Ken talks with Bret Thoman “Following Padre Pio: A Journey of Discovery from Pietrelcina to San Giovanni Rotondo” and Eric Sammons “Holiness for Everyone: The Practical Spirituality of St. Josemaria Escrivá” (Sophia Institute). Bret’s book is available at: https://www.amazon.com/Follow…/dp/B0BSD7C5VS/ref=sr_1_3… Eric’s book available at: https://www.sophiainstitute.com/…/holiness-for-everyone Contact Bret about his tours at: http://www.stfrancispilgrimages.com/index.html