Paul Gibbons is a fellow podcaster using science and philosophy to further his audience’s knowledge. He’s opinionated and very secure in his beliefs, but that doesn’t mean he’s not open-minded. He’s willing to look at the facts and change his opinion when required. We talked about why media figures on the right succeed while those on the left fail. As I stated, “It’s not the message, it’s the messenger.” People connect with their favorite media figures and may or may not buy into their message. Paul, unlike most of his political grouping, acknowledges that Donald Trump is a genius of messaging and connecting with his followers. We could all learn a lot from POTUS 45 in that regard.