Jana meets and has a fascinating conversation with writer and all-around wonderful woman, Ramou Sarr. The two discuss "grind culture" in writing and comedy, they chat about racism within the family and Ramou shares her experience with and writing about depression. Follow Ramou Sarr on Twitter @Ramou and on IG @ramousarr.  Follow @womanofsizepod on the socials. Read extended show notes at womanofsize.com.

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