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I am happy to bring you a conversation with Nelsie Yang, who is a candidate for City Council in Saint Paul’s Sixth Ward, which covers the large northern part of the East Side. Yang is a community organizer who is advocating for economic sustainability, affordable housing, and better public safety on the East Side. We sat down the other day at Caydence Coffee and Records on Payne Avenue to chat about her campaign, her background, and her vision for the neighborhood. I hope you enjoy the conversation, and don’t forget to vote on November 5th. This podcast is sponsored by the Saint Paul flag. Since 1932, the Saint Paul flag has been subtly symbolizing the great city of Saint Paul. With its distinctive primary colors and significant design, the Saint Paul flag means pretty good things when you stop and think about it. Get your Saint Paul flag today, available in two sizes and styles. https://streets.mn/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/podcast127nelsieyang.mp3
I’m happy to bring you a conversation with Chelsea DeArmond, one of the founders of Saint Paul’s 350.org chapter. 350 dot org is an international climate action group that is trying very hard to place climate change at the center of our cultural conversations, and catalyze change in how we use energy in the US. Founded by Bill McKibben back in 2007, the name is sadly a bit out of date at this point, as we’ve already hit 400 parts per million of carbon dioxide in the earth’s atmosphere. The founder of Saint Paul’s chapter is Chelsea DeArmond, a walking and biking advocate who is organizing climate actions from her home on the East Side. I sat down with Chelsea a few months ago to chat about the city’s new draft Climate Action and Resilience Plan, a document aimed at getting the city of Saint Paul in line with some of the changes that would be necessary to make a low-carbon city. It’s a document full of detailed and ambitious plans, but at least according to DeArmond, it could be even better. We had a great conversation about climate change, why it matters in the Twin Cities, and how we can finally begin to make some progress on reducing the use of fossil fuels in Minnesota. I hope you enjoy this critical chat. https://streets.mn/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/podcast126chelseadearmond.mp3 This podcast is sponsored by: Nate Pentz is a realtor with Pentz Homes at Keller Williams Classic Realty NW. You can start your own home search at pentzhomes.com and if you have any questions about the buying or selling process shoot him a message at nate@pentzhomes.com, or call 612.308.1122.
Proposed 800-stall parking ramp in the North Loop. I’m excited to bring you today a conversation with Nancy Gardner and Tom Mallon, who residents of downtown Minneapolis that organized an effort to successfully stop a large parking ramp from being constructed in their neighborhood. Nancy and Tom live near the Mississippi River on the northern part of downtown Minneapolis, located very close to the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis and the Hennepin Avenue Bridge. When we recorded this chat, it was an auspicious moment: The week before, both Nancy and Tom had testified at a dramatic meeting of the Minneapolis Planning Commission where the plans for the parking ramp had been narrowly rejected. The day after we chatted, a Fed spokesperson announced that the plans for the ramp’s constructed had been cancelled. Anyway, it seems like a good time to share this chat with Nancy and Tom about why and how they organized to stop the 800-space parking ramp. At least for the time being, they consider their work to be a success. https://streets.mn/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/podcast125fedramp.mp3 This podcast is sponsored by: Nate Pentz is a realtor with Pentz Homes at Keller Williams Classic Realty NW. You can start your own home search at pentzhomes.com and if you have any questions about the buying or selling process shoot him a message at nate@pentzhomes.com, or call 612.308.1122.
