In this episode, George and Sarah speak to Rob Hopkins, author of the book From What Is to What If: Unleashing the power of imagination to create the future we want. Rob is well known for his work as co-founder of the Transition Network and many other related initiatives. His latest book is strongly linked to our ability to solve the climate crisis and is a call to action to reclaim and unleash our collective imagination, told through the stories of individuals and communities around the world who are doing it now. In this conversation we hear all about why he wrote it and what he found along the way.

Find out more:- Rob's podcast From What If to What Next - https://www.robhopkins.net/podcast/- From What is to What If - https://www.chelseagreen.com/product/from-what-is-to-what-if/- Untitled project - https://untitled.community

Also listen to:- Episode 1.3 - Just Build It