0:00

And unfortunately a church culture I would

0:02

say we kind of just default to

0:05

will just stand up be a man.

0:07

But what is at me like specifically

0:09

was a beautiful specific vision or less

0:12

Brand Hansen He's our guest today on

0:14

Focus on the Family with Jim Daily.

0:16

He's gonna help us understand God's great

0:19

plan for young men and how important

0:21

they are for us is a society

0:23

and culture. Thanks for joining us I'm

0:26

John Fuller John. It seems today that

0:28

so many young men are aimlessly wandering.

0:31

Maybe through gaming or literally just

0:33

wandering through the streets. You know

0:35

what to do. What do we

0:37

do? It's an epidemic and it

0:39

it is. A sense of purpose,

0:41

listeners and I think today we're

0:43

going to hit this topic with

0:45

a great guess is rent and

0:47

book the young men we need

0:49

and Vienna with the father of

0:51

two young men. I'm really interested

0:53

in what we're going. Talk about

0:55

me, I'm leaning in as well.

0:57

End up Brand Hansen is syndicated

0:59

radio host. On more than two hundred

1:01

radio stations. He's the author of a

1:03

number of books and as you said,

1:05

Jim the one that can inform the

1:08

foundation for a conversation today. The young

1:10

men we need God's purpose for every

1:12

guy and how you can live it

1:14

out and stuff by. Focus on the

1:16

family.com/broadcast for all the details about Brandt

1:18

and the book Brat Welcome back to

1:20

Focus it's going to have Yeah I'm

1:22

always honor to talk to get it's

1:24

always fun to see you then you

1:26

know I love your writing style and

1:28

it's just this refresh it. It's Rod

1:30

that's right out there and you do

1:32

a great job articulating ideas. Thanks! I

1:34

try to write in a funny way,

1:36

but that's always in either the holder

1:39

to hit pets, the jewelry have what

1:41

may be funny to me you may

1:43

not, but sometimes works. Let's start with

1:45

the scripture were focus on the family.

1:47

I mean, that's our core is our

1:49

commitment to Christ and we think everything

1:51

is built upon that. the family. Everything

1:53

about you. Look at some one Ninety

1:55

Nine it says, how can a young

1:57

man keep his way pure by guarding

1:59

it accord. To your word. Ah, that's

2:01

pretty. But that's it, isn't it? It

2:03

is in a bit. Guys aren't told

2:05

whose are supposed to be soon. They're

2:08

not. What are they here in the

2:10

culture? What it. What are they supposed

2:12

to be? With Air quotes will distance

2:14

it? There's no. there's no actual vision

2:16

for it, but. There's. The

2:18

larger culture has no clue, and won't

2:21

articulate any sort of specific thing about

2:23

masculinity. We know that. And

2:25

but the other thing that. Even. Nevada Christian

2:27

guys are going to entertain. Yep,

2:30

you don't know much about him

2:32

like he's the just epitome of

2:34

selfishness using women. It's. Exactly

2:36

the opposite of what we would want.

2:39

To. To Save it's literally in

2:41

christian schools. A lotta guys. Are.

2:44

Bending towards that and they idolize him. Why

2:46

do you think that is? I mean it's

2:48

an interesting. Inverse. Reaction

2:50

to what we would hope for obviously.

2:52

but what's what's creating that appetite And

2:54

young men to go So can a

2:56

core and baseless they want to know

2:58

who that if they're supposed to be

3:00

and he's giving them a vision in

3:03

in the absence of a better vision.

3:05

it's something. I mean guys

3:07

want to know like what is my

3:09

mission Which folks who am I inseparable

3:11

openly say that like I'm following him

3:13

because no one else is showing me

3:15

any model and unfortunately a church culture

3:17

I would say. We. Kind

3:19

of just default tool to stand up. be a

3:21

man. But what is

3:23

at me like sitting there was a

3:26

beautiful specific vision the Mayor she this

3:28

to though I am in that regard.

