Inspired by her immensely popular newsletter, author Anne Helen Petersen turns her attention to the wild world of work in Work Appropriate. Featuring guest appearances by the smartest people Anne knows - they have real jobs, we promise - the sh

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Introducing Imani State of Mind: REALities with grief

Aug 26th, 2022 53m 5s

Grief…it’s the one thing we all will experience in our lifetime. The ladies of Imani State of Mind discuss the effects grief can have on your everyday life and how to live a healthy life while living with grief.

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Introducing Dare We Say

Aug 11th, 2022 3m 18s

Join Josie Totah, Alycia Pascual Peña, and Yasmine Hamady – three young actresses, disruptors, and best friends as they navigate the issues that affect our lives; from hookup culture and social media to structural racism and LGBTQ+ rights. They

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Jesus Christ, Social Justice Star!

Dec 17th, 2021 28m 36s

Happy holidays! To celebrate the ~festive season~, we thought we'd release a fan-favorite: Phill's conversation with Brittany Packnett Cunningham about Jesus. Yes, that Jesus!As appealing as hunky blondes can be, Phill isn’t interested in worsh

Recommitment (with Doctor Darien)

Dec 10th, 2021 57m 42s

On the final episode of this season of Unholier Than Thou, we end where it all began. On the first episode, Phill sat down with his fiancé, Darien, about being a healthcare worker during the first wave of covid. Darien is back, covid is still h

Reunion (with Bambi)

Dec 3rd, 2021 47m 43s

This week, Phill is joined by Bambi, who helped him come out of the closet many moons ago in a magical land called gay.com. They talk about what it's like growing up the black sheep, finding acceptance and love in the arms of strangers, and wha

Restitution (with Sarah Pearson)

Nov 26th, 2021 43m 6s

This week, Phill is joined by his classmate, Sarah Pearson, who works fighting clergy abuse. She and Phill discuss how high up the chain coverup efforts go, how predatory priests are often relocated into communities of color, and what justice f

Recovery

Nov 19th, 2021 1h 24m

Alcohol consumption increased 23% during the pandemic, particularly among women and those who live alone. People are cut off from their support systems, and many have lost their income. Without social and financial resources, staying in recover

Revisiting (with Reza Aslan)

Nov 12th, 2021 53m 48s

This week, Phill is joined by author Reza Aslan to revisit the early aughts in the American imagination. In the wake of America's withdrawal from Afghanistan, how do notions of American exceptionalism hold up? Reza and Phill discuss how Christi

Redeemability

Nov 5th, 2021 59m 30s

And now for something a little different. This week, Phill is joined by a panel of great thinkers, writers, and theologians to tackle a big question: What role does Christianity have in an increasingly secular America? Do we need it? Does it le

Reframing (with Chris Stedman)

Oct 29th, 2021 52m 29s

Content warning: This episode contains discussions of suicideHave you heard the one where the atheist walks into the divinity school? Oh, it’s not a joke, it’s the lived experience of humanist chaplain Chris Stedman. Phill and Chris talk about

Re-entry (with Michael Arceneaux and Aminatou Sow)

Oct 22nd, 2021 50m 38s

Welcome to covid’s Groundhog Day. Every day’s the same and we constantly have six weeks to go before it’s over. But school’s open, traffic is back, and it’s time to start thinking about what the world looks like on the other side. Here to talk

Redefinition (with Michelle Williams)

Oct 15th, 2021 48m 1s

Phill was always bound to interview Michelle Williams. You could call it fate, but we prefer DESTINY, child. The Gospel Girl talks to Phill about the connections between mental health and faith, how god lives in the high notes, and what to do w

Resurrection (with Samhita Mukhopadhyay)

Oct 8th, 2021 52m 46s

In the inaugural episode of our resurrected show, Phill talks to one of his favorite people in the world: Samhita Mukhopadhyay. Samhita made some big changes during covid (like a lot of us). As Editor in Chief of Teen Vogue, she was at the heig

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Trailer: Season 2 - Resurrection

Oct 1st, 2021 1m 26s

Someone must have moved a boulder out of the way, because Unholier Than Thou is back from the dead, baby! And we’re celebrating our resurrection with stories about yours. New jobs, new loves, new mistakes, new realizations, new challenges, new

Mother Mary, a Virgin who can't drive

Dec 25th, 2020 29m 41s

Remember that time Joe Jonas had a Purity Ring and then…didn’t? That’s the Virgin Mary’s fault. Sort of. The most famous woman in all of Christianity is a virgin — or is she? Phill is joined by feminist theologian Meggan Watterson for a chat on

Jesus Christ, Social Justice Star!

Dec 18th, 2020 30m 58s

As appealing as hunky blondes can be, Phill isn’t interested in worshipping one (well, at least not as the son of God). There's a whole lot of myths about Jesus—and then there's who the Bible ACTUALLY says he was. And turns out, he's kind of a

The magic of Judaism

Dec 11th, 2020 38m 45s

It's Hanukkah, listeners, and you're going to plotz when you see this week's guests. First, Phill shmoozes with author, icon, and national treasure Alice Hoffman about the role of Jewish folklore in her work, the resilience of women, and the po

The military is watching you pray

Dec 4th, 2020 41m 40s

The Pope wants you to stay home, but Amy Coney Barrett wants to see your ass in church. We check in with Dan Mach, director of the ACLU Program on Freedom of Religion and Belief, on what the most recent SCOTUS hearing really means about "religi

God and...CHANEL?

Nov 27th, 2020 37m 12s

Now that you're stuffed with stuffing, it’s time to go shopping. Psychology professor Matt Rossano joins to argue that consumerism is filling the hole left vacant by religious rituals. Do you buy it? (What if it's 50% off?) Then, comedian Bryan

Thanks, but no thanks

Nov 20th, 2020 36m 11s

Our national revisionist-history holiday is upon us, so Phill has a special guest at his Thanksgiving table. Kaitlin Curtice is a citizen of the Potawatomi Nation and also (wait for it) a Christian. She and Phill talk about balancing conflictin

Giving Grace and Buying Guns

Nov 13th, 2020 47m 52s

Now that the facism is ebbing, should the apologies be flowing? That's what Phill is hoping to glean from Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg. She walks us through the process of repentance and if you're required to forgive the MAGA hat wearers in your life

Screw you, Mercury

Nov 6th, 2020 37m 19s

This week, Phill is putting his phone down and looking up to the stars. First, he welcomes ABC News anchor and Ten Percent Happier founder Dan Harris to talk about how to develop mindfulness outside of an oppressive news cycle. After an on-air

The Pope's Big Gay Surprise

Oct 30th, 2020 39m 52s

This week we’re looking at the church, and more specifically, who’s welcome inside. First, Phill chats with Gerald Posner, a journalist and Vatican expert, about Pope Francis' widely praised but incredibly vague comments surrounding civil union

The REAL Hocus Pocus

Oct 23rd, 2020 47m 36s

This week, we’re turning off the news and picking up our brooms. Witches are all around us, and always have been, so Phil decides to debunk some of the black magic around them. First, he speaks to Sabina Magliocco, an expert in witchcraft and f