0:00

I think when get our identity even from

0:03

our kids like that that is scary because

0:05

I mean I can in one day give

0:07

myself a gold star for how I've been

0:10

mommy and then the other day feel like

0:12

I have totally ruined their entire life. That's

0:15

cursed in Watson. Then she joins us

0:17

today on focus on the family with

0:19

Jim Daily I'm John Fuller This coming

0:21

Sunday we celebrate a very special group

0:23

of people. So let me just say

0:26

Happy Mother's Day to all the moms

0:28

moms. You are incredible people and we

0:30

are grateful for you. I had a

0:32

terrific mom. I talk about her often

0:34

even though I only had her for

0:36

nine years. She did a great job

0:38

a given him a kind of the

0:40

core stuff I needed to know which

0:43

really and part was. I think

0:45

a good sense of humor

0:47

the whole family got that

0:49

from her and also Genes

0:51

efforts in the lives of

0:53

our boys give me deep

0:55

appreciation for moms just watching

0:57

her you know struggle with

0:59

cancer and then admiration for

1:01

the boys. all the things

1:03

that are normal mommy and

1:05

is just incredible to see

1:07

their lives blossoming and a

1:09

while motherhood is rewarding. A

1:11

A can certainly have its

1:13

challenges at. Least that's what I have

1:15

seen. Sometimes you

1:17

just need to step back, close your

1:19

eyes, say a little prayer, and take

1:22

a deep breath and that should give

1:24

you some solace. And here focus on

1:26

the family. Were here for your mom's

1:28

we love you. We want to help

1:30

you so call us if you need

1:33

that help. were like and Nine One

1:35

One for the family so don't hold

1:37

back at we're not at Nine One

1:39

One. John will give those details soon,

1:41

but I'm looking forward to days conversation

1:43

because we're. Gonna talk with Cursed and

1:46

Watson. Wife love Nfl veteran and good friend

1:48

of focus Benjamin Watson and they're going to

1:50

be speaking at our upcoming See Life Twenty

1:52

Four event in June which you are not

1:55

going to want to miss. If you can

1:57

be here at the campus it focus on

1:59

the. Family you are invited and they

2:01

are going to be one of the

2:04

great couples that we have addressing the

2:06

group at that time. In all the

2:08

details about Sea Lice coming up in

2:10

June either a join us on campus

2:13

or of the of the livestream are

2:15

at her website and the Lakers in

2:17

the show Notes or give us a

2:19

call. Eight hundred, the litter A and

2:22

the word family Eight hundred to three

2:24

to six four five nine nine nine

2:26

one one not nine one One of

2:28

the The Watson's have an exceptionally. Large

2:30

family. they loved children and dance.

2:33

in addition to being C O

2:35

of her family cursed and rights.

2:37

she's the executive editor of Mom

2:39

Life Today as she and Benjamin

2:41

have a podcast and or conversation

2:43

is going to center around a

2:45

book that Kirsten is written called

2:47

Sis Take a Breath encouragement from

2:50

the woman who's trying to live

2:52

and love well but secretly just

2:54

wants to take a nap and

2:56

one agree title It says alert

2:58

details about the books and. A

3:00

help that we can offer you a when you

3:03

call eight hundred a family or again. We've got

3:05

the link in the show notes first and welcome

3:07

to focus think. You are having. A

3:09

Benjamin's been on a few times. Last he

3:12

has the first time and we're so glad

3:14

that you're here! I am! I'm so happy to be

3:16

Used to be a lot of fun. Of it

3:18

Avenger, you guys must have had. I'm even

3:20

married How many years now, seventeen years and

3:22

he have seven kids. Steps threats are survivors

3:24

are so great when I see big families

3:26

like at the airport see I didn't want

3:28

to jump in and help because I don't

3:30

have enough and smuggler one more to. Help

3:34

with you have got to be

3:36

like experience. Really, he can be.

3:38

I. Mean one of the best mom's in

3:41

the world. Seven kid at managing balancing

3:43

all those balls and he do it.