3:30

We hear a lot about the feminization

3:32

of the church. You know that men

3:34

don't feel comfortable. So

3:37

much going to church in the way that

3:39

it's structure the tell like school. He got

3:41

to sit still and listen and that's not

3:43

something we typically do well even as adult

3:45

male right? It doesn't resonate with the our

3:47

A guys and this is one of the

3:49

things I write about I think is great

3:51

news. I talk about your spiritual

3:53

life. What is it actually looks like. Disguise.

3:56

Will auto times think that God has

3:58

abandoned them? Or maybe. The not real

4:00

clean off feel him like we're supposed

4:02

to feel. Feelings. Or

4:05

something or it's like our whole culture is

4:07

based on emotions were in that seeps into

4:09

church culture to innocent bad. I mean the

4:11

as a good thing know but for a

4:13

lotta guys and for some women to might

4:15

be more analytical if they're not feeling that

4:17

you feel like. You. Must not

4:19

be spiritual myself. That's what I

4:21

thought. Yeah, Like. I must not.

4:24

Everybody else is feeling something. a lot of

4:26

young guys don't get it. It.

4:28

Doesn't click for them. They're not have that

4:30

same experience and worship service is not their

4:33

fault is just that. Real

4:35

Spirituality. What I'm trying to tell young guys and

4:37

they can get this: Like. It's

4:39

not a motion. His loyalty.

4:42

That's what got us what God is looking

4:44

for no other way. And andor tape is

4:46

actually taking. Because. Aura Joe

4:48

Rogan or sure know people that are speaking

4:51

forcefully into mail culture about being male gets

4:53

just. here's a vision they're giving it as

4:55

think it's a horrible one is one that

4:57

it it's when it betrays what are real.

4:59

Rural is what I try to sketch out

5:02

and birds so that. That's

5:04

the whole point of the books. Like: What

5:06

is this specific vision that I can shoot

5:08

for an it's a beautiful when Like is

5:10

that people around you will benefit from this.

5:12

You don't benefit from. The. Entertain

5:15

Model the people around you suffer. Yeah

5:17

men have a fork in the road.

5:19

either he or a taker giver and

5:22

had a figure out which is what

5:24

you want to be. And of course

5:26

the the word A God is about

5:28

being selfless and giving of all kinds

5:31

of things. talent, treasure. yeah I'm so

5:33

family to the vision of China sketch

5:35

out as the idea of what Adam

5:38

was given to now. He's. A

5:40

keeper of the guard. Guess.

5:43

It didn't hurt and. Against

5:45

the enemy that was in it. For. He

5:47

sailed. But. That was his job.

5:50

And it means creating a space where the

5:52

vulnerable can thrive. It. Means.

5:55

Are. Protecting. People.

5:58

Around you. It. Means. If

6:01

you have a garden their species that are more

6:03

nibble a can't grow in that wilde but. Because.

6:06

You're there to get that bloom. And.

6:08

Flourish. Like that.

6:10

Everybody's got a garden. And this

6:12

is your job, your sphere of influence as the

6:14

people around you get to thrive because you there

6:17

and they're protected because you're They are there. More

6:19

secure, not less secure. See. Around entertain

6:21

your less secure. But. Around a

6:23

keeper, the garden, the people rounds you're more secure to

6:25

do their in the to the extent that you make

6:28

them aware of that they they're. They. Become

6:30

aware that your point of security they're drawn

6:32

to you get in. that's the big go

6:34

and will will impact them will bit more.

6:37

Let's start with toxic masculinity and what that

6:39

means. I don't know that many men understand

6:41

what that means. Well how I'm a toxic.

6:43

well I think it's a courses to stroll

6:46

around miss problems that it's like this one

6:48

size fits all thing that no one really

6:50

knows exactly what it means. But I think

6:52

there can be toxic masculinity. To the said

6:55

that if you're trying to be intimidating. To.

6:58

Innocent people. To vulnerable people

7:00

near the boys And yeah, you, You

7:02

make them insecure you. You make people

7:05

feel insecure around you vs. secure at

7:07

the deepest level. That's what that is,

7:09

I think. Conversely, there are counsellor friends

7:11

of mine who say they see more.

