We’ve come so far, and got so far, but in the end…it was really, really far. I don’t have a head for lyrics.

We look forward, I talk a bit about ruts versus grooves and Derek speculates on Season Five.

We’re considering a number of changes for when we get back from the hiatus. I’m going to be studying the production stuff more thoroughly than I have been. I’ll be digging a bit deeper on guest stars, and I’ll try to come up with a few more format-disrupting ideas to mix things up.

I think we’ve got a small, but dedicated fan base. Are there any ideas you all have? I’m wide open for pitches. Contact me here, on my twitter @VanVelding, or on any other platform you can find me.

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