3:45

i don't know and a day by

3:47

day and minute by minute think that's

3:49

a question that idea get often because

3:51

we do have a lotta kids and

3:53

we do with a lot and fiddling

3:56

with in the spotlight said speak for

3:58

such a long time and And I

4:00

think when you're in it, you just kind

4:02

of hunker down and you're like, we got to get

4:04

things done. We got to get to this place. But

4:07

look, it's funny because looking back, I

4:10

realize how much like God

4:12

was in all of it. Yeah. Um,

4:15

ordering my steps and picking me up and giving

4:18

me patience. You know, it's kind

4:20

of funny because we talked about this before coming on

4:22

the air. Benjamin's back home with all

4:24

the kids. He is. I thought maybe,

4:27

you know, flying a couple of nannies to help. No way.

4:29

You guys are so down to earth. I love it. I

4:31

know Benjamin's back there making the meals for

4:34

the kid. If I do it when you're

4:36

gone, you can do it. I just love

4:38

the day back. He's a guy

4:40

who was pampered for 15 years in the

4:42

NFL. Now he's flipping pancakes. Listen,

4:44

I love it. And it's just such a good

4:46

thing to see with the kids too, because, you

4:48

know, I said earlier, he does it

4:50

differently and that's okay. Let's talk

4:52

about the love story. How did you and Benjamin meet? What

4:56

happened? Yes. We

4:58

met at the University of Georgia. It happened to

5:00

be the year that he transferred from Duke and

5:02

came to Georgia. And it was my sophomore year.

5:04

And I had just been asked to come on

5:06

as a walk-on at the University of Georgia softball.

5:08

So you were playing softball. I was playing softball. And

5:10

he was playing football. He was playing football. And by

5:12

the way, Georgia is number one right now. Just

5:15

saying. He would love for me to say go, dogs. But

5:19

yeah, we met at the Fellowship of Christian Athletes. And

5:22

so great organization. And we were

5:25

talking about having a godly

5:27

dating relationship. And

5:29

the side story is that people kept telling me

5:31

that I needed to meet this guy named Ben Watson.

5:34

And I was like, I don't want to date a football

5:36

player. I don't need to know a football player. I'm

5:38

good. And we were talking

5:40

about dating relationships. And Benjamin gets up and

5:43

he says, my dad always told me that

5:45

your relationship needs to be like a triangle.

5:48

You're on one side of the triangle. She's on

5:50

the other side of the triangle. And God's in the middle. The

5:53

only way you can get close is if you're individually

5:55

seeking the Lord. And that moves you

5:57

kind of up the triangle towards the point. Remember

6:00

looking at my friend I said what's his name.

6:04

Of Allah. Wow. Oh. Now

6:07

I want to know who this did what

6:09

say by his own. So that was my

6:11

first impression of Benjamin. Yeah, that's great

6:13

though, they are. You guys agreed, which

6:15

is great by the way. Statistically to do

6:17

premarital counselling and we we've actually got

6:19

something. her focus for those couples and for

6:21

masters are doing and he. But if you

6:24

get something like ten hours of premarital

6:26

counselling year, likelihood of marital successes eighty five

6:28

percent and so people should do it.

6:30

Yeah, Benjamin did do it. Yet you learn

6:32

some interesting things about each other which is

6:35

the whole point. A whole point in

6:37

our a compatible or as right for each

6:39

other. But what did you learn about

6:41

each other. Our weekend A lot Any

6:43

Benjamin. I even may not know this

6:45

by looking at us. Now that we

6:47

argued a lot the of those I

6:49

could imagine the first born has always

6:51

rights as only get together it ever.

6:53

It's it's a battle over the colored

6:55

sky or it could be anything and

6:57

then premarital counseling are counsellor. It was

6:59

great because he sat us down he

7:01

said i want you out and now

7:03

that even after we go through this

7:05

if I don't feel that you are

7:07

ready for marriage I will not marry

7:09

you and I member looking at visiting

7:11

like once is serious. And it was

7:13

serious to him which made it serious

7:16

for us. And I remember one of

7:18

the first time I looked at Benjamin

7:20

sideways as when we talked about having

7:22

kids and we both said he went

7:24

for children and then the pastor said

7:26

whoa, what is what would the family

7:28

look like once you have kids Here

7:30

I was of a marketing major. Ready

7:33

for you know? Spanish minor ready to conquer

7:35

the world, have my own business and

7:37

Benjamin said well my hope is that

7:39

person would stay at home once we

7:41

started having kids and I was like

7:43

what's. Are you serious that

7:45

we never discussed it? I'd never knew

7:48

his hopes and dreams for that. And

7:50

as an Eeg, you know who you're

7:52

marrying. I a girl who's that? It

7:54

set the world blaze jerk our businesses

7:56

and I remember thinking wow, I.