7:15

Toxic Masculinity in terms of what

7:17

they call toxic passivity. Where

7:19

people feel insecure around a dad or a

7:21

husband because they are afraid he won't show

7:23

up and he doesn't He just doesn't. He

7:26

just has checked out there so it's

7:28

actually still toxic and still makes people

7:30

feel insecure. Such a difference. I think

7:32

that's a difficult one because I think

7:35

men when we seal under pressure you

7:37

know in your marriage your wouldn't work.

7:39

Perhaps he we tend to back up.

7:41

In. Or says one of our it's

7:44

almost like instincts yeah is to get

7:46

quiet back. Let's keep the peace. We

7:48

don't iraq the boats. How are you

7:50

want to describe that? And that's not.

7:53

Healthy know it it. That phrasing that

7:55

they put on there are other toxic

7:58

Passively help me. Yeah, that. that's. True,

8:00

I don't. I like going out like that like

8:02

my wife needs to know that I'm engaged. In

8:05

a she suspects I'm not. Or. That

8:07

I wouldn't rise to the occasion. Or.

8:09

I've if I am, Too quiet and

8:11

make her wonder. If

8:13

he really does, he really wasn't easy. That's.

8:16

A problem well in in the inner

8:18

again. A therapists will start telling you

8:20

that when you quiet down and new

8:22

shut down, your wife's going to start

8:24

prodding you on purpose to get some

8:26

kind of response. Yeah, because you just

8:28

so passive year and has and that's

8:31

not healthy. Now it's it's It's a

8:33

vicious cycle. but. One

8:35

of the things that struck me

8:37

house reading another books and a

8:39

guy said. I. Can become

8:41

the threat to my wife with my

8:43

words. Like. He can pat yourself

8:45

on the back like I defend against an intruder if

8:47

he came in. But. He said

8:50

must have have on the intruder. It's.

8:52

My lack of words. my sarcasm

8:54

wanted you to on the problem

8:56

one center. So. I

8:58

think there's something to that both on both

9:01

of those ends. A problem is you're making

9:03

people around you less secure, but if you

9:05

exude security, And your wife doesn't

9:07

have to worry about. I tell young guys it's

9:10

like this is your with you get married. Your

9:12

wife's going to want you to be a. Focus.

9:15

Of Security of. A provider

9:17

security. And. If you're not,

9:19

didn't resent you. But. If you

9:21

are she's gonna find you wildly attractive.

9:23

Has severely a trip. There's a secret

9:25

yeah I have a an ex that's

9:27

a way to get guys attention but

9:29

it's not the reason to fulfill the

9:31

keeper of the of the Garden idea.

9:33

But if I'm talking to young guys

9:35

like need do understand women will find

9:37

you more attractive if you're of source

9:39

of security in a see that way

9:41

like to see you know because they

9:43

deeply know deep down this is what

9:45

your for if the core need yeah

9:47

for everybody actually. so the question becomes

9:49

the golden question here. Halfway in a

9:52

third of the way. And how can

9:54

a young man take initiative to be

9:56

keepers and protectors in their respective gardens?

9:58

Yeah, the thing I. Start with

10:00

in. Is that thing

10:02

us and about spiritual life? Like.

10:05

First of oh God is looking for loyalty. So.

10:07

You just keep showing up in talking with him.

10:10

I'm telling guys he wants to partner with human life

10:12

is always been looking for partners. Of. Abraham,

10:15

Adam, Eve like it's is looking for parties

10:17

look an affair with you. So.

10:19

He says keep talking to him, He keeps

10:21

showing up even if you sin and you

10:23

are center. Is. Still show up,

10:25

you know, slink away and shame. What does it

10:28

mean to partner? I mean, sometimes we can over

10:30

complicate that. I think God the older I get,

10:32

the more I realize the simpler it is and

10:34

we can over complicate that. That means I do.

10:36

I need to form an Llc with God and

10:39

stored talk to my count about that, yet am

10:41

being facetious. Yes, I mean, why do we make

10:43

it so difficult to wake up every morning? say

10:45

come Holy Spirit, let's go to work to the

10:48

rye and talk to God about what you, what's

10:50

on your mind, what you're doing, and life together.

