: @dorothynotgale, @writervrai

Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet.

Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures

Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!