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I'm going to be honest, and I
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was annoyed, upset
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with your family recently
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when in Philadelphia.
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It's one thing to vote
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for a different candidate. It's another thing for the 15 people
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in the Kennedy
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family to stand on the stage at a
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rally for Joe Biden when they know that- Six.
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Six. It was only six. For
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a huge portion, big names, people that
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mean something in your life from day
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one, to stand on that stage publicly
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and endorse Joe Biden
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instead of you.
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Even if they were going
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to vote for Joe Biden, to go
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to those lengths to support him,
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you've said, okay, I love my family, we all have
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different politics, we all have different opinions. I
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believe you. Was there not a part of
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you that thought, what the heck?
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Why? Why as my family members go
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to that level to
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say, no, I am against my brother,
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my cousin, etc. and with this
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man? That annoyed me as a human. It
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wasn't a pleasant experience for me,
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but here's how I look
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at it, which is first of
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all, when
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my family was raised in Milliou,
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we argue with each other, we
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different political issues, we were raised,
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we debated every night at the
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dinner table, my father orchestrated debates,
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and we
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were taught to disagree with each
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other, with passion, with good information,
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but at the same time to love each other. I
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understand why people in my family are dismayed
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about me running, there's five
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members of my family that have jobs with
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the administration or rely on them for
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their work. President
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Biden is a long-term friend
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of me and my family.
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He has a statue of my father behind
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him in the Oval Office. So I see
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why. And
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my family is tied in with the DNC. They
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don't like what I'm doing. But
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from the U.S., a more
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personal question about how I
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internalize that. And
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what I believe is that any
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hardship that I encounter, I have to
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look at it as a gift. I
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need to process everything as something
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that's meant to happen and that I'm meant to
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learn from it. And
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that I need to be grateful for it. So
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did it not hurt you? Everything is teaching me
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something and it's there to teach me something. So
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I don't
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spend any of my life in living
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in resentment. If you are
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resentful about somebody, it's like swallowing poison
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and hoping someone else will die. It's
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corrosive. And
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I am very disciplined about never going
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there. Isn't there a difference between resentment and hurt?
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Yeah, but again,
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my way of processing the experience
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of life is to say these
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things ultimately are
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gifts for me. And
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every person in
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my life who
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I've admired historically,
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Charles Darwin to Alexander the
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Great, to Lewis
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and Clark, to
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Richard Speaks, and any
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great Saint Francis of
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Assisi, Saint Augustine, they
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all went through periods in their lives. where
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they were disparaged, my friends, my
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family, rejected by
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their communities. Winston Churchill,
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another great example. And
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if you want to do something worthwhile
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in your life, you
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have to expect that that's what
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you're going to go through. And
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the reason that people, not more
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people are doing what I'm
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doing is because if it were
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easy, they'd do it. It's
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difficult. And that's part of
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the difficulty. But I'm very disciplined about
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not carrying that stuff around. I think
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that's the right one. Either
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as hurt or as anger. That's
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beautiful. If
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there's a microsecond in my head that
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says, oh, that's hurtful, I
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have now developed the ability to immediately
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change it and say, that means it's
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good. You know, if somebody,
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listen, God is talking to
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you through every encounter that you have.
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Everybody that you meet is a
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messenger. Absolutely. And if somebody throws
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you the finger on a highway,
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you have to make
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yourself ask God, what does he
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want me to learn from this experience? What does
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he want me to do with this interaction? Does
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he want me to be kind? Does he want
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me to pray for that person? So
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are you praying for your family? I
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don't mean that literally, but as they
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are doing something that might be hurtful
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for a split second and then OK. Absolutely.
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And have you had conversations with them? Yes,
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I have. I mean, one
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of the things is that
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several of them have said
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that when
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they were saying, you know, they've sent me
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notes saying, we made sure not to criticize
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you. And in her earlier iterations,
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some of them said a couple of things
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about me. But this
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time they said, and I told
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them I had dinner with my
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family. I
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was with my brother, who was there the other
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day, and I said, look, I really don't
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mind you guys doing this with, you know,
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endorsing Biden. But I don't want you to
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be saying, and I don't think it makes
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you look good. Right. To be
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saying, you know, bad things about me, and
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it's hurtful to my children. And, you know,
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I think the whole family. So I think
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they made an effort not to do that.
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And they all of the several of
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them said to me that they
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had used those moments with President Biden
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to ask him to provide me secret
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service protection. And,
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you know, so I'm happy with that. I think
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that that may be, you know,
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reconsidering the fact that the fact that it's even
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a decision.
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