Philippe Sands, author of East West Street and The Ratline, joins Al and James to discuss the extraordinary war time stories he unearthed in his research. In this first episode he talks about Hans Frank, the Nazi ruler of Poland, and Frank’s son Niklas, who once said: “I don’t agree with the death penalty, except for my father.”https://www.waterstones.com/book/the-ratline/philippe-sands/2928377034016Join the We Have Ways members’ club now for £5 a month using the link below:Patreon.com/wehavewaysA Goalhanger Films productionProduced by Joey McCarthyExec Producer Tony PastorTwitter: #WeHaveWays@WeHaveWaysPodEmail: [email protected] on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices