In Matthew McConaughey's famous Oscar acceptance speech, he mentioned that you need 3 things.... Someone to look up to, Something to look forward to, and A Hero to chase.

In my world, I have a friend that delivers me all 3 of those requirements in one human. He is a role model in both my personal and professional life, I look forward to every time I am in the presence of him and his incredible wife Alison and damn I wish I could catch up with him.

The man is a living legend and I was tempted to speak with him about a word that included the letters "UN".... Why? you may be thinking.... Well Scott and Alison are the creators of Unmarketing, Unselling, Unbranding, and the brilliant Unpodcast. So instead of talking about any of the UNbelievable obvious words, or reaching for the comedic "manbun" option, instead....

Scott Stratten shares his insight into the word "Speaking." Listen in on our conversation and enjoy being a fly on the wall to our discussion.

Scott and Allison are worth looking into and a great place to start is www.unmarketing.com As always - you can find me at www.philmjones.com