Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus.  For our third season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives.

This week, we got to ride a rollercoaster of emotions with Greg Saunier of Deerhoof. From learning that his music has inspired both romances and break ups to navigating life in an ever transforming band, Greg spent the last few decades collaborating with everyone from his bandmates to musicians around the world to Justin Theroux on his journey to create inspiringly delightful soundscapes. As we approach a critical election in the United States, Greg urges us all to lean into the power of transformation and social engagement as we are all navigating the wondrously strange world of 2020.

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