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surprising reason why so we talk about

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endorsements and much bonuses and how looks

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if they convey. Also I have my

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run for the season. Hello

0:50

Welcome So that Peter Crouch poor costa

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like tours I saw it, they increase

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stuck with me as usual. How are

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we boys? Okay, Really? Good on

0:58

I'm on top of the world. Really really

1:00

good Yeah you lads yeah or goods or

1:02

good idea of I know you. You're very

1:04

on well at the moment pay so we're

1:06

in a way to regulation I mean sits

1:08

or in the pub and were watching you

1:11

on a screen here and your your in

1:13

your home right. I. Am

1:15

in my home where of I'm still here.

1:17

Are. Of yeah about a tough time. To

1:20

be honest, I'm sure the prices just game

1:22

bear. I'm in that process where I feel

1:24

like I'm fired. A Wanna. Call.

1:26

it get out without them but. Apps.

1:28

Kind of holding me back on although

1:31

she means well. You. Know.

1:33

She's been an amazing nurse. Look it off to

1:35

me. Because I've been great, a

1:38

scholar gets the stage now where she's keeping

1:40

a shock result me. I'm.

1:42

Ah, although now that she's caught a

1:45

lot for dying hours per com. Florence.

1:48

By marrying Go Now! A

1:51

talk us through how she is is a

1:53

nurse that? what do you mean like how's

1:55

how's she doing this so so well? Tokens:

1:57

they're up a think though. that of. who's

2:00

gonna go. Lawrence, Lawrence

2:03

Nightmaringale, she is great. She

2:06

worries, that's the problem. And then like, when

2:09

I feel like I'm better, I do it every

2:11

time. And I think it's just probably a male

2:14

trait where you think, I'm fine now. You

2:16

know, but she's probably

2:19

right. I need to kind of,

2:21

I need to rest, not do too much.

2:24

But yeah, I'm trying to overexpose her, but she's feeding

2:26

me up now quite heavily. And

2:29

it's like a child, I'm sitting

2:31

there, I'm like, I can't eat anymore, Mum. And

2:35

she's forcing it down me saying that you've

2:37

got to be stronger. So that's

2:39

where we are at the moment. I've got the opposite

2:41

problem at the moment. I'm trying to eat less. Then

2:44

we touched on this on the last podcast. I'm

2:47

trying a couple of things. We're trying a bit of exercise. I'm

2:49

trying to eat less. Because apparently

2:52

that works. And but

2:55

that's so difficult. So you've got the opposite

2:57

to me, you're getting loads of food. And

3:00

I'm eating a lot less and just trying

3:02

to be happy. It's a weird one. Yeah,

3:05

very weird one. Yeah. But you know what,

3:08

we've kind of got into

3:10

the food situation without actually addressing the

3:12

fact that we're boring everyone

3:15

to tears about how we're feeling. We haven't got,

3:17

we're supposed to have cancer on today. Where

3:19

do we start with this? So yes,

3:22

we obviously did a whole episode largely

3:24

focused on the brilliance of Canton are

3:26

ahead of our chat with him, which

3:28

was going to be this podcast. And

3:32

actually, this morning, we were expecting

3:34

that chat to go ahead. And

3:37

then we got messages, what, a couple of hours

3:39

ago? Yeah, well,

3:41

it was basically like, I'm not very well.

3:44

And you know, I couldn't kind of come

3:46

in, we wanted to do it properly. So

3:49

we've just postponed it, it will happen. But

3:51

at the moment, it's been postponed. We

3:53

would have loved to have him on. But there was

3:55

one slight issue we had with the

3:58

chat. And That was. We

4:00

would hold. While.

4:02

I on that m there would be absolutely

4:04

for Porsche. Or with Eric. Software.

4:07

Is slightly. Slightly. Strange considering where

4:09

for purple cast the these the. A

4:12

footballer we very much of admired. By.

4:14

He is pursuing a career in

4:16

music. I mean it's to Mavericks.

4:18

Thought? Was it the Mavericks? The

4:20

is akin. Can't. Do

4:23

we want this for i bit less still was

4:25

the also up to ask him Send things home

4:27

now and think you know it. Will.

4:30

Begin also moves of gonna touch on the

4:32

the singing an acting career but the bulk

4:34

of it now it's some separatists interest is

4:37

beset us just what you normally do that

4:39

if he sees his got these and obviously

4:41

we want to learn so much about that

4:43

but it's eric cancer surface eventually he would

4:46

talk about it talk about both to for

4:48

the support of about the us. But.

4:50

The idea you don't suffer any football or

4:52

think is just brilliant and sized hands and

4:54

I said i voted in law holding a

4:57

so much I lived up suddenly they're it

4:59

cuts down Got all that the others have

5:01

lots of etti for both of us or

5:03

another. Is. Focus for a

5:05

vase. Genuine. They are. I'm

5:08

quite fascinated to have a conversation with

5:10

him. You. Know a quite a

5:12

long conversation with Eric Cantona on this

5:14

podcast. Both we don't talk about football

5:17

once. I. Think it's genius and

5:19

the guy. Yeah, There

5:21

was also. there was also a warning to say

5:23

that if we do is just get a walkout.

5:26

Allow for a V. It also

5:28

air will oversee of is better

5:30

than. Just saying goodbye. If

5:32

he just sold off to terminate

5:35

sit there and then some load

5:37

of or get it would be

5:39

right. Because because of

5:41

my children. That. but like. It

5:43

so much more difficult. For.

5:46

You'd say and or it tends

5:48

not to have a conversation without

5:50

it naturally going towards football or

5:52

it's. It's. Obscene Lead

5:54

Difficult for you boys. Books

5:57

to not mention it. I

6:00

don't know what we talk about. I'm just thinking

6:02

if I walk past Eric Cantonar in the street,

6:05

said, oh, Eric, how are things? And

6:07

then after I ask him what he's up

6:10

to now, and he's singing, whatever, and it'd

6:13

be difficult to not

6:15

speak about football in the slightest. But

6:18

then again, with Elton John, we spoke

6:20

more about football than we did the music,

6:22

didn't we? So he was much more

6:24

comfortable talking about football than he was his music, yeah. I

6:28

mean, talking of Eric and he's singing, have you

6:30

seen him perform on Michael McIntyre?

6:32

I've not seen it. You've seen it. This was

6:35

a couple of weeks ago. It's

6:37

something. It's incredible. You

6:41

have to watch it. You have to watch it. What music is

6:43

it that he's doing? This is the thing I'd love to be

6:45

having this chat with him. It was

6:47

like a love battle, wasn't

6:49

it? It was a kind of sort

6:51

of low pitch, deep,

6:54

stinking song. But

6:57

without singing? You need to watch it

6:59

to believe it. It's crazy, honestly.

7:02

It's incredible. Have you seen Nick Knowles sing?

7:05

Is it like that? I've not seen him sing. Have

7:07

you seen that Crouchie? No, I haven't seen

7:09

Nick Knowles. You've never heard his version of

7:11

Adele, film I love? Shuffling film

7:14

I love. Joking. Do you

7:16

want a bit? Go on, get

7:18

it out, go on. Give us a blast. Bear with. When

7:44

the rain is blowing in

7:46

your face, and

7:50

the whole world is on your

7:52

case, I

7:55

could offer you a warm

7:58

embrace. The

8:00

make you feel my mouth.

8:05

When they even and Gretel

8:07

zones stalls of these. Are

8:11

no no longer as a draws

8:13

in the old C. o

8:17

More room to. Make

8:22

you feel my. Eyes

8:26

he seen as decent size and.

8:29

Consummated. I go with the music as

8:31

well. like. Susan.

8:33

And is it not so. As panic

8:35

it's How's Annie. He's playing the guitar and sing

8:37

in the yeah yeah. Those. Are

8:39

in. Who knew? He. Had this. Why mean

8:42

I like people that stuff hand and something else for

8:44

their career For sounds like he's put that back home

8:46

of the voice on. The

8:48

read so car into. A

8:51

Foreign. Spangler. Ah

8:54

yeah like us they look far as is on

8:56

these gonna have beeps. Or her

8:58

Dolly Parton and to Do. Their. Doesn't.

9:01

Doesn't sound like a the it doesn't

9:03

sound like he's natural voice that already

9:05

are Us Harrys Province. Quite pretty good.

9:08

As bad the merits of oh so

9:10

what is it Everly? Yeah, He's.

9:12

Or her to be a South Krauss fest

9:14

in a dick else knowing my business or

9:16

song. The. Americans and already

9:18

knows. Oh My. God. Came as

9:20

an Eric can slaughtering crouch fast. I mean,

9:22

that's. That's the thing with love him

9:25

on this put costs so much defeats or

9:27

acing season the privilege. You. Know we

9:29

did a whole episode about. Some. The

9:31

brilliance of Eric Cantona a thing as a

9:33

footballer which you boys agree he's on the

9:36

right to come on a football podcast and

9:38

thoughtful club for so the idea of as

9:40

you will cause is him this I great

9:42

isn't estate sued for this one apologize weapon

9:44

got miss Wastes his sons is up as

9:46

a poll costs and what. You're

9:49

talking about of was who were before are

9:51

going such a car Vorderman to remember. We

9:53

asked about. His.

9:55

Kicks off more me throughout my

9:58

professional career. or Abby? for our

10:00

marriage. And Carol's

10:02

got back with some stats for us. Would you

10:04

like to call them? Please. In

10:07

Carrotty's professional club career, he kicked off a grand

10:10

total of 1,207 times. Pia's

10:13

been with Ab for 20 years. 12

10:16

years of marriage, she's gotten more prolific

10:19

as she had later in their career. So

10:22

assuming before marriage it was once a

10:24

week and factoring in the honeymoon period,

10:27

that would have been 468 times. In

10:30

the latter years, Sam Reno's become more

10:33

prolific, kicking off now twice a day.

10:36

So by factoring in the gradual increase

10:38

in this, we can conclude that since

10:40

being married, Sam Reno's kicked off 3,710,

10:45

giving her a grand total of 4,178 kickoffs, making

10:51

her almost three and a half times

10:53

more prolific than Peter when it comes

10:55

to kicking off. However, this

10:57

is not factoring in Pete's youth career

11:00

or the international breaks. Okay,

11:02

so that's an interesting take on

11:04

it because when

11:06

you're considering whether Ab's

11:09

has kicked off with Pete more

11:11

or less times than Pete's kicked off, should you include

11:13

the youth career as part of that? I

11:17

mean, I wouldn't put the youth career in

11:19

there. The international

11:21

should probably come in there, but

11:23

he's gonna bump that up but nowhere near as

11:25

prolific as Ab's. Even

11:28

if you include those two things, I don't think

11:30

it touches the sides. If you're saying Abi

11:32

kicks off three and a half times more

11:35

than Pete has done even with those

11:37

games, it's not gonna... Yeah, unbelievable stats.

11:41

Yeah, is she in the house at the moment, Pete?

11:43

No, no, that's why I'm discussing it. You

11:45

just look very confident, as you were saying.

11:47

Yeah. I

11:50

just heard the door guy, I thought, right, I'll bring this one up now.

11:53

Has Sam Reno seen this stat? No,

11:56

he hasn't actually. Right, okay. No. I

11:59

think she'd be fine. I'm

12:01

quietly pleased with being privileged. It's unbelievable.

12:03

I think so. Well, okay. Pete,

12:07

it's such a shame Valentine's Day isn't coming up

12:09

because it'd be amazing to write all of this

12:11

in a card and just see how it goes

12:14

down. Yeah. Prolific.

12:16

Absolutely prolific. Fantastic.

12:18

All right. Oh, should we

12:20

get into the pod, lads? Yeah, let's

12:22

do it. Let's do it. Okay,

12:28

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12:30

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12:32

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times roll with that Pete Crouch podcast. So

12:55

today's podcast is player endorsements.

12:58

It's something that, I don't

13:00

know, you don't hear many

13:02

players talk about, really. Obviously, we've

13:04

had boot deals. I think there's

13:06

been adverts and various

13:08

sponsorships, certainly with England as well. The

13:10

FA, I love their sponsors. I

13:13

just wanted to dig down into how

13:16

they work, really, and what they do. It

13:18

is interesting. I remember certainly my agent came

13:20

around to my house when I was 14

13:22

years old. My

13:24

first foray into

13:28

gear or stuff that I was

13:30

given was when he bought

13:33

me with a box of Adidas stuff.

13:35

All the new Adidas gear, a couple of pairs, I had

13:37

a pair of studs, a pair of molds, and he brought

13:39

this box round for me. I was

13:41

like, right, where do I sign? That

13:43

seems to be the first port of call, isn't

13:46

it, of all agents of youngsters now. It's literally

13:48

a case of if you

13:50

want Adidas, if you want Nike, Puma, whatever you want,

13:52

it's a case of, right, we can put you straight

13:54

in contact with him and even bring the goods round.

13:57

I think that's the first. It

14:00

definitely sucks you in. Who

14:02

did you reply? Who was your sponsor? I

14:05

asked them why that's when I was

14:07

ready and I had a little stint

14:09

with Puma. And they took

14:12

us down to the head office and showed you around. They

14:15

partnered up with

14:18

Ferrari, wasn't it? And the F1 as

14:20

well at some point. So it was a

14:23

case of that sort of market coming to

14:25

it as well. But the majority was Adidas.

14:27

Was that the kit manufacturer of Redding

14:30

at the time? Yes. So

14:32

do you all naturally then get signed up

14:34

to that as part of the deal? No.

14:38

So that's a strange one. So you find

14:40

that the brand is selecting certain players? Yeah.

14:42

Because, yeah, they just... Well,

14:45

we had a handful of players

14:47

that could have endorsed

14:49

that. And

14:52

yeah, I'd done it for about two years and I enjoyed it. But

14:54

Adidas was the main ones. My whole career,

14:57

they were the main ones. And they were great. And they

14:59

had everyone as well. But

15:01

when the club is selecting what players... Or is it the

15:03

kit? It was more the brand, isn't it? So when the

15:05

brand is selecting what players at the club they want as

15:07

kind of... I

15:10

guess what represents their

15:12

brand and the club. They're

15:14

picking five players, bit of a cross-section, that kind

15:16

of thing. Do you find that

15:19

other players are a bit pissed off about

15:21

that situation? Or is it just

15:23

unspoken? Yeah, I think it's that unspoken

15:25

rule, isn't it, Crouchy? Even

15:28

my then, where there was probably two or three of

15:30

us that were sponsored by Puma. But we never discussed

15:33

what our deals were because it was obviously individual.

15:35

Then it was down to your agents and your

15:37

PR company to negotiate your terms.

15:39

So we would have all been on probably

15:41

different terms. So you think? Were

15:44

you the most expensive at Reading, do you reckon? Probably

15:47

not. Kevin Doyle was their

15:49

striker. So you may have had every 10 or 15

15:51

goals. But

15:56

yeah, do you get more money if you get the boot in?

16:00

like if you take your boots off when you celebrate and that

16:02

kind of thing and wave it in front of the camera. Well

16:05

yeah, didn't Messi do that in the final?

16:07

Did he take his boot off once? Ronaldo

16:09

did that as well, didn't he? Brazilian Ronaldo.

16:12

I remember those days, I could talk you

16:14

through the contract, certainly when I got... Because

16:16

I never liked... I liked

16:18

wearing my own World Cup until I was about

16:20

23. And then obviously I got in the England

16:22

squad and that and the

16:24

Champions League and obviously that's where the

16:26

eyes are on you massively. And

16:29

that was when all the

16:32

boot feels circulate,

16:34

you try and pick the best one. I remember

16:36

when I got in the England squad, there was

16:38

a toss up between Puma and Umbro. And

16:41

I remember Mike Loewen, Shearer,

16:44

when they were like Umbro, weren't they? Trying

16:46

to think who else? And

16:48

then obviously Puma was the other one I had and

16:50

they were the two big ones. But

16:53

there was a little bit of jealousy, like

16:55

say there's like five or six or seven

16:57

Adidas players in the dressing room

17:00

and say six Nike players in

17:02

the dressing room. Like if someone got

17:04

the boots before someone else

17:06

who was sponsored by the same, there'd be fuming,

17:08

absolutely fuming. It's like where you get in this

17:10

gear from, I've shown you more love than me.

17:12

And there was definitely that kind

17:14

of jealousy and hierarchy in

17:16

regards to it. But certainly when I got in

17:18

the Champions League, it was like it would

17:20

be set out in the contract. If you make

17:22

an appearance in the Champions League, you'd get paid

17:24

a certain amount. If you

17:27

scored a goal in the Champions League, you get

17:29

a certain amount and it would go up every

17:32

kind of round

17:35

you went through. So if you

17:37

got a goal bonus from the brand,

17:39

basically because

17:41

the goal bonus you wouldn't get for

17:43

your club, from your club, like

17:46

you're paid a great wage, you're

17:49

a centre forward, you got to score goals. That's

17:51

part and parcel, you're just expected to do that.

17:54

For a brand point of view, it's

17:56

massive for them. If you score

17:59

or Hi in the Champions

18:01

League or the Woke Up. From.

18:03

Home. When. The contract comes from

18:05

Lite Brite. If you get the fall

18:07

of the Champions league you score in

18:10

court. Finally score to satisfy. Scored a

18:12

final society very lucrative. Who? Who

18:14

apply of food for sponsors at

18:17

a summit. In. Either the

18:19

woke up as you get you know said

18:21

appearances for England that it by than between.

18:23

Say. Zero and her

18:25

parents is would be set them out

18:28

between ten and twenty. Appearances will be

18:30

another about. An hour of the

18:32

scoring would be up would be a bonus on

18:34

top that. Is. This big money.

18:37

Yeah. We know that of the field and

18:39

it's a business in the attendant. Yeah, And

18:42

I know of them. On the other side of

18:44

that come out the other side where was applied

18:46

for England or the other styles and applied in

18:48

less. Kind. Of televised games

18:50

list. Of. High profile games.

18:53

That. Have to That. That. Contract comes

18:55

right down and it's like. It

18:57

will end up in it All that go

18:59

by to for premier league goes. By.

19:02

Would be anything like Will always been a widow of

19:04

time friend. A

19:06

man is the ones that we say

19:08

about the Tv games. Human

19:11

mean. Literally. Post.

19:13

Match interviews plays. For

19:16

on on the page or that more a small

19:18

are dem a always first started but. The.

19:20

Kit Man would always give you to Be

19:22

to always do their Lucas I Bowl crouching

19:25

Yeah I was sponsored by Leukocyte to their

19:27

Be.literally Hope the and in just take a

19:29

few weeks to get the As as they

19:31

would be on a sponsorship with Leukocyte Cigar

19:33

Rice we endorse. You may get. Your

19:36

brand onscreen. Tens. Hundred

19:38

the season will get another X

19:40

Amount says they've forever shoving things

19:42

on you to just get on.

19:45

On. see they look at the keep my life

19:47

when when a player scored a goal if

19:49

you look alike the kit mad or still

19:51

always be someone who's got a job is

19:53

to get the burned outta the it kind

19:55

of like that given like a lukas a

19:57

bottle girls that five hundred quid or grand

20:00

every every kind of every time

20:02

it's shown on the telly ultimately

20:05

to the player or to the kit man no

20:07

to the club it's a bit quite there but i

20:09

think i think the person who tries

20:11

to get it in would definitely get the other some sort of bonus

20:14

yeah they should definitely be on commission

20:17

i wasn't aware of these side missions i

20:19

mean you assume it happens but players

20:21

are always having a drink no interviews they're

20:23

going to be so so

20:26

suspicious moving forward i think

20:28

you know like that's the thing like we if you

20:30

if you see when you do the interviews like i don't

20:33

think it happens as much now that there's so

20:35

much football elsewhere but this is back in a

20:37

day when you know that kind of revenue was

20:40

meant a lot you'd always get given a

20:43

bottle of whatever was the sponsor was

20:45

um usually lucasade back in a day

20:47

and you do your interview with the

20:49

bottle of lucasade hey did you what

20:51

what kind of do you

20:53

remember do you remember any examples of

20:56

these sort of outrageous bonuses that you

20:58

would get for they also find missions

21:00

aren't they if it was yeah

21:02

i mean incentives so every incentive

21:04

isn't it yeah well i like the thing

21:07

is with the incentives like the incentives in the

21:09

pumpkins league became became so

21:11

big like you know you get to a final

21:13

it was like you know every game was i

21:16

mean especially for young lads if you ever see young you

21:18

know somebody young lads on the bench like they

21:21

they're part of the squad and they win a

21:23

game you know i remember a lot

21:25

of the lads it was like darren potter neil meller

21:28

um steve warnek a

21:31

lot of them that were they got through

21:33

to east ambo in 2005 they

21:35

were a lot of them were on the bench um

21:38

if you've seen how buzzy they were every

21:40

single game because those bonuses are like life

21:42

changing you know for for a player on

21:45

a hundred grand a witness you

21:47

know it isn't but to a to

21:50

a young lad who's just coming through i

21:52

mean you're talking you're

21:54

talking big big money you know

21:56

like by by the final

21:59

You're talking. I'm.

22:02

You. Know if you if you win again so

22:04

it's It's like bonuses been so much Sunday so

22:06

young lads and sir because of it is a

22:08

revenue that did itself is league he said or

22:10

a and so big the club sites as reflected

22:12

in the by sister the players. But.

22:15

The brand bonuses are really interesting and by the

22:17

way, I thought you got go bonuses or thought

22:19

that was a saying. Our strikers subtlest of them

22:21

slices to geico bonuses. Well regardless, vomit several. You

22:24

know they put their plates in school, but they

22:26

would still be enough. Rid of him. Ck won't

22:28

be every though it might be right. recount every

22:30

goal but every time you gifts when you get

22:33

the five it's x amount we and ten it's.

22:36

But. The brand bonuses us. I find

22:39

really interesting because right let's say it's

22:41

a drink. Come in and what other

22:43

examples are there if you was your

22:45

robot celebration actually ha ha ha ha.

22:48

To think handful was this a smart

22:50

enough not oversaw other going to say

22:52

or as I listened it was father's

22:55

It was really kind of. It.

22:57

Was really nuts for the time. On

23:00

a stupid visit this still the ban

23:02

started of Halls of. Paid.

23:04

The money to to the ball is

23:07

ends up in quite lucrative or another

23:09

to say realize you there was a

23:11

printout campaign. And Mrs For

23:14

goes obviously a sudden it's a

23:16

printout of for figures or two

23:18

thousand and Six woke up. And

23:21

I was on the bottle or was on the the card

23:23

or rest of. The. Tube. Of.

23:25

Pringles. I was may fabric

23:27

gas. And. Anelka.

23:31

Why? Been bought. be wants Spanish close

23:34

well of V or someone. And

23:36

them. Out the English represents if

23:38

remember we had a big we've done

23:41

a big advert. And Anelka

23:43

Western is that that is Roberta. That. Thing

23:45

and Lp to do. Fabric

23:47

ass. Think. He does

23:49

think he might unless a little the best I

23:52

was. In. A windows or the know

23:54

as to the robot. And

23:56

I'll be rounds on the can do the robot this

23:59

holiday and. The. Rm have club of

24:01

well as opposed Muslims above mean this is

24:03

actually. From. Of part by

24:05

ones have. To. Do with my name

24:07

on of into our view when it was like. It.

24:10

Was that of see that was that was of

24:12

see the robot celebration It was. A

24:14

space. That. For the that

24:17

runs every as it's it's not

24:19

cheap dance if people want it

24:21

said see the robot A plus

24:23

size to sound this pocus is

24:25

everyone The more expensive dances. In.

24:27

The world Now I would say only

24:29

seconds of probably the belie right of

24:32

for themselves Monday yeah my magic One

24:34

series one of the most and but

24:36

the almost a hundred most lucrative dances.

24:39

Zev. Of same. Other

24:42

other other brands saved our lives

24:44

are touches on a rising big

24:47

to say you can see them

24:49

really distinguish football career A Nossa

24:51

own one of the world's most

24:54

expensive dances. As

24:56

many as he paces, he doesn't It. I

24:59

mean, other brands A crouch he

25:01

is is that that he's been

25:03

lucky enough to endorse. We've got

25:06

both real. Lori L. had Beta

25:08

Carphone Warehouse. Of the

25:10

we know we do a lot of Epi

25:12

the power to come on said a bit

25:14

but and in and mns ah yes yeah

25:16

I mean listen they often often loss various

25:19

bits and pieces I remember on the high

25:21

and I give me a call once. Or

25:23

which is a by them are there.

25:26

are a visit it as a pitcher the

25:28

out there some way google up at some

25:30

of said in his cause us high and

25:32

i give the thumbs up. As a of

25:34

live put aside i remember at a concierge

25:36

bottom. Line. They said

25:38

survey artist is rising food prices

25:40

button or them someone to and

25:42

I. Danced Christians

25:45

says that like series for

25:47

inner. Kind of with the Shirley.

25:49

Early two thousand. Five.

25:52

Hundred Series. Of on

25:54

a press the button and V like. A

25:57

month. Ago.

26:00

And you could just ask them

26:02

a question like the internet. Amazing,

26:04

but it was an actual person. Incredible. Unbelievable.

26:09

But yeah, with England

26:11

as well, quite a lot

26:13

of brands. I think I was part of the

26:15

change over there, where David Beckham was generating

26:17

so much money, I think, for the FL.

26:20

I think

26:22

he intervened and said, I think

26:25

we should be paying as players. We're

26:27

kind of generating all this

26:30

revenue. He didn't say himself,

26:32

I think it was Simon Fuller. We had this

26:34

meeting with Simon Fuller, it

26:36

was Victor Rebecca's

26:39

agent at the time. He came in and sat. It was

26:41

just the same Simon Fuller that made S Club. That's

26:43

right. Yeah, yeah. What was the

26:45

one before? Was it Popstars? Okay,

26:48

yeah. The one before X-Facts and

26:50

all that. He's

26:53

supposedly is what

26:55

the S and S Club 7 means. Is

26:58

it really? Simon, yeah. Because I might

27:01

be wrong on this, but I think it's true that he

27:03

set up S Club 7 and

27:06

named it after himself. No way. That's

27:09

unbelievable. Yeah. Well,

27:11

anyway, this fellow, he was obviously

27:13

very, he knew what he was doing. And I think

27:15

that was the change over where

27:17

kind of there was a big shift

27:20

in kind of power from the FL, it

27:22

held all the power to the players, really.

27:25

Because when you talk

27:27

about player power, it was all of a sudden

27:29

we were generating, I suppose, what

27:31

people want to sponsor. And that was the realization.

27:33

And obviously it was Dave Beckman and his team

27:35

kind of understanding that that was the case. Me

27:38

personally, I was just happy to be there. But then

27:41

I remember people

27:43

like National Express, I

27:46

think at the time there was

27:49

maybe Voxel, it might come

27:51

in slightly later. You know,

27:53

you post Green Flag, Nationwide

27:55

Green Flag, these big sponsors

27:57

were coming in. certain

28:01

things you had to do, but you'd

28:03

only have to be there for an hour. And

28:06

for me personally, I remember

28:08

these calls coming in to my agent, it was like,

28:11

oh, so and so, Steven Gerrard can't do

28:13

this National Express one, could you nip down

28:16

there? And I was like, keep them going.

28:19

I was like, I'll do it. I think it was

28:21

like me and Martin Keown that were everything for one

28:23

of them. I was going to say, definitely, Danny, I'll

28:25

know that. I

28:27

remember going over, I think I had to sign

28:30

a bus at National Express Centre, which is opposite

28:32

Twickenham. And obviously this was

28:34

a really kind of well-paid job.

28:37

And I remember sitting there with my mate and

28:39

he lived in Twickenham at the time and the

28:41

National Express bus centre is there, you'd just go

28:43

and sign a bus and send a photo. So

28:46

I was having a beer with my mate, just

28:49

said, I've got to go and do this signing over

28:51

the road. Literally the pub's there and then

28:54

the bus station's there. So he

28:56

said, I'll just wait for you here

28:58

then, shall I? I said, yeah, no worries. So I left

29:00

my plane, kind of went over to find this bus and

29:04

then came back again. And he was like, well,

29:07

that was it. And I was like, yeah. And then

29:09

I just carried on having a beer then. And I was like,

29:12

that's fucking, it's quite lucrative.

29:16

I was

29:19

like, my mate was like, no way. That just

29:21

really just happened. I was like, yeah. Vex

29:24

was the one that started it, wasn't he? Because

29:26

if you actually go back, you remember him, he

29:29

was the first one that really broke the mould. Because

29:32

you remember the picture of him holding so

29:35

many pairs of Azaz predators and

29:37

then he done the brill cream, didn't he? With

29:39

obviously his hair. And it sort

29:41

of started everyone off on

29:44

an individual brand endorsement, wasn't

29:47

it? Yeah. And I think with that,

29:49

and it was in his dock and

29:51

we've spoken about it, was

29:53

obviously the reaction, the manager to

29:55

the changes that was happening through

29:58

Beckham With the players in that. Team

30:00

and that so fix of up

30:02

slightly older school I guess I'm

30:05

and it and. You. Guys been

30:07

at the front of that. It was really

30:09

interesting hearing about Alex Ferguson and how he

30:11

kind of reacted to and probably. Didn't.

30:14

Like it didn't like his impact on backs

30:16

at some point at what Backs was lying

30:18

about going down to London I'm did you

30:20

kind of have the same and same with

30:22

uses digit? Did either of you boys have

30:25

the same where. You. Will be

30:27

so. Same manages that was struggling for

30:29

kind the keep up with the weirdness

30:31

of signing buses and that's all I

30:33

think. I think it's been totally embraced

30:35

nowadays. The Light: It's kind of Paul

30:38

Paul Slover. people have

30:40

in. People. Magazine as did

30:42

the Players Social Media's i'm in a

30:44

kind of the brand stuff it's kind

30:46

of hot possible by I was in

30:48

that kind of cross over a period

30:50

where it was like to constantly football

30:52

and don't. Don't. Don't get

30:54

carried away with all this nonsense that's

30:56

happening at he was called month since

30:59

passed by now. You know it's

31:01

it's I think everyone knows you see even

31:03

yard and clump of don't see them on

31:05

the is quite a few kind of ads.

31:07

recently sunday with his earning a beer and

31:09

some flak gaudy artist on the other maria

31:12

was were always Tennessee business the on even

31:14

the managers kind of embrace to get out

31:16

exists. It's it's it's it's It's very very

31:18

lucrative for. For. Everyone all concerned.

31:20

Really nothing cab. It's as well as

31:22

the strength of will. Ice and I

31:24

pay isn't they? Can you imagine some

31:26

of Oh the Managers. In

31:29

I've been doing the same same types of

31:31

advert. C C manages to how you know

31:33

it's it's probably turn down over the years

31:35

so they would. I was Liverpool and you

31:37

knowing than than things are intent on so

31:39

many things ways and you know it be.

31:42

If the great stove can I get away

31:44

with it it out. It's like a fine

31:46

balance between. Can you get away

31:48

with it or you know, are you

31:50

gonna look like you say to dry

31:52

off the ball quite often it was

31:54

his sunset. such a fine line at

31:56

a Sony kind of afterwards that. They'll.

31:59

Fun! Of. a lot more than

32:01

I did when I was playing. You

32:04

talk about fine lines and getting away with it,

32:06

obviously big relationship yourself

32:08

with Paddy Power, friends

32:11

of the pod, they do

32:13

cross the line on a few things in a

32:15

good way. Has there

32:17

been things that you've had to turn down or to

32:19

go like, I can't do that or they've asked you

32:21

to do things but you just go absolutely no. Well,

32:24

honestly, some of the things they come

32:26

up with, like I remember speaking to,

32:29

obviously we've added on

32:31

the pod, the Minister of Mayhem or

32:33

one of his title along

32:35

those lines, that's actually on

32:37

his email. And it's like so

32:39

and so, Minister of Mayhem is

32:41

like his job title and he'll

32:44

come up with things and you'd be like, I'm

32:47

not sure I can do that. And he's like,

32:50

yeah, no worries, we'll try something else.

32:52

But some of the ideas that they come

32:54

up with and things like I'm like, I

32:56

don't know if they're so close to

32:58

the bone at times, but that's

33:00

what makes them so good. Because they

33:03

are their funny, funny adverts and that's

33:05

why whenever I do something like I

33:07

want to be involved in the creative

33:09

process of it, whatever

33:14

I've done, I've always tried to be

33:16

across what it's actually going

33:18

to be. I don't just

33:20

sign the contract and go, I will,

33:23

yeah, I'm going to do this and how much are you going

33:25

to pay me? I want to be across what

33:27

it's actually going to look like because I think it

33:30

needs to be a reflection

33:33

of me. I think that's why

33:35

all the things I've seen, the things you've noted down

33:38

there like Bovril, certainly the Ted

33:40

Baker stuff. The Ted Baker stuff that I did was

33:43

basically like they were bringing out a full range and

33:45

I was like, well, that's Ram,

33:47

my ally, surely. The

33:50

Bovril stuff was just a lot of

33:52

fun. I love Bovril. I've

33:54

drank it since I was a kid. That's

33:56

very good. It's fun though when it's personal

33:58

like that. And I get what you're saying

34:00

about the Paddy Power ads. And also your

34:02

dad was sort of in this industry. And

34:04

so I think you've always got, my perspective

34:06

of yours, you've always got a really good

34:08

eye with this stuff. And then, but

34:12

you do get involved in the whole creative thing.

34:14

Like a recent advert

34:16

was with Barry

34:18

from EastEnders actually being

34:21

married to your wife. That's a

34:24

brilliant idea. We all love that. But

34:26

I think where it gets really fun for you

34:30

it must be when it gets

34:32

really personal because like if you love

34:34

both for all, to be able to

34:36

get paid to endure, that's where this shit gets

34:38

really fun. We're lucky we get to do that

34:40

with this podcast to a certain extent as well.

34:43

And we've had loads obviously on the podcast. It's

34:47

been amazing obviously making our own beer, potentially

34:49

trying to make our own sprays. That

34:51

was the one with my mom for

34:53

instance, obviously me and Abi are like MNS ambassadors.

34:56

And like that, when my mom found out

34:58

about it, I actually was like more proud than

35:00

I think I've ever done. It was like, oh

35:02

my God, this is incredible. So

35:05

that was obviously a good thing. I think it's

35:07

got to work kind of

35:09

for both parties. Otherwise it doesn't work

35:12

because people can see right through something

35:15

that you're forcing. Well,

35:17

look, you must've seen your colleagues do some funny

35:19

adverts as well. And Sid, what kind

35:21

of, has there been anything that you've been involved

35:23

in where you were doing it and thinking this

35:26

is a bit weird? I mean, you haven't quite

35:28

done the mic alone in a helicopter

35:30

yet. Have you? No,

35:32

no. I'd love to see one of you boys do that. Yeah. Have

35:35

you ever seen the Man United one, the wine? The

35:38

wine wine, yeah, it was brilliant. I

35:40

thought of my favorites and Jamie

35:42

Vardy's Thailand trip one was

35:44

good. Do you remember the, Casas

35:48

Diablo or something it's called, the Man

35:50

United one. Did you remember

35:52

the, was it Garif's, was it Pizza Hut?

35:54

Was it Garif's Southgate when he missed the

35:56

penalty in a bag on his head? Yeah.

36:00

The brown paper bag. Yeah.

36:03

It's legendary, isn't it? Looking

36:06

back on it, you must have got paid a bit of dough for

36:08

that. I think when

36:10

they get it right, and the adverts

36:12

are good, especially during big tournaments, Euros

36:15

or World Cup tournaments, it's

36:19

so good because they clearly pump a load of

36:21

money into it. There's

36:23

some amazing adverts that happen around that

36:25

time. I even think about the old...

36:28

Did you ever see the Jason Scotland, Iron Brew

36:30

advert? Did

36:34

you boys ever see this? This is a real deep

36:36

cut from back in the day. And

36:40

it was a play called Jason Scotland. The idea

36:42

was Scotland's going to the World Cup. It's him

36:44

on a bus. And

36:46

drink an Iron Brew. It's such a

36:48

basic advert. I really

36:50

hope someone listening to this knows

36:53

what this advert is. But there's

36:55

some legendary adverts that come, especially

36:58

if the brands are willing to spend the money. Obviously,

37:01

you see the obscene, added-ass

37:03

Nike adverts with a plethora

37:05

of players. And you

37:09

wonder how they actually get all these people

37:11

in one space and do it. They're all

37:13

good those ones. I love them. But I

37:15

do like the piss-take ones. When

37:17

you do have a high-budget one, do you remember

37:19

the Nike one with Brazil Squad,

37:22

when the airport... That was a belt.

37:24

But they also run it. Brilliant. There's

37:27

been some awesome ones. I've never been on

37:30

an advert. So,

37:32

you say it, like, play-in-wise, profile

37:35

was never like where Pete was.

37:38

You know, the Champions League and top, top

37:40

level. So, never really got

37:42

involved in brands or never really got

37:44

a profile. Was there none at the clubs? You

37:47

know, like sometimes the clubs make you

37:49

do something. So, the Chelsea one, that

37:52

was big. We've done a one for Samsung.

37:55

That Chelsea... I'll tell you the story about that. You

37:57

said about going there and you didn't get off

37:59

the bus. So you'd been given yeah,

38:01

yeah did the AI was getting 75 inch

38:03

plasmas and I know it's like a DVD

38:05

player about a remote control That was fuming.

38:07

I never forget that it was out of

38:09

all the fucking things you've ordered

38:12

a DVD player Yeah,

38:15

there was things at clubs it'd be interesting to

38:17

see now what? People

38:20

get like Man City is sponsored by is

38:22

it Etihad that light or

38:25

bright and are sponsored by British Airways Whether

38:27

they could flight bloody expensive now,

38:29

aren't they? No, no, it's not

38:32

it's not the Harrods card though. Is it from

38:34

Alf I had it's not the Harrods card

38:36

No, yeah, that was a nice one about that.

38:39

Yeah, they I just got the last sort of 18

38:42

months of that 40 40 percent off

38:44

of the off of Harrods Yeah,

38:46

they were nice. I mean I would like I would like

38:49

to few more maybe individual ones I

38:53

Don't know ginger nut biscuits maybe

38:55

or but that's that's what we're

38:57

here for now. I Mean

39:02

we we need to look up we need to look

39:04

at all of this stuff. So I remember getting a

39:06

Rover as well I remember getting a Rover Villa

39:10

they were sponsored by Rover MG and

39:12

Rover I remember

39:14

getting a Rover was quite quite nice actually Did

39:18

you all think was that one when you have

39:20

it's like on the side of the car as

39:22

well I remember players getting in there are the

39:24

responses Peter Crouch on the side of the car.

39:26

Oh Right. Well, I

39:28

remember my mate. My mate was a snooker player not

39:30

on this level My mate was a snooker player at

39:32

his name on the side of his car Your

39:36

car It's a strange one that isn't

39:38

it? I'm the side of the car

39:41

Yeah, have you seen have you seen

39:43

any players that it's had a real kind

39:45

of I Don't know

39:47

but it almost they get carried away with

39:50

it It becomes less of a

39:52

novelty and it's distracted and you've seen

39:54

them get rained in No,

39:57

really They keep it a

39:59

lot of under under wraps. I

40:01

think the biggest grief that people used to

40:03

get is you know when you see those

40:06

kind of like, you know, there was a

40:08

period of okay shoots, okay

40:11

and hello. Like, oh

40:13

my god someone agrees she'd get if you'd done

40:15

like an at home. It's

40:18

fake isn't it? It's

40:20

just stage, it's not natural.

40:22

At home pics with you

40:25

and the wife. Being lads

40:27

used to get a lot of stick to that. Do

40:29

you know what the f*** is? You do these ones

40:31

Pete. Since I've retired I

40:33

think I've done one. When

40:35

we renewed our vows we did a few photos. But,

40:40

do you know why they come in? Do you know why

40:42

they come under some stick? Because

40:44

it's a stylist that goes in and says right this

40:46

is what you're wearing and it's something

40:49

that you just completely wouldn't wear. And

40:52

you're like, it's lava isn't it? The

40:55

amount of times that OK got brought in

40:57

if someone had had a little photoshoot. I

41:01

was like, hold on a minute, have a look at this,

41:03

have a look at the clobber on him. He's

41:06

got no shoes on, he's got no shoes

41:08

on and like a white linen with some

41:11

white trousers strolling

41:13

around like the beach or something. That's exactly

41:16

what I did recently but I wasn't playing

41:18

so I don't want to bring it up.

41:21

What would happen would you go into the

41:23

dressing room and a player would be reading

41:25

the magazine? I'll stand and

41:27

be plastered everywhere. Have you

41:29

seen that show Married to the Game? Yeah. Do

41:32

you know what? I've seen the advert for it. I

41:34

know a few people involved. It's

41:37

incredible isn't it? It's close to the

41:39

line isn't it? Correct

41:43

me if I'm wrong but I'm guessing the wives

41:46

or the girlfriends have signed up to the

41:48

TV show and then by

41:50

proxies I don't think they

41:52

perhaps get given all the information.

41:55

The lads are on this. And

41:59

it's wild. some of the stuff they're

42:01

saying. Is it? I haven't

42:03

seen it. Yeah, I have. I've seen the

42:05

Tarkovsky one. That's done the rounds, wasn't it? I saw that. I can't stop talking

42:07

about it, can I? I mean, that is got to be getting stick for that.

42:09

Surely he's got to be going the next day. And then I don't know how

42:11

you get through that. Like, go have some thick skin there, haven't you? Who else

42:13

is in it? So you've got Tarkovsky, No-Haves, Garby, Garby, Garby,

42:17

Garby, Garby, Garby,

42:20

Garby, Garby, Garby,

42:23

Garby, Garby, Garby,

42:27

Garby, Garby, Garby, Garby,

42:30

valuable group, Garby. Nav...

42:33

Marzel. Marzel.

42:35

But how much say...? Like what I find

42:37

interesting about this is, you think the

42:40

manager should have an element of control

42:42

over how much attention

42:44

or anything goes on players. And definitely that

42:46

control existed a lot more back in the

42:48

day. And as you're saying,

42:50

Pete, maybe that's relaxed so much now. The

42:52

club is doing it now. Like, the club is constantly doing it now, like

42:56

every club seems to be doing it like Amazon,

42:59

you know, all or nothing documentary.

43:02

So the cameras are around through

43:05

the clubs anyway. So it's like, you

43:07

know, they've gone to the days where Alex Ferguson's running

43:10

the club, doesn't let anyone in. You

43:12

know, no cameras in and no players

43:14

to be doing shoot days and this and

43:16

that. You know, because quite often, our

43:19

members speak to Rafa about it's like,

43:21

days off are given as

43:24

days off. You're supposed to rest and recuperate.

43:26

That's the reason you're giving. You're not giving

43:28

a day off. So you can do a

43:30

media day and, you know, go

43:33

down to London and spend hours on your feet

43:35

doing an advert. That's not why

43:38

the day off was given. You know what I mean? And

43:40

I suppose now that's just part of the course.

43:43

I mean, if you could, if brands are going to come in for

43:45

you now, what would you be

43:47

up for? Yeah, but it's a

43:49

different situation. Like I occasionally work

43:52

with brands on things and maybe

43:54

are DJing an event

43:56

or, I don't know, if it's the right

43:58

thing you do something on social media. I

44:01

think there's just something very different about how

44:03

it is as a footballer. I've been involved

44:05

in some of the weirdness. I once had

44:07

to do... A job came

44:09

in, they were like, can you host... We run

44:11

to a version of the Great British Bake

44:13

Off with... What

44:19

was it with? With Alonso

44:21

and Azpilicueta.

44:25

And so I go to this place and

44:27

it's decked out like the Great British Bake Off

44:29

and I'm Paul Hollywood or something for reasons I

44:31

still don't really understand. These

44:34

poor lads that have brought in for

44:36

an hour to bake cakes, you

44:39

know, it's bizarre.

44:41

But yeah, I've done a couple of those.

44:43

Remember, Chris, me and you went to Microsoft,

44:45

the opening of the new Microsoft store. Oh,

44:47

we did. Yeah, we did. And we played

44:49

FIFA with Raheem Sterling. It

44:51

was the whole thing's bizarre. We sat there playing FIFA

44:53

and Raheem Sterling. I wasn't even aware that we were

44:55

doing that. No,

44:58

it was confusing around. And also what made that

45:00

extra brilliant was we were playing with a team

45:02

of 11 Peter

45:05

Crouch's. They sort

45:07

of designed it. Do

45:10

you remember that? Yeah, yeah. One of

45:12

the most bizarre experiences ever. That was another

45:14

one. I just remembered

45:16

one there. I ended up refereeing

45:20

a game of FIFA from my

45:22

bedroom. Steven

45:25

Bergwein versus Mason

45:27

Mount when he was at Chelsea. And

45:31

I was basically commentating and refereeing

45:33

it. I have

45:35

no idea how that even came about.

45:38

Yeah, bizarre. Okay,

45:41

so what about youngsters that's going to come

45:43

into the dressing room? Seeing a few, especially

45:45

in football, because you get like, what

45:48

would it be like, the latest after the

45:50

aftershave or maybe shaving cream, isn't it? It'd

45:52

be the older ones that would be shaving

45:54

first. Then it's all of a Solomon, Mason

45:56

Mount when he sort of burst on the

45:58

scene. like he didn't even

46:01

have a hair on his face and now he's

46:03

I mean doing the old sweep.

46:08

It's the one you constantly see in it

46:11

like on the Sky Sports News or

46:13

something like that. It's like Raheem Sterling was doing

46:16

the raise of the Gillette one for

46:18

years ages when it was on for

46:20

and the show. I wonder how they

46:22

film them. What do you mean? Well

46:24

because Sterling's only got one take there. Do

46:27

you see what I mean? If you're doing a show once

46:29

he's gone he's gone. That's what I'm saying like and then

46:31

you have to like lather up the other side and then

46:33

go maybe

46:35

it's a good one. I've always wondered with them

46:38

but why is it always footballers and shaving? Same.

46:41

Do you remember when the Liverpool team had a load

46:43

of them it was like the deodorant mob wasn't it?

46:45

They were spraying. Yeah I did one

46:47

with L'Oreal. I did it it

46:50

was like the wingman

46:53

saying it was great actually but I

46:56

remember filming it in my I had to

46:59

kind of film on myself during

47:01

Covid and I was in

47:03

my bathroom putting on some cream and

47:06

and I think my daughter was filming it from

47:08

the side and I

47:11

had to get it in like just

47:13

because I'm worth it. And

47:18

I felt like if I'm doing L'Oreal I might I'm

47:20

never going to get this opportunity again to say it's

47:23

because I'm worth it and I

47:26

did. That was a proud moment.

47:29

Strange confusing moment for your child

47:32

though. They're filming an advert. Shout

47:36

out to Thingwatch here as I talk. I'm

47:39

just thinking now if I've been in dressing rooms

47:41

where there's been sort of scandals as well where

47:44

well if something happens off or

47:46

even something like major on the on the

47:49

pitch I guess you

47:51

can lose those brand deals. Yeah we've

47:55

seen it with drop

48:00

some of these sponsors or if

48:03

you're a high profile person that's that's when brands want you

48:05

right but if you're a high profile person you're there

48:08

to be shot at as well and brought

48:10

down a peg or two and no one's perfect

48:12

are they so these things are always going to

48:14

happen. No but have you does

48:17

it ever make a situation where brands tell

48:19

you how they want you to behave

48:21

as a footballer so you almost have

48:23

a sort of manager from the brand

48:26

have you ever been hold off by

48:28

Adidas for example. Yeah I've

48:30

had loads of tellings off because I basically wear

48:32

the old boots like I'm one of those people

48:34

that you know they bring out a

48:36

new boot every every month feels

48:39

like and I was always like I've

48:41

just got into this boot I'm just getting this one

48:44

I'm happy I'm comfortable with it now and

48:46

then there's a fucking new one and

48:48

I was constantly wearing the old ones and then

48:51

I'd score and I just get a call on

48:53

the Monday like you're in the old boot just

48:55

score you're in the old boot and

48:57

by the end I was just like I don't

48:59

care I mean I like my football is more

49:01

important to me and I know there is people

49:03

out there kind of portraying this is what kind

49:05

of pissed me off with football in general really

49:07

towards the end people

49:10

portraying this kind of image

49:12

that isn't them you know like you

49:14

see so many players we were in

49:16

that dressing room says well we're stoked

49:18

like you'd see players promoting themselves and

49:20

doing like Instagram videos of them working

49:22

behind the scenes with personal trainers and

49:25

you'd be like this is all the fucking acts it

49:28

was just so frustrating and

49:30

then and you know there's obviously someone like

49:32

come in and gone right you need to do this

49:34

you need to do that on Instagram and

49:37

this is where this whole back stronger came

49:40

from you know on our podcast it

49:42

was like people promoting after a

49:44

game oh you know fans were terrific

49:47

sorry about the performance we'll be back stronger

49:49

next week it was the generic kind

49:51

of Instagram message and then the next day

49:54

on the Monday it be them you

49:56

know with a personal trainer showing how

49:58

hard they're working you know out

50:00

of the training ground, you're like, it's all bollocks.

50:03

I want a load of bollocks. And

50:05

you're like, the worst thing is you

50:07

see fans replying, going like, oh, you

50:09

should be playing. And

50:13

I've watched you chain, and

50:15

you've been on absolute shambles, and

50:17

your attitude stinks, you have

50:19

cancer around the place, and you

50:21

promote yourself as if you're like, you

50:24

should be playing, the reason you're not playing is because your

50:26

attitude is a disgrace. Good rant.

50:29

Well done. Good rant. Would

50:34

have happened in my day. I'm gonna

50:36

get that in the comment underneath the

50:38

video, wouldn't you? But I get what

50:40

you're saying. The worst ones are the

50:42

worst ones are when lads wear absolute

50:44

terrible boots or gear, and

50:47

they just literally grin and bank in it

50:49

because... Do you think it's disappointing to see

50:51

players all wearing the same boots? Like, wasn't

50:53

there something quite nice about being able to

50:56

pick your own? Brands, they're monopolizing the market,

50:58

the new prints that come out, for instance,

51:00

it comes out in this certain colour, they

51:03

want all their players to wear that same

51:05

with Nike. It happens especially when the tournaments

51:07

come round, the Euros or the World

51:09

Cups, when they come round, but

51:11

the boots, they'll start getting brighter and brighter in

51:13

colours. I remember

51:16

them saying, some of the players,

51:18

like you say there, they thought

51:20

the boots were absolutely disgusting, and

51:22

they think they're getting paid so much money,

51:25

you kind of have to wear them. But

51:28

I just couldn't do that. I have to like the

51:30

boot because I have to feel good in it, and

51:32

I have to feel comfortable in it. I feel like

51:34

it would have affected my game. Some players

51:36

are just... It's like a business.

51:38

It's like not bothered. Yeah,

51:41

but it is a business. From what

51:43

you're saying, the incentives are so huge.

51:46

Equally, is this where you see a rise? I think

51:49

it's fair to say there's been a rise rather than...

51:51

I don't think this happened so much, you

51:53

know, 20 years ago, 30 years ago, of

51:57

players all having to have

51:59

their own number. and it'd be a sort of

52:01

extreme number. So that's

52:03

their number and their

52:06

brand. It's not just one

52:08

or two anymore. So many,

52:10

isn't it? My thing

52:12

was, certainly when I was growing up, I

52:14

always remember like Match and Shoot magazine, and

52:16

there'd be like a picture of a photoshoot

52:18

of Ryan Giggs, and he'd have like the

52:20

Reebok tracksuit on, the Reebok trainers, and he'd

52:22

be holding like the Reebok boots.

52:26

And I was like, oh, one day I'm going to get to that level

52:29

and I'm going to be in Match, and I'm going to

52:31

be like in the gear, holding

52:33

the boots up. That was always like

52:35

a name of mine. I used to love Match

52:37

and Shoot magazine. I think

52:40

90 minutes out of a magazine, I

52:42

remember buying a Giggs 11 magazine once.

52:45

Yeah, unless I'm

52:47

imagining it, I'm sure. I

52:49

also remember, and this is

52:52

a strange one, getting on

52:54

my wall, I used to say, I

52:56

used to wire my parents up so much, that

52:58

any spare football stickers you add, so

53:01

any swapsies that weren't really valuable enough,

53:03

just sort of the common ones, I'd

53:06

just go stick them on the wall and stick them on the door and that.

53:09

Obviously, it destroys the paint, doesn't it? It

53:11

just covered my walls in these things.

53:13

And a couple of posters as well that

53:15

you'd get from Shoot or Match. And I

53:17

remember having a double, it was the Neville

53:20

Brothers, sort of arms crossed

53:22

back to back. Picture the Neville Brothers

53:24

on my wall. I know that photo shoot. I

53:27

know that photo shoot.

53:29

I know that one. I was

53:31

a football pervert then. So I

53:33

remember most of the posters, I

53:36

remember quite a lot of the photo

53:38

shoots and things like that. I just absolutely

53:40

love it. Because I loved kind of stuff.

53:43

I knew every single player in the Premier

53:45

League, what boots they wore, or who they

53:47

were sponsored by. I

53:49

just love all that. Do you remember what

53:51

posters you had on your wall? Um,

53:55

Kelly Brook. Yeah. Kelly

53:57

Brook! Football, football. Well done.

54:00

Once we're here, see you had

54:02

football posters. I had

54:04

a Lara Croft

54:06

one, by the way. She's

54:08

not even real, for fucks sake. Not

54:10

even an actress. I had a poster

54:12

on my wall right, which was a

54:14

3D picture of Lara Croft. So

54:18

it was massive. So

54:20

you could only see it by wearing the red

54:22

and blue glasses. I remember

54:24

my poor mum came in one day

54:26

and I was sat there looking at

54:28

a picture with my red and blue

54:30

glasses. She's thinking, what have I produced

54:32

here? Well,

54:36

well, I'm not the only one in between

54:38

this one. He has gone dead and he

54:40

can't turn the laptop off. I mean, I

54:42

wasn't there just to be clear. Again, before

54:44

I found another podcast, I'm having to claim,

54:46

you know, I wasn't. But all

54:50

the same, it's not what you want to see

54:52

from your child. Just red and blue glasses. I'm

54:54

staring at a picture of an animated. It's my

54:56

real, my real. So

55:32

Crouchy over 35s World

55:34

Cup. Possibility of this

55:36

being done in the summer in Newcastle, the

55:38

city of love. It's even a

55:41

side of a tournament,

55:43

I believe, from all the

55:45

nations that have won the World Cup.

55:47

So me and Crouchy were involved in

55:50

a WhatsApp group that Steve McManaman started up.

55:52

I think this has got some legs. I

55:55

think, yeah, for the players that play, who

55:57

have been mentioned, like playing, it'd be. top

56:00

players and I think he'll be really competitive like

56:02

all the boys will want to be involved and

56:05

want to win it as well. So

56:07

I think it's a great idea. Who's

56:10

in the WhatsApp group? So I was

56:12

playing golf and I was these phones

56:15

going berserk and I was like what's going

56:17

on here? So I was looking at and

56:19

there was the names in this WhatsApp group

56:21

like Steve McManaman started it, Mike Clomon was

56:23

in there, Joe Cole, Rio, David

56:27

James, Crouchy, myself,

56:29

Joe Lescott, Paul Scolz was in there. It

56:31

was just and I was like first of

56:33

all my first thought was what am I

56:36

even doing in this group? I

56:38

don't even belong in this group.

56:41

And then yeah there was a few people

56:43

throwing a few memes out stretching already because

56:45

I think this has got some it's

56:47

an England call up. Yeah, I

56:50

mean if it goes ahead it's

56:52

gonna be incredible. I mean look these are some of

56:54

the nations. I've not heard of this. Sorry, what is

56:56

this? This is an over 35. It's

56:58

an over 35. First year it

57:01

happens, World Cup, the nations that have

57:03

won it so we've got listed here

57:06

England, Argentina, Brazil, France, Germany, Italy,

57:08

Spain, Uruguay and just some of

57:10

the names here again. Cambiazzo,

57:12

Crespo, Zabileza from Argentina,

57:14

Emerson, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo, Caffu, Roberto,

57:17

Carlos from Brazil, France, Sierra

57:19

and Reed, Dessie, Erzul

57:23

from Germany, Mattarazzi,

57:25

Canavaro, Totti from Italy. I mean if

57:27

they get it going hey here just

57:30

be messing with me. I'm gonna get

57:33

absolutely spanked. Is

57:36

this competitive? Is

57:39

this fun? It will be yeah or not?

57:41

This will be competitive. It goes

57:44

ahead. Yeah

57:47

and there's something I guess really nice

57:49

about feeling that you can

57:51

be retired from the game right Pete and

57:53

be able to play in. Do you

57:55

know what I mean? I imagine it will probably be

57:57

crowded as well. be

58:00

exciting to be kind of feel like

58:02

you're back involved in it in games

58:04

that matter. Is there an

58:06

upper limit to the age? I'm just thinking

58:08

over 35 there's decent 35, not

58:11

that you boys aren't there, but do you know what I mean? There's still

58:13

people playing. I'm even looking at Pepe

58:15

the other day. Do you see him? 41. He was running the

58:17

whole time, like

58:21

the passion. Yeah, yeah. I

58:24

mean, yeah, look, there's no limit. It can go to

58:29

35 onwards. I mean, it's

58:32

sounding like it's got some legs

58:34

in it. Hopefully it can become

58:37

fruitful, because that would be brilliant. Start off and

58:39

then carry that on. But like Pete says there,

58:41

it would be like

58:43

the players will be up for it. I

58:46

think we've got time for a quick message.

58:48

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58:50

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enough any questions, any way you want to

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get involved in this podcast. We love hearing

59:09

from you. This is a message from someone

59:11

called T. It says, lads,

59:14

what's the definition of an appearance

59:16

for its account against the appearance

59:18

bonus? Is there a minimum time

59:20

in a match or does coming on as a sub

59:23

at the last minute count as an appearance?

59:25

I've wondered that. Yeah. I think

59:28

this differs, doesn't it, from club

59:30

to club. I think at the start, back in

59:32

the day and up to a point more

59:35

recently, I think it was all the same. Because

59:39

managers are throwing players on,

59:41

obviously, with what goes on in the game. But

59:44

then obviously from a financial point of view, it's

59:48

upstairs looking to go in there, throwing this player on for

59:50

two minutes at the end or even 60 seconds, and they're

59:52

going to be getting the same win bonus

59:54

as all the others. So then it

59:56

come down to if you come on with 15 minutes

59:58

to go. or if you

1:00:00

come on before the 75th minute, you

1:00:03

get allocated the full bonus. If you

1:00:05

come on after the 75th minute, last

1:00:07

15, you'll be getting a fraction of the win

1:00:09

bonus. Is that right, Pete? Like from the club?

1:00:12

Yeah, I've been listening. I always remember, there were

1:00:14

a couple of lads coming on and

1:00:18

the manager putting on her young lad on at the end

1:00:20

of a game when you've won it already and kind

1:00:22

of that young lad being absolutely buzzing. You can

1:00:24

tell. They used to have him quite a bit.

1:00:28

Whereas I wouldn't be able to tell

1:00:30

you now. I just assumed that a

1:00:32

win bonus is... I remember actually,

1:00:34

towards the end of my Premier League career, it was

1:00:36

even if you're on the bench, the

1:00:39

matchday squad got the bonus. So

1:00:41

it's like, we're all a team, we're all part of it. I

1:00:44

guess it's the same, though, that excitement

1:00:46

for away from the bonus, just getting

1:00:48

that cap. I say this as

1:00:50

you've got... How many

1:00:53

England caps behind you there, Pete? Yeah, there's

1:00:55

30 there, but

1:00:57

there's 12 upstairs. It

1:00:59

didn't go with a Feng Shui, 42. Didn't

1:01:03

want to break into a third frame, did you?

1:01:05

Yeah, well, I think we are doing it, but

1:01:08

I think I've lost a few. So they're upstairs,

1:01:10

so I'm actually in a process of writing to

1:01:12

the FA to try and get a few more.

1:01:14

They said it'd be fine, so just

1:01:16

the ones that are missing. That's

1:01:19

amazing. So if you contact the FA trying to get

1:01:21

those caps, do you have to give proof that you

1:01:23

played? Like, do you personally have to send over clips

1:01:25

of you playing in those days? I'm pretty sure the

1:01:27

proof's out there. I think the FA know more than

1:01:29

fucking I know. But

1:01:32

yeah, no, I'm really proud of them, to be fair. Abs

1:01:34

had this kind of... The office kind

1:01:37

of put round, they're in a different way, it looks

1:01:39

good, but they're right behind me now. And

1:01:41

that's actually my book, my first

1:01:43

book beyond they're mounted

1:01:45

on. Look, T, hopefully that

1:01:48

answers your question. And

1:01:50

yeah, any questions like that. We cover

1:01:53

so much about football on this podcast

1:01:55

that I think sometimes just

1:01:57

getting some of those basic questions, those...

1:02:00

Those things, the

1:02:02

boys can clarify it. So always feel

1:02:04

free to get in touch. Peter.crouchatacast.com. We

1:02:08

keep getting sent these 11s every week. This

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has been a thing that we now do.

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I think every episode of this podcast is

1:02:15

a different theme. People always decide the themes

1:02:17

for themselves, which is amazing.

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Which one would you like to feature

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today, Pete? Well, yeah, you know, obviously

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like off the back of Liam Pitchford

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being an ambassador of our podcast, there

1:02:28

was an Olympics 11 here

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from Alex. Jack

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shot Putland. Yeah,

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the right back here is Luke Sailing, obviously.

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Célobac's got a Maynard Figaroa

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skating. Figaroa

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skating, sorry. Purvis

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Estrupinion. Equestupinion,

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sorry. Hello,

1:02:57

Purvis Equestupinion. Very nice,

1:02:59

Pungfister. Ryan Babble

1:03:01

Tennis. Ryan

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Babble Tennis. Well,

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Nathan Mountain Biking. Emil

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Smith-Rowing. Enjoy that

1:03:12

one. Raheem Kirling. Nice

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little Winter Olympics one. Gary Dias,

1:03:17

Cameron Archery. This

1:03:20

is great. Badmingsong.

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I think he's like, that's just right

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on paper, badmingsong. Wow,

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that's a good one there.

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Okay, Beach Volleyball-Watson's. Ryan

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Yates-Bording. Kyle

1:03:40

Water-Polos. Shane

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Long-Jump. That's more like

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it. 100-meter crouch.

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Nice. Hal Robson-Carno. Fucking

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do. Great, yeah. That's good.

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Obviously, you've missed it. So,

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we'll have to... I think the

1:04:00

two we've done before, I think you've got

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Steve Skeedwell of course, for the

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Winter Olympics and Steve Swentwell for

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the summer. Oh

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my God. So

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what's the latest with Liam Pitchford

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then? Do we know, Pete, has he been in

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contact yet? Well this is the one I do, it looks like Pete

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and Grapp. I think the

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guys have been in touch and

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we're hoping that he's going to say

1:04:28

yes, actually funny on the

1:04:30

endorsements episode here. Hopefully he'll

1:04:32

be an Olympic ambassador for

1:04:34

the podcast this year. Well

1:04:38

look, sorry to know Eric Antonard today. Hopefully

1:04:40

he will be back stronger for one

1:04:42

of the better frees soon and be

1:04:46

interested to see when that can be. But

1:04:49

yeah, hopefully soon. Hopefully you've enjoyed this episode.

1:04:52

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