10:52

Dallas Forward said that's the definition of prayer. Is

10:55

you and God? Talking. About what you're

10:57

doing in life together. We. Can

10:59

do that. I. Can keep showing up

11:01

in overtime. What happens as you. Continue.

11:03

That you change. He. Became a different sort

11:05

of person. So. I would start

11:07

with that. There's a lot of things I

11:09

unpack in a book about seeking wisdom. How

11:11

to do that? On. How.

11:14

To. The importance of

11:16

rejecting fake stuff. Which.

11:18

Is a real problem as you know, but

11:20

if you're not, It. Like you

11:22

can fall into these traps. One

11:25

thing I tell him as your schedule

11:27

determines. A lot of

11:29

the temptations that you face food so you

11:31

can be really discouraged. Spears like I'm such

11:33

a failure, I keep falling into this: Yeah

11:35

man. If you need have more stuff on your

11:37

schedule. It's driven like

11:39

mean or demeanor. Yeah right exactly. You're left

11:41

with your computer and your and your house

11:44

for to write it. Really it. Sometimes it's

11:46

just changing your your calendar year that can

11:48

take care of this. I use an example

11:50

it kids were was a. Youth.

11:52

Leader. To. Go on a mission trip

11:54

to build a house. These are guys. I was disabling.

11:57

So. We're pretty close with Tyler stuff. They

12:00

always struggled with loss. There was always a

12:02

big topic always. You know, Always.

12:05

And we did this week long project. It was with

12:07

a coed group. And.

12:10

At the end of the week this is in an

12:12

ad in the desert in Mexico. I.

12:14

Said as he I struggled lot with less

12:17

this week. And they were like. Hadn't

12:19

even thought about it. Be like, know, We've.

12:22

Been too busy like were didn't We're building a

12:24

house. were coming back. It's hot out like it

12:27

were busy morning till night. And.

12:29

They laughed about we've been laughing with am a

12:31

great time. We've been doing something important. Funny

12:34

how it doesn't become like

12:36

subtitles. issues. Of. Leave when

12:38

you can alter your schedule little bit.

12:40

Nicer truths as what's your message to

12:43

guys about why it's important to protect

12:45

the vulnerable. I mean, I think it's

12:47

in our heart to do that as

12:50

yeah, but you're right. The messages today

12:52

are all over the map. We don't

12:54

know what we're supposed to be right.

12:57

Women are more assertive and you know

12:59

lot of people think that's very good.

13:01

More women are and master's programs. More

13:03

women in college. Fewer men are going

13:06

to those programs now. So. When you

13:08

look the message for young men in their

13:10

twenties, let's say it. It's kind of difficult

13:12

figure out what am I supposed to be

13:14

exactly. I just read an article in Fox

13:16

which is like a progressive right and they

13:18

were if they were having the same conversation

13:20

like who in the world a guy supposed

13:22

to be We don't have a model for

13:24

that. We'll talk about protecting

13:27

the vulnerable. That's like old fashion,

13:29

yeah, but it's what you're made

13:31

for in little boys will understand

13:33

that. How little kids did you tell

13:35

the go to kick start picking on your sister? You're supposed to

13:37

be her defender. But. You're betraying

13:39

your role. Yeah, they a

13:42

clicks because were made for this and

13:44

even in that article they said admit

13:46

it. Really good protectors and providers when

13:48

they're at their best like now. Imagine

13:50

and when that clicks was a kid a

13:53

guy. least you have the picture. Even if

13:55

you don't fulfill it, they can go. Ah,

13:57

that's what I suppose that Happy Brandt. I

14:00

want to come back to the

14:03

the what you talked about isolation

14:05

because I think a wouldn't spend

14:07

enough time on that because it's

14:09

so or well have difficulty Am

14:12

you also combined net isolation with

14:14

something you phrase sexual super normal

14:16

stimuli at describe what that is

14:18

and how that traps us as

14:21

so. While I'll talk to guys

14:23

about this Ike. So.

14:26

In Nature. There's. There's a

14:28

guy a dutch guide him of his name

14:30

it doesn't matter but on something yeah i

14:32

was a i get my something and he

14:35

did this study with mail stickleback fish which

14:37

sat on with as i really like the

14:39

apparently they'll attack these other kinds of fish.

