My guest is Kate Rolfe. Kate is founder of The Revels Office which is a cultural events consultancy and she helps arts organisations generate new revenue and through that expose organisations to different cultural experiences and reach new audiences.

She’s done some wonderful creative projects like transforming the National Gallery into a cinema as part of a sponsorship with beer brand Leffe, setting up the 'most popular event of all time’ with Time Out at the Natural History Museum and running a star-studded event at Buckingham Palace on behalf of the Royal Academy of Dramatic Art. 

“I think a lot of businesses are trying to move to a place where you don’t have to force people to be immediate and to make strong firm definite decisions straight away but actually there’s a level of creativity and time to think — I think a lot of that might have come from the creative industries… it’s bound to be a more peaceful way of working, it’s just more collaborative and calm but still effective. It’s not about wasting time — it’s about using time in the right way and using conversations in the right way.”

This was a really delightful conversation about the mechanics of conversations where Kate shares her techniques for keeping a conversation moving forward and creating deeper connections. It’s very human, natural and speaks to her desire for meaningful connections.

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