7:59

would have never known that until

8:01

maybe we had our first child. That was

8:03

his expectation. And it was so

8:05

nice to have that be brought up by the

8:07

pastor and for us to have continuing conversations about

8:10

it once that meeting was over. Well, it's

8:12

clarifying, isn't it? And I think, you know,

8:14

let me ask that question. It may not

8:16

have been directly in the book, but women

8:20

really are struggling. Christian women are

8:22

really struggling with this right now

8:24

because they're perceiving they

8:27

get greater identity out of

8:29

vocational efforts. When at

8:31

the end, I mean, even some of those early

8:33

feminists in the sixties have said

8:36

now that they regret not marrying and

8:38

having children. That

8:40

childbearing is something sacred. I

8:42

mean, that's amazing. And

8:44

let me give you that opportunity to punch

8:46

that even though you went to school, you're

8:49

this marketing genius and

8:51

ready to set the world ablaze. And

8:54

the days are long, you know, cleaning

8:56

up both ends of a baby's body

8:58

is not really. But man,

9:00

I'm telling you when they are launching and

9:02

getting into their twenties and thirties and you

9:04

see that it's an

9:07

incredible experience. But speak

9:09

to that for the moms that are saying,

9:11

I'm kind of back where you were Kirsten,

9:13

help me get a better perspective. Yes,

9:16

I think that finding

9:18

our identity and anything but God is very

9:20

dangerous. And so I think

9:22

when we graduate from school or we have these

9:25

ideas, these hopes and dreams that our identity really

9:27

is in that. And the hope

9:29

is that God would join our plan. And

9:31

so when our lives look different, I remember

9:33

after having five kids being in Baltimore and

9:36

every I was homeschooling and everyone was crying and

9:38

I was crying over not teaching

9:41

math and they were crying over not getting math and

9:43

you're all the major. And I'm like, God,

9:45

I was made for more than this. Like

9:47

I have a degree. I sing wheels on

9:49

the bus, goes round and round all day.

9:52

Is this it? And I

9:54

just remember like it

9:57

was funny. It was through a veggie

9:59

tail. that

10:01

is the story of David. And

10:03

I remember God showing me through that thing, David

10:06

was just a shepherd person and

10:10

everything he was learning, everything he was doing on the

10:12

day to day may not have been what he wanted

10:14

to do and may not have been what

10:17

he thought he should be doing because his brothers were doing

10:19

something that was very exciting. But

10:22

everything that he was doing was preparing him for

10:24

what I had for him. And

10:26

so I remember thinking, okay, Lord, I release it.

10:28

I'm like, this is it. And

10:30

this is five kids in, guys. This is not like my

10:32

first year of marriage. This is several years

10:34

in of me just battling like, when am I gonna

10:36

go to work? When am I gonna do this? Is

10:39

this all I have? And I remember thinking, God,

10:42

you're preparing me for something and I'm gonna

10:44

trust you. And if

10:46

we're giving glory to you, that's what's

10:48

important. And that changed everything. I

10:50

let go of a lot of what

10:53

I thought I should be doing. And I

10:55

said yes to what God had placed in front of me.

10:58

And that was the difference. Right. And

11:00

I love that. I think it was Irma

11:03

Bombek who said, to the adage, the grass

11:05

is greener. On the other side,

11:07

she said, no, the grass is greener where you

11:09

water it. So for the moms and for the

11:11

dads, I mean, that's the season. It's a season.

11:13

It is a season. And it's the highest calling

11:16

that God can give you to raise the next

11:18

generation. That's awesome. Well, we've kind of set up

11:20

the title of the book, Sis, Take a Breath.

