For most of us, when we think sustainability, our minds go to the environment. In fact, your mind might go to one specific sector -- oil and gas. But there's more to sustainability, and ESG, than those things. In today's episode, we're talking to Kris Kolenc, an ESG professional who specializes in commercial real estate. In 2021, Corporate Knights named Kris a Top 30 Under 30 Sustainability Leader, and he joins us to explore the challenges and opportunities that come with real estate. How can today's investments make tomorrow's buildings better? And how can we all contribute?

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