Jon and Justin are hunkered down, and reeling from COVID-19:

• This is moving fast, so this podcast might already be out-of-date.
• Difference between the restrictions in Chicago and Vernon.
• "It's hard to focus on Transistor and write any code."
• "There are all these people out there suffering, it's hard to know what to do."
• "You see these effects rippling through society, and then rippling towards you."
• 7:50 – "It'd be nice to donate to everyone, but you just can't."
• 8:40 – It's a multidimensional difficulty for businesses.
• 9:15 – The tools for small shops are still not very good (especially the UX).
• Justin's tweet about Square
• 10:14 – DNS is still the most difficult thing.
• 11:00 – "These people are scrambling to save their businesses."
• Ivy and Dan Meehan’s podcast, Local
• When did you start taking this seriously? On the Not Overthinking podcast
• What makes a business recession-proof?
• Henry Mintzberg: The Three Pillars for rebalancing society
• Interview with Henry Mintzberg
• Are we going to band together, and fight this together?
• MegaMaker Slack

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