11:23

And you mentioned in the book how Pilates

11:25

class got you to understand

11:27

breath. Yes, it did.

11:29

I had worked out. I was an athlete in high school.

11:32

I was an athlete in college. I worked out after all

11:34

of our kids. So I knew how to work out, but

11:37

it wasn't until after our fifth and I

11:39

was working out with the trainers. She was

11:41

observing me and after

11:43

the workout, which I thought I totally nailed. Of

11:45

course, you're not competitive are you? I'm not

11:48

competitive. I'm like, I did, pin push-ups is

11:50

all you want. And so after, I was like,

11:52

so are we ready to get started? She's like,

11:54

I just want to tell you that you're breathing

11:56

incorrectly. And I was like, excuse me,

11:58

ma'am. Insert Iraq

12:00

and like I appreciate your of

12:02

observation by think you're wrong. I'm

12:05

an avid employees exactly. I do it every.

12:07

Day and and She a key really

12:09

earn your muscling through things and you're

12:11

not really using the string that you

12:14

really have on doing the exercise. and

12:16

and I remember thinking. That's

12:19

interesting. And then the next meeting in our.

12:21

Every week we would meet and I realized

12:23

that I had been doing it wrong and

12:25

more a related really to my life of

12:27

how i was is doing life like. Pushing.

12:31

It like you know, struggling and you

12:33

know, foreseeing and just muscling it rather

12:35

than using the breath by God gave

12:37

me to really look at the situation,

12:39

get perspective and find strength and moving

12:41

forward. And so it's kind of crazy

12:43

that police did that because I'm not

12:45

a huge fan A now like more

12:47

of the weights but if you pull

12:49

a lot easier than a me realize

12:51

that my strength am a lot stronger

12:54

than I think I am. and I

12:56

think in life when I'm realizing now

12:58

I'm trying to learn more is that.

13:00

The. More I breathing God's word. The

13:03

more peace I have. As I love this

13:05

story, you had the books at a

13:07

brief moment as a mommy roster kids

13:09

you know that on a how I

13:11

don't identify with a report card do

13:14

for my boys. Well that's side at

13:16

at a little bearing response. I think

13:18

the lowest rate I had was a

13:20

C but another see still I like

13:22

to be at a library all A's

13:24

but it was the same concept. What

13:26

What did your kid say when you

13:28

offered those for them to give you

13:30

some improvement tips? A subset. Of

13:32

a lot to say that I'm actually at

13:34

first they didn't say that as a trap

13:36

though I could. Yeah right you will honor

13:39

to tell you what you're learning and wrong.

13:41

This is totally a set up. The really

13:43

was his I am. A

13:45

practice and be able to tell the

13:47

truth tactfully. And. Honestly and thinking

13:50

about how it comes across I mean

13:52

you don't say mom. This wasn't awful

13:54

dinner but you could say it differently.

13:56

move without sound like so the idea

13:58

of creating around. The Table the idea

14:01

that truth can happen, Honesty can happen, maybe

14:03

are feeling get hurt but really like how

14:05

do we practice telling the truth the same

14:07

way I want them to tell the truth

14:09

about the lord and there's a way that

14:11

you say what Dodd said in the bible

14:14

and in that has to be practiced and

14:16

so in this the in I got one

14:18

of the made the funniest ones was you

14:20

know mommy I don't like cereal and you

14:22

make as eat cereal for the that's not

14:25

saying just. A matter of insanely, you're

14:27

not a morning. Bird. I am not making best

14:29

for you every morning from scratch you know that

14:31

that was. Some of them are funny but other

14:33

ones rocket is what more time I was a

14:35

hard time work on at one time we were

14:37

kind of potty training one of our kids as

14:39

like i feel like you're mad at me when

14:41

I you have the when I call you to

14:43

come help me in the bathroom and like or

14:45

maybe I'm not mad normally right when I'm in

14:47

the middle doing something else and that feels like

14:49

I didn't say that in ahead of it feels

14:51

like. I. Don't want to help you

14:53

but I do with helped me to

14:55

get perspective from their point of view. Zola

14:58

It was really good, some it was funny

15:00

but ultimately was really good. You. And that

15:02

was so good About that is opening

15:04

up a dialogue seasons and then they

15:06

understand a little bit more about how

15:09

you're thinking and feeling. and rail you

15:11

know how they're sinking feeling. That's great.

