The first half of this conversation can be summed up as: rich people have a bad rap, so lots of rich people like to pretend to be middle class. This is such a difficult problem to care about that I was surprised that the guest had not only done her thesis on it, she had gone on to write a book about it.
As I was about to bail, the conversation took a turn and got a little more interesting. It turns out, some wealthy people feel so bad about being wealthy that they are giving away some of their wealth in a way that might change our current systems of inequality. Spoiler alert: not that much money (they are still wealthy), and the wealth gap continues to widen.
1% problems are rough, I guess.