I discuss focusing on what we can control and the benefits of boredom. I also talk to stand-up comic Ashley Gavin about changes in our creativity during the pandemic, the stand-up writing process, Ashley’s Parent Trap satire musical, her previous job as a software engineer, depression, avoiding the spotlight as kids, manifesting “flow state,” meditation, taking a happiness class, stand-up’s connection to acting and jazz, why everyone wants to be an actor, struggling socially, and failure.

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