15:13

Yeah I is Royals as. Adults we get

15:15

old and and as you don't have the opportunity

15:17

tell our parents something that may have said that

15:19

hurt us are some the things that they were

15:21

sued been and I really am trying. We are

15:23

trying to create an atmosphere where our kids can

15:26

come to us and say you know when you

15:28

said that really hurt my feelings and and I

15:30

don't take it you know. Get.

15:32

Super defenses that I have an opportunity. I'm

15:34

sorry that that's not what I meant that

15:36

opening the conversation. I so

15:38

related to this next question kind of

15:40

the through James who became kind of

15:42

the homer mom It you know what

15:44

she pointed out to be there's like

15:47

two or three mom's in a given

15:49

class. That and of I mean there

15:51

with the kids all the time k

15:53

through twelve we would ever to a

15:55

charter school. So the kids went caterer

15:57

twelve and started early like a kindergarten.

15:59

The three they mom's dead first grade,

16:01

second grade, third grade and it was

16:03

a class snacks or what did you

16:05

look hurt and had asked the class

16:08

mack experience. You know I learned a lot.

16:10

They do a nice class snacks that know

16:12

just get all box of whatever you get

16:14

off the cells is not good enough. Know

16:16

whether you if you're. Talking about whatever

16:19

you talk. Roman Empire, Greek Mythology

16:21

a good do and something on

16:23

Saturday. Time area. Like next because

16:25

I thought I was saying yes to a

16:27

snack on a a class project and I

16:29

was thinking this will be easy Let me

16:31

see a good yes. But then

16:33

it became will. We needed to be this

16:35

and we need not be this seem themed.

16:39

Whatever sued what was allowed, what wasn't

16:41

allowed Another: this is going to be

16:43

too much. It's an extra and that

16:45

it's a new now. that's what I

16:47

call it. A But like I don't

16:49

need extra and I realized my extra

16:51

was directly connected to my Yes in

16:53

my nose and my when people ask

16:55

me to do things I say yes.

16:57

But do I really mean yet? Is

16:59

it a good yes or is it

17:01

a yes to make someone think highly.

17:03

Of me is that a yes to

17:05

make me look good? It's because when

17:07

that happens and then others of the

17:10

Clint questions come all the sudden I'm

17:12

angry is pets Now I'm doing too

17:14

much. As I say yes to them. But.

17:16

Flyer heart right exactly when

17:19

the latter me right, Exactly

17:21

as. As a now I am as I

17:23

don't need extra and people ask me to do things.

17:25

I really consider all of the things that I'm saying.

17:27

Yes let's talk about the perfect Thanksgiving

17:29

that you had planned out and do.

17:32

This is funny because the out again

17:34

we all relate to the i know

17:36

funny and sad at the same half

17:38

perfect plan when I return. home

17:41

it we were getting we're gonna do think sitting

17:43

somewhere else in the idea was that we are

17:45

gonna go to this place and we're going to

17:47

have thanksgiving as a family somewhere else to they

17:50

at the kids have never been and so i

17:52

was gonna cook all of the seat at home

17:54

and then bring it with us that way on

17:56

think the know when have to cook and so

17:58

what ended up happening is I'm trying to do all

18:01

the things. We're getting ready to leave, but the kids are at school

18:03

at home online and

18:05

one of my sons is like, mommy, can you come

18:07

here? And I'm like, dude, I'm

18:10

trying to do a million things. Like, what do

18:12

you need? He's like, mom, just come here, please.