Today I’m bringing you a conversation with Liz De La Torre, who is running for City Council in Saint Paul’s Ward 1. I sat down with Liz a while back at the Heritage Tea House on University Avenue to talk about her campaign, her background working as a advocate for victims of domestic violence, and why she decided to run for City Council in Saint Paul. We had a nice conversation about her background and experience, what her platform looks like, and what her approach toward outreach and equity. Finally, we discussed affordable housing, transit, and other transportation questions that are central to her campaign. This podcast is sponsored by the Saint Paul Flag. If you or someone you know is living in Saint Paul, go to this website and ask yourself if a Saint Paul flag is right for you. Enjoy!   https://streets.mn/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/podcast124delatorre.mp3  
This podcast is an interview with Terri Thao, who is running for City Council in Saint Paul’s 6th Ward, on the East Side of the city. Terri Thao is a long-time non-profit professional, former Planning Commissioner, and community organizer, among other things, who has spent years working on issues around housing, transit, and economic development in Saint Paul. I sat down with here a few weeks ago to talk to her about her campaign and am pleased to share it with you today. We became friends and colleagues in our time on the Planning Commission and I have always been impressed by Terri’s dedication, intelligence, and the sheer amount of activities she manages to accomplish in Saint Paul every day. (Fair disclosure: streets.mn co-hosted a pedestrian advocacy event with a non-profit that Terri Thao helped to run, Nexus Community Partners, a few years ago.) Check out her whole campaign website here. I hope you enjoy the conversation.   https://streets.mn/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/podcast123territhao.mp3
Cover of the city’s first draft Pedestrian Plan. DETAIL. Today I’m bringing you a conversation with Fay Simer. Fay Simer is the Pedestrian Coordinator for Saint Paul Public Works Department, and she has been working diligently on the city’s first ever official pedestrian plan. Like most cities, Saint Paul has never had an official plan for how to design a city for people to walk. Typically, there might be ordinances or policies about sidewalks or street engineering or ADA requirements, but putting everything together into a city-wide plan to push walking infrastructure is not something that most cities have ever done. After lots of community input, advocacy efforts, and problematic crashes, Saint Paul has finally come up with a plan for how to improve our streets with walking in mind. That’s all about to change. Thanks to Fay Simer, who has been working diligently on the plan over the last year and a half, an actual city pedestrian plan is in draft form right now. I sat down with Fay in her office building the other day, across the street from city hall, to chat about the draft plan and how she and the city came up with it. We chatted about the challenges, procedures, and policy prescriptions that come with trying to change walking in a city like Saint Paul, where there are lots of gaps in the sidewalks, dangerous streets, snow storms, and other barriers to walking. It’s a nerdy conversation and an important one, and I hope you enjoy it. https://streets.mn/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/podcast122faysimer.mp3   This podcast is sponsored by Bill Lindeke’s Sidewalks store, full of great gift ideas for people who love local history. I have some new flags available for the holiday season! After a long time MIA, Northeast Minneapolis and Saint Paul flags are in stock in the large 3’ x 5’ size, suitable for flying from flagpoles. (Go big or go home.) In addition, I have printed up a limited amount of “original 1932 edition” Saint Paul flags, in the 2’ x 3’ smaller size. These have the Saint Paul crest, but without the “SAINT PAUL” banner at the bottom of the flag. It’s just how Gladys Mittle intended it. (The banner was added after 1932 by an unknown bureaucrat or booster.) If you’re into flag design, this is the Saint Paul flag for you! Just one thing… If you want any of these goodies delivered before Christmas, put in your order soon.
An activation event on Nicollet. Today I’m bringing you a conversation with Lisa Middag, the director of Nicollet Activation for the Minneapolis Downtown Improvement District. What does Nicollet activation” mean? I’m glad you asked. You’ll find out all about it in just a second, but it’s the person who is charged with bringing street life and economic activity to Nicollet Avenue in Downtown Minneapolis. You might be familiar with Nicollet, which is not only Minneapolis’ #1 shopping street, but was also remodeled at great expense a year or so ago. (Here’s a hint: It’s the street formerly known as Nicollet Mall.) Lisa Middag has been spending lots of time trying to ring activity to the new Nicollet and has been using a whole bunch of art, vitality, placemaking, and other tactics to do this. We sat down a few weeks ago on a nice day in downtown Minneapolis to talk about her work, and about what makes a downtown a great place, how that works in a place like Minneapolis that has a few structural challenges, and what the future might hold for downtown Minneapolis. I hope you enjoy the conversation. https://streets.mn/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/podcast121lisamiddag.mp3   If you like this podcast, consider purchasing some local urban swag from Bill Lindeke’s store. Flags, books, booklets, and more!
Today I’m bringing you a conversation with Heather Worthington and Paul Mogush, two of the people behind the forthcoming Minneapolis 2040 Comprehensive Plan. The Minneapolis 2040 Comprehensive Plan is the basic planning document for the city, a ten-year update required by the regional government, and Minneapolis’ plan has been getting a lot of attention for making some change to zoning and transportation issues, and for placing equity and climate values at its core. In her role as Long-Range Planning Director, Heather Worthington has been overseeing the release and revision of the plans, and has been the main figure at public meetings throughout the city this summer, discussing the goals and policies in the plan with community members. Paul Mogush is a Manager of Community Planning for the city, and has been working behind the scenes on the 2040 plan for years. Both work within the city’s Community Planning and Economic Development department, and it was great to sit down with them a week or so ago and discuss the goals and context for the new plan, and how the discussion has been going throughout Minneapolis and at City Hall. I hope you enjoy the conversation.   https://streets.mn/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/podast120mpls2040.mp3 If you like this podcast, check out my new coffee table book on Twin Cities history, Minneapolis / Saint Paul: Then and Now. The book features over 140 pages of old and new photographs of interesting sites in Minneapolis, Saint Paul, Edina, South Saint Paul, and the Fort Snelling Unorganized Territory. The historic photos range from the 1870s to the 1970s, and the new photos were taken last summer by a professional photographer who matched the scenes, angles, and aspect rations nearly flawlessly. It’s a great read and makes a great gift
Today I’m bringing you a conversation with Christian Huelsman, a public space preservationist who has, for years, been an advocate for alleys, public spaces, and urban history in Cincinnati Ohio and Minneapolis, Minnesota. Alleys are not always places that get a lot of love in the United States, especially in cities that have a legacy of downtown poverty like Cincinnati or Minneapolis, and many people see alleys as places to avoid. But for Huelsman, alleys are public treasures hiding in plain sight. We chatted about his work resurrecting the alleys of Cincinnati, where he lived for years and started a non-profit organization aimed at restoring and maintaining alleys throughout the city. Now Hulesman is working again on public space and place making in Saint Paul and Minneapolis. One of his hobbies is leading tours of alleys in historic parts of downtown Minneapolis, in a collaboration with the Preserve Minneapolis group. I talked him about his work and research into how Minneapolis’ endangered alleys got their shape and form. It’s a topic I personally adore, and we had a great chat about the most obscure and misunderstood spaces in old midwestern cities. I hope you enjoy the conversation. https://streets.mn/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/podcast119christianhuelsman.mp3   If you like this podcast, check out my new coffee table book on Twin Cities history, Minneapolis / Saint Paul: Then and Now. The book features over 140 pages of old and new photographs of interesting sites in Minneapolis, Saint Paul, Edina, South Saint Paul, and the Fort Snelling Unorganized Territory. The historic photos range from the 1870s to the 1970s, and the new photos were taken last summer by a professional photographer who matched the scenes, angles, and aspect rations nearly flawlessly. It’s a great read and makes a great gift
A dangerous crosswalk in Saint Paul on Kellogg Boulevard. Today I’m bringing you our 118th episode, a conversation with Dr. Nichole Morris. Dr. Morris is the director of the HumanFIRST Laboratory at the University of Minnesota, and is a researcher and scholar who focuses on the intersection of transportation, technology, and behavior. We sat down a few months ago in her office at the University of Minnesota campus to discuss her ongoing research project about pedestrian crossings and driver behavior and street safety in Saint Paul, Minnesota. With help from a state grant, Dr. Morris’ team has spent almost a year studying how often, where, and why drivers in Saint Paul stop for people crossing the street. As you may know, there’s a state law on the books that makes it mandatory for people driving cars to stop for pedestrians crossing the street at legal crosswalks, which are defined as just about every intersection you can think of, with the lone exception of the recreational trails in Saint Louis Park. As you probably also know, however, drivers stopping for people to cross the street is a rare sight. You can stand on a street corner for minutes and watch dozens of cars go by before one might stop, and in many cases, people crossing the street take their lives into their hands. That’s what Morris’s project is all about, studying Saint Paul’s difficult pedestrian crossings and trying to analyze whether or not its possible to change the behavior of the city’s drivers. It’s hard to think of a more difficult or more worthy task than this one, and I had lots of questions for Dr. Morris about her project, her initial results, and the innovative approach she is taking to applying science to something so seemingly simple as crossing the street. https://streets.mn/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/podcast118nichole-morris.mp3 This podcast is sponsored by Nate Pentz and Pentz Homes realty. Nate Pentz is realtor with Pentz Homes at Keller Williams Classic Realty NW. You can start your own home search at pentzhomes.com and if you have any questions about the buying or selling process shoot him a message at nate@pentzhomes.co or call 612.308.1122. Thanks to him for sponsoring this podcast, and if you or anyone you know is interested in becoming a sponsor, let me know.
Welcome to the streets.mn podcast. Today I’m bringing you episode 117: Saint Paul’s Ward 4 with Mitra Jalali Nelson. This is another in my interviews with political candidates for local public office. Longtime listeners of this podcast will remember, for example, five years ago when I interviewed people running in Minneapolis and Saint Paul for city council during their election. I’ve also interviewed people running for City Council or Mayor in places like West Saint Paul, Columbia Heights, and Newport. The goal of this kind of election coverage is to talk to people who aren’t running for high-profile offices, but rather running the down ticket elections, people who might not get a lot of attention or chances to talk about their campaigns and platforms in the mainstream press. Today’s candidate is Mitra Jalali Nelson, who is running for Saint Paul City Council during a special election in Ward 4. This part of the city covers the northeastern corner of Saint Paul, areas like Hamline-Midway, Saint Anthony Park, and Union Park. With the August 14th special election rapidly approaching, I sat down recently with Mitra at the Work Horse Coffee Shop on University Avenue to talk about her background, platform, and campaign. Our conversation ranged all over the place, from specific transportation and housing policy ideas to the big picture of city politics in the age of Trump. I hope you enjoy the conversation. https://streets.mn/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/podcast117mitra.mp3 [Thanks to our sponsor.] In addition to hosting this podcast, I am a freelance writer. Conveniently, I have written a short guide booklet that details some of the history of parks in Saint Paul’s Ward 4. It’s called Overlooked Parks of Saint Paul, and is one of the many booklets that I’ve written over the years that serve as guides to different historical places, small-scale establishments, and urban curiosities in the Twin Cities. You can get them online at my store. They’re affordable and fun and make great gifts.
A blurry photo of the panel. Welcome to the streets.mn podcast, Episode 116: Saint Paul 1978 with George Latimer, Jerry Mathiason, and David Lanagren. Today I have a fun conversation for you that I taped back in May. The chat took place between former Saint Paul mayor George Latimer, photographer Jerry Mathiason, and Macalester Geography professor David Lanagren that took place at the Landmark Center as part of an exhibition of Mathaison’s photographs from downtown Saint Paul in 1978. Saint Paul 1978, a year before I was born, has always fascinated me. Looking at the old pictures, is to see a very different Saint Paul, vast empty lots, 70s era urban squalor, sidewalks and streets designed around cars intermingling with historic pre-war people-centered architecture. It’s fascinating, and thinking about this period of time in American cities is something I greatly enjoy. Thanks to the Ramsey County Historical Society and the Landmark Center museum for hosting the forum and allowing me to tape the proceedings. The chat was about an hour long and full of interesting tidbits about Saint Paul history, downtowns in the 1970s, economic development schemes like the never-built Saint Paul “people mover”, and more. I hope you enjoy it. Here’s a link to the audio, with some of Mathiason’s 1978 photos appended below. https://streets.mn/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/podcast116saintpaul1978.mp3 The podcast is sponsored by Nate Pentz, so thanks to him! Nate Pentz is realtor with Pentz Homes at Keller Williams Classic Realty NW. You can start your own home search at pentzhomes.com and if you have any questions about the buying or selling process shoot him a message at nate@pentzhomes.co or call 612.308.1122. [Photos continue.]  
This week’s episode features Trista Matas-Castillo, who is running for Ramsey County Commissioner in the 3rd District, which covers a big chunk of the northern neighborhoods of Saint Paul. Most people in Ramsey County cannot even name a County Commissioner, and yet county governments do a ton of work to help people and govern transportation decisions in our cities and towns. We sat down in her campaign office on Rice Street the other day to chat about her background, what Ramsey County does, and which County issues she is focusing on in her campaign this summer. I hope you enjoy the conversation. https://streets.mn/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/podcast115trista.mp3    
Carolyn Swiszcz is one of my favorite local artists, a painter, printmaker, and visual artist who works a lot in some of my favorite slash least favorite landscapes: post-war suburbia. I first came across Carolyn a short musical video she made about West Saint Paul Minnesota, a first-ring suburb near where I grew up. As she explains in our chat, Swiszcz made the piece for an exhibition at the Walker about suburban landscapes, and it was so catchy that it went somewhat viral. Only after that did I start to learn about Carolyn’s amazing paintings of strip malls, parking lots, brutalist or mundane architecture, and other scenes of everyday life in modern America. Carolyn’s portfolio features amazing almost pop paintings of such landscapes as a Petsmart strip mall, the old Metrodome, the 3M Corporate Headquarters, and the Old Mexico restaurant in Roseville. I saw her work recently at an exhibit this spring at the Highpoint Center for the Arts in Uptown, and later reached out to Carolyn to chat about her work and her relation to the urban landscape. We had a nice chat about design, Minnesota, and the mixed appeal of strip mall parking lot paintings. I hope you enjoy this conversation with a wonderfully talented Minnesota artist. https://streets.mn/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/podcast114carolynswiszcz.mp3 The podcast is sponsored by Nate Pentz, so thanks to him! Nate Pentz is realtor with Pentz Homes at Keller Williams Classic Realty NW. You can start your own home search at pentzhomes.com and if you have any questions about the buying or selling process shoot him a message at nate@pentzhomes.co or call 612.308.1122.   [Some of my favorite of Carolyn Swiszcz’s paintings follow.]    
I’m really excited to share this podcast with you, because it’s a new topic for me — an in depth look at restoration of a unique old house on the East Side of Saint Paul – and I personally loved talking to Matt about his incredible passion for his house. I first came across Matt Mazanec through his blog, — 1889 Victorian Restoration — which I happened across years ago and added to my RSS feed. Matt has been writing his blog for years now, posting photos of his old house full of tiny details from another era. For example, here’s a list of some of the things that Mazanec found in the walls of his home as he restored it: children’s shoes, women’s purses, postcards, a halloween invitation from 1907, receipts, notes, and newspapers… After the latest post this spring, which was about unearthing still-operating century-old “speaking tubes” out of the wall, I wrote an email to Matt and asked if he’d be willing to chat. A few weeks later, I was getting a tour of Matt’s amazing house, which he’s been restoring to its Victorian-era standards. We walked through the multiple floors of tall-ceilinged rooms, some of which were finished and others which were still in great disrepair. Matt even took me up into the attic and showed me the turret room, before we went to the Dancing Goat coffee shop and chatted about his house, his work with the historic preservation commission, and his attempts to get some traffic calming on the East Side. I think you’ll enjoy the conversation, because I sure did. https://streets.mn/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/podcast-113victorianrestoration.mp3 The podcast is sponsored by Nate Pentz, so thanks to him! Nate Pentz is realtor with Pentz Homes at Keller Williams Classic Realty NW. You can start your own home search at pentzhomes.com and if you have any questions about the buying or selling process shoot him a message at nate@pentzhomes.co or call 612.308.1122. [More photos of Matt’s house over the years below.]
A racially restricted ad for homes in Minneapolis, from 1919. I’m back with another streets