14:42

And. They have read markings when they hit.

14:45

The. Fishes that they attack is like what if

14:47

I enhance those red markings? what lab and they

14:49

went wild and attack like crazy. Just.

14:51

I seeing this as read he

14:53

did it with butterflies where he

14:56

created this fake butterfly. And.

14:58

Use vivid colors even more than a butterfly

15:00

and it didn't really look like a butterfly

15:02

bullet. Just and. That.

15:04

Males were driven wild and they kept

15:06

trying to mate. With. The fake

15:09

little. Thing. The he may with so

15:11

colorful. And. This

15:13

occurs in nature all the time

15:15

if you wanna do these experiments. But

15:18

the thing was they were real female

15:20

butterflies right there available. And.

15:22

They ignored the female butterflies and

15:25

he went for the sake. Super.

15:28

Out. As as were like, it

15:31

accentuated exaggerated. Sake! Or.

15:34

That's tragic. But. That's

15:36

what we do. That's. What our

15:38

culture set up to do at that turbo it

15:40

is. But that's that's something that once I think

15:43

a young guy starts to figure out like wait,

15:45

I'm being sold a bill of goods hear? This.

15:48

Isn't a real woman? This

15:50

is pixels. This. Is this

15:52

is an image? It's not a real

15:54

person. In. I'm not having

15:56

a real relationship. But.

15:59

That's the trick. Like that's the super

16:01

normal stimulation. Now you can't relate to a

16:03

real woman. It's

16:05

a it's a total the seat and

16:07

it's also the integrity If you're talking

16:09

about. Without. The integrity

16:11

of that ethic. that sexual

16:13

ethics right to go for

16:15

something false. Or. To go for

16:17

something God created in terms of it being

16:19

real which is literally live woman thing rights

16:21

really life giving us and will help you

16:24

grow up and be demand that you wanted

16:26

to be. Like those that image will

16:28

never do that as never get a call you

16:30

out. On. Things you need to

16:32

improve in now a just doesn't suit you

16:34

bit you're being is a sucker punch. You're.

16:37

Being given this. The.

16:39

Like the he look over here you find out you

16:41

miss your life. You know one know when. Kernels

16:44

of feedback help put it that way

16:46

that we will receive as you know,

16:48

parents perhaps of adult children in their

16:50

twenties that made it a decision to

16:52

live with their girlfriend or boyfriend. You

16:54

know that's always the phrase in our

16:56

we did, we met, we want to

16:58

get married, we just want to. Kenneth

17:00

tested out to make sure we're compatible.

17:02

You had somebody call you I think

17:04

and ass that very or make that

17:06

very same statement. What did you suggest

17:08

to them in terms of here? they're

17:10

such a way to my radio show.

17:12

I asked him if. This happens

17:14

quite a big the such as comments

17:17

very common today and I ask why.

17:19

Are you gonna marry? Oh yeah, we get married it

17:21

eventually. A miracle. What? Are

17:24

you waiting for? Well you know was financially. We have

17:26

a two year old to get. Okay. See you have

17:28

it's a son with her right? Yep. So.

17:31

You're having sex. With.

17:33

You, You're obviously. Your

17:35

body as saying we are one. But.

17:37

You don't have the guts to actually walk that

17:39

out. Spiritually.

17:42

Like. Why not just say

17:44

to her and your son.

17:47

Your. Safe with me for the rest of

17:49

my life. Something like your body's I am

17:52

writing checks that your soul won't cash. Yeah,

17:54

I think that's a great way to put

17:56

it at a guess. The Lesson: Tim Keller

17:58

forgotten somebody else. but. It's so

18:00

brilliant. Was like why is this. Lack.

18:03

Of integrity that your buys doing

18:05

something that you're not backing up

18:07

spiritually right You years your withholding

18:09

yourself. That. You're offering your

18:11

body will. that's that's. literally. Disintegration.

18:14

It's dis integrity right? You want all these

18:16

things in line with each other so that

18:19

you become who you could have been as

18:21

should be. I get an integrated person. You

18:23

know it's interesting because I don't think we

18:26

understand the depth of integrity and when I

18:28

that actually means you know when things I've

18:30

tried to teach my boys in the dating

18:32

situations you know you have got to remember

18:35

that girl you're dating most likely will not

18:37

be your wife and you need to respect

18:39

or in that regard because she somebody elses

18:42

future wife right? So you need. To

18:44

respect her body. In

18:47

such a way. As a Christian that

18:49

you're not doing things you shouldn't do,

18:51

she should be safe with you, your

18:53

girlfriend, your sister, your whoever like when

18:55

you're taking advantage of her for your

18:58

own thrill. That's. A betrayal

19:00

of your what you now the threat in a

19:02

garden. So how do we get young men to

19:04

be ambitious toward the right? Saying so I mean

19:06

it is if or so clouded as a Christian

19:08

culture. Within. This bigger clouded

19:11

culture. Tada. We lay out the bread

19:13

crumbs for younger men as dad's as

19:15

mentors how to we help them, how

19:17

we help ourselves First of all to

19:20

know where leading in a direction as

19:22

of right and positive feel. I'm usually

19:24

a guy who's like well there's of

19:26

in I don't know, maybe let's look

19:29

at this and and. An

19:31

assist I don't think it's complex, I really

19:33

don't didn't have a friend with a sports

19:35

car that can illustrated as oh, sir, yeah.

19:38

I talk a lot about contentment in the book

19:40

to about of having the audacity to say look

19:42

their stuff in life that's really awesome and beautiful

19:44

and I don't have to own it. At

19:47

a beautiful woman, I don't have to own her. That's.

19:49

A beautiful car at the school. I don't have to own

19:51

it. By. I learned that from

19:53

friends have gotten stuff. Within a week my

19:55

friend got a sports car. It was super

19:57

hot and I was like that's in the.

20:00

I'm trying to build him up the like you're

20:02

not amount of engineer. He. Said

20:04

he was for the first few days. None like.

20:07

Minister. Got the better access is

20:09

has already started not meeting the

20:11

needs. Yeah sweet like. Teaching.

20:14

Consumers really good talking about that stuff,

20:16

but honestly about leaving them bread crumbs.

20:18

about how to do this. If

20:20

they have to be given this vision first

20:22

and all that stuff makes sense. So to

20:25

say you shouldn't live together will wipe really.

20:27

If they haven't been told because you're supposed

20:29

to protect this woman, not betray her. You're.

20:32

Supposed to be her provider of security. Why

20:35

won't you commit to her? Why We you

20:37

just use her body? And. Not

20:39

actually commit her once you've got that

20:41

vision in a larger picture. The other

20:43

stuff makes sense. But for Absinthe

20:45

as to sponsor rules are on the

20:47

fuddy duddy ideas or something. so bread

20:50

I appreciate so much which are saying

20:52

I'm feeling a little convicted year because

20:54

maybe I haven't models the so Well

20:56

maybe maybe I've made some bad decisions.

20:58

May be a feed those appetites I

21:00

don't deny him and us so how

21:03

do I. Had my believably

21:05

model and and help a younger

21:07

guy in my life to see.

21:09

This is the vision in it's

21:11

attainable. Yeah, no I've messed up

21:14

along the way. I

21:16

think there's something really. Powerful

21:18

about. A. Guy apologize.

21:22

And. It in the to be a big weepy same to see

21:24

know I was the other day. I.

21:26

Haven't always been what are you should have

21:29

been? And. I think it's this keeper,

21:31

the garden thing. But. I'm a try to walk

21:33

that are now. And. I'm.

21:36

On of your sources Cures for people. Now

21:39

I understand that, but it's never too late

21:41

to change at a younger guys with ton

21:43

of respect for that. I would. I'd.

21:46

I'd there's guys older than me. Know

21:49

the our federal we have you know? How dare I

21:51

say. That I had a

21:53

guy who's pay twenty years older than me and I

21:55

was talking about talking he the way you talk to

21:57

your wife. And making her feel secure.

22:00

And he said at the end of the cycle small

22:02

group is like. I. Am. I

22:05

have bad of marriage for forty years

22:07

and I've been a sarcastic church that

22:09

starts today. I don't remember having

22:11

that conversation. Find that that? Navigate

22:15

through some of his developed a skill set and

22:17

it's just man. It's are sword. I know, I

22:19

know. I don't whip it out so fast. we

22:21

don't. You know we've taken it out of the

22:24

she's that. How awesome is that? He's like that

22:26

starts today like you can still rethink. you can

22:28

repaint, it can change. and I don't think less

22:30

of him. I'm like. Dude. And so

22:32

much respect for that. The you're going to change and

22:34

your wife going to benefit, she's going to get to

22:36

flourish in bloom. As. A result

22:38

of you being better keeper of your

22:41

garden. It's awesome. Well any know what's

22:43

fundamentally true is when we aim at

22:45

something we have a higher likelihood we're

22:47

going ahead at the center of yeah

22:49

I would. He aimlessness is what most

22:51

of us are feeling in a culture

22:53

that doesn't give direction or gives poor

22:56

direction right wrong direction. and then we

22:58

in the church I'm he was gotta

23:00

do the job of lifting or young

23:02

men up To say here's the goals

23:04

and what you're seeing in these social

23:06

leaders that are taking guys. Down

23:08

a darker pass as like.

23:11

True. Toxic masculinity. You know?

23:15

We've got to get in there and arrest sad

23:17

and tell young men there's a better way to

23:19

have going to connect with your heart. Yes, exactly

23:21

this. Wow. As for him. Course.

23:24

He write a book, you're done or hey

23:26

everybody a he read it like it or

23:28

more wound up above the same anything and

23:30

well it's interesting as you write about a

23:32

lot of different time. Really wound up about

23:34

it because I see this in a see

23:37

everyone suffering as a result of of guys

23:39

not knowing what their role was supposed to

23:41

be. Everybody and guys feel depressed. There's death,

23:43

the deaths of despair, suicide rates three out

23:45

affords men now. Like you

23:47

don't know, it's very enlivening. When.

23:49

You know what your mission is. But.

23:51

You didn't feel meaningless if you're just doing

23:54

meaningless stuff. now it's it. But that's what

23:56

young guys are largely due, only given a

23:58

better picture so that the. Oh that's

24:00

actually going to energize them. there were

24:02

mess with your book does less lint

24:04

that he will end on a high

24:07

note of funny. Know it should be

24:09

this analogy ahead trying to find toilet

24:11

paper during said he had a pandemic

24:13

is so funny illustration of being aimless

24:15

but go right. Plus segment has been

24:17

ripped off like said swindled in like

24:19

that yeah with during Toby does the

24:21

toilet paper shortage and I'll add so

24:24

even on Amazon and and ordered at

24:26

a very high rate like. Fifty.

24:29

But I can remember for twelve rolls of toilet

24:31

paper like release will have some delivered to as

24:33

we get it all. Twelve rules concerns you box.

24:36

Is many, many roles toilet paper for

24:38

else is what we batted an eyelid

24:40

like. This is hilarious

24:42

but is it so illustrative honestly of with

24:45

how evil works in the world could you

24:47

gets it gets sold something It turns out

24:49

it rains the life out of you, didn't

24:51

give you lies and nobody should mess with

24:53

toilet paper. Know I just had to take

24:56

away the that my next book actually come

24:58

nobody should elsewhere. Quota is evidence has now

25:00

at a specified me the title. Of

25:03

it had like you'd get account on

25:05

that delivery he writes only do I

25:07

but it's soda for like no I'm

25:09

not a. Vignette

25:11

A way to months or more right? A

25:14

figure out a garden with taken I believe

25:16

Mr. and Mrs. Trace brain dead. A great

25:18

job The young men. We need God's purpose

25:20

for every guy and how you can live

25:22

it. I mean this is simply not only

25:24

as older guys need to do and embrace,

25:26

but we get a model it like you

25:28

said John and we need to point younger

25:30

men in the direction to go about it.

25:32

Develop, A mentor and group in your church

25:34

and let alone talking to your own sons

25:37

about what the goal is and you've done

25:39

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