18:14

And I'm like, babe, I can't. Cause I'm like

18:17

taking stuff in and out of the oven. I'm

18:19

like trying to create this perfect, come on. Don't

18:21

you want this? You know? And he's like, finally

18:23

he's like out of desperation. He's like, mommy, please

18:25

can you just come here? And so I close

18:28

the oven, I put stuff down, take up and

18:30

I walk over to his seat and

18:32

I see all of these little faces on the zoom. And

18:36

the teacher goes, everybody ready? Has everyone gotten

18:38

the one thing that they're thankful for? And

18:41

I'm like, here's on the

18:43

zoom. Like my son had been asked to

18:45

get the one thing that he was thankful

18:47

for or something that he was thankful

18:49

for and bring it to the zoom meeting.

18:52

And he was persistent and

18:55

it makes me want to cry thinking about it to

18:57

get me to come and sit next to him. I

18:59

was like, in that moment I could

19:01

have missed it. Wow. Could

19:03

have missed what I thought was important.

19:05

What I thought I was planning for

19:08

this perfect day. And in

19:10

the moment, something very special was happening. And so,

19:12

I mean, it still brings tears to my eyes

19:14

that I'm just so sweet. And

19:16

I was fussing and I, it was a really

19:19

sweet moment afterwards. He'd be like, but I'm sorry.

19:21

I am so sorry that I

19:23

thought this was more important than that. And it

19:26

was just a great reminder of like,

19:28

you know, Kirsten, you have to have perspective and

19:31

you could miss out if you are too busy

19:34

doing something that's not that important.

19:36

It's a great reminder. Let me,

19:39

in the next few minutes here,

19:41

just ask those really critical questions.

19:45

Why is a relationship with God so

19:47

important for a mom? You cover it

19:49

in the book. It seems elementary,

19:51

like this is 101, spiritual

19:53

class 101. But we

19:55

get so distracted, men and women, but for the

19:58

mom, why is it so important? Yeah. I

20:00

think it's important. I think we touched on

20:02

it a little bit earlier on identity and

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I think when we I get our identity

20:07

even from our kids like that that is

20:09

scary because I mean I can in one

20:11

day give myself a gold star from how

20:13

I've been mommy and then the other day

20:16

field I have totally ruined their entire life

20:18

and we I wasn't working at least some

20:20

years later the I feel bad and so

20:22

A.sights Listen I am from I am true,

20:25

I do not lie, I am a wholly

20:27

I am All the things that God says

20:29

he. Is as I eat at. This is

20:31

why what your identity be in me. And.

20:34

And nothing else. Because.

20:37

I do not change and so

20:39

for moms I think we get

20:41

busy week when it's very important

20:44

work. And i tell my the

20:46

season like remember people saying i had some time with

20:48

the lord or i had a talk about of the

20:50

book as a binge mills a other the hot tub

20:52

day at work because he he the football player. Like

20:55

us and I was reading through and I'm like. Oh

20:57

really you are reading in the bible like

20:59

that. I drove else in the hot tub

21:02

our as the so nice of you and

21:04

I don't I had this. There's moments where

21:06

as moms and were at home and were

21:08

and and were working that we feel we

21:10

don't have time of the lord. Am.

21:12

I encourage. Mint is always.is always talking.

21:15

To. Whether it's do a song you're listening to

21:17

an something that you're doing with your kids

21:20

like it's important to know and have your

21:22

identity and price and to know what that

21:24

says and is worth. What did your

21:26

daughter Naomi teach you about? listening

21:28

to God? You know it step

21:30

by step so the public's The story is we're

21:32

at a zoo and it is Big huge tree

21:34

in New Orleans a these huge tree that are

21:37

like hundreds of years old. These huge branches in

21:39

the kids can walk on them and they're just

21:41

kind of walking three in the zoo and so

21:43

the kids climb is of the branch comes down

21:45

to the ground as they literally can get on

21:47

and around they walk up and and they can

21:49

jump down on once they get to the Brianna.

21:52

Sounds like fun! It's. A lot of unethical

21:54

lie it's It's amazing. And I remember my

21:56

daughter Naomi got onto the branch and she

21:58

got to the point where. Like.

22:01

You can't hold my hand anymore. On

22:03

tude high up and I want

22:05

to get down and she couldn't.

22:08

Because. Admits you to jump in

22:10

my arms which had been lot, but then there's

22:12

also a line of kids behind her. And

22:15

so they are all like come on you know

22:17

I tell her to hurry up. As

22:19

Naomi tsunami just let me drops, I know

22:21

you're going to finish. You're. Gonna finish.

22:23

not that far away but just listen

22:26

to me as I come on one

22:28

more step second as you step it's

22:30

uneven ground or uneven on the branches

22:32

is is part for she has to

22:34

kind of get down and that she

22:36

finally makes it to the part where

22:38

she can she grabs oh and she

22:40

jumps down and is huge smile on

22:43

her face cause like I did it

22:45

and look at my friend who they

22:47

are dead them do with us in

22:49

there just tears streaming down her face

22:51

and she says person and that. Moment,

22:53

She was only been listening. To your

22:55

voice. Like nothing else

22:57

is mattering. Nothing else was like.

23:00

She was just keyed into your voice

23:02

step by step and that is how

23:05

we see the record for it's scary

23:07

is uneven, it's not straight it feel

23:09

that we can't do it, it's too

23:12

high and there's a lot of voices

23:14

telling us what we should do because

23:16

as listen to me take another step.

23:19

Take. Another step reach here though the

23:21

here and that think that's just how

23:23

I have tried to with my life

23:25

is listening to what he has to

23:28

say and say no, Do this. Don't.

23:30

Do that. But go here to

23:32

say that. Open. This

23:34

door smothered this person is that continuous

23:36

talk with the spirit of like what

23:38

do I do next. you imply that

23:41

final kind of limb coaching if

23:43

i call it the him for

23:45

their mom was sneezes wrung out

23:47

mans everybody's been poland honor the

23:50

kids yeah knows burn she has

23:52

nothing left in the tank yes

23:54

she is have time for quiet

23:56

time the and she's wrong out

23:58

what's that coaching As she's

24:01

walking on that limb, what are

24:03

the words that you would say to her that the Lord said

24:05

to you? Yeah, first

24:07

of all, I've been there, and

24:10

the encouragement is you got this. This

24:13

season will be a season, but

24:16

God will not waste it. He will

24:18

not waste it for the kingdom. And

24:20

my encouragement is just to do what you're

24:22

doing, like get up. And

24:25

my prayer every morning, like, Lord, I don't

24:27

have what it takes. I only

24:29

have the amount of fish and this amount of bread.

24:31

You're going to have to make a miracle. And,

24:34

Lord, I just need what I need for today, because I'm already

24:36

worried about tomorrow, but you told me not to. Just give me

24:38

enough for today. And

24:41

so I think when we posture ourselves as

24:43

it's not up to me, like, I can't

24:46

do everything, like, Lord, tell me what's important.

24:48

My encouragement to that mom is that you

24:51

got this. Take a bowl and find

24:53

some other women. We

24:58

can't do this alone. We cannot do this

25:00

alone. We were not meant to do it

25:02

alone. We cannot do it alone. And

25:04

so those women that will be with you in

25:06

those times that will pray for you, that will

25:08

lift your arms up when you have nothing else

25:10

to hold them up with. And those women are

25:12

the reasons why I'm able to say I know

25:15

how you feel. And they are the ones praying for

25:17

me. They are the ones that, like, brought me dinner

25:19

for my kids, because I have nothing else. Right,

25:22

I'm done. Yeah, so that would be my

25:24

encouragement. I'm going to put a cereal. Yeah, what

25:26

are we going to do? Because these

25:28

people want biscuits made from scratch. Kirsten,

25:30

this has been so good. A

25:33

mother of seven. Let's just start there for

25:35

your experience. And author of the book,

25:38

Sis, Take a Breath. What

25:40

a great resource. And

25:42

I encourage moms to get a copy

25:44

of this so they can put sanity

25:46

back in place of insanity and chaos.

25:49

Thank you so much for being with us. Thanks for

25:51

having me. Yeah. And I'm a good boy for the

25:53

listener, for the viewer. This is

25:55

a great resource, man, and you need

25:58

it. And husbands, you might want to do it. want

26:00

to pick this up a little clandestinely

26:02

and then give this to your wife

26:04

to encourage her and to help

26:07

her through that daily grind. What

26:09

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26:11

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26:13

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