Today I speak with this show's editor and my very dear friend Caleb Rowe. I met Caleb on the internet in 2019. I was searching for other ex-Christian accounts and found his, noticing that he, too, lived in Minnesota. We had a brief exchange on Instagram and he invited me to his place to record an episode on his podcast, Heir of Grievances. What was going to be an hour interview turned into 3 hours and we've been besties ever since. He calls himself a Christian Atheist and I've spent 1.5 years trying to understand him and his weird church led by Jay Bakker, who I interviewed on this podcast as well. As he planned his move from Minneapolis to Seattle, we said goodbye many times but also wanted to record an episode together to share our friendship and weirdness with you all.

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Now that we’ve begun to process our history with toxic religion, we seek to regain autonomy over our minds and bodies from residual narratives, whether cultural or religious; while working towards respecting and empowering the autonomy of others. Together, we seek to rejoin the human race and participate in this chaotic experience of existence Thanks for listening and remember: You are autonomous and so is everyone else.

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*** Credits ***
Produced by Marie D'Elephant
Edited by Post Christian Podcasting (Caleb Rowe)

*** Time Stamps***
1:08 Monologue
30:25 Announcements
36:30 Intro
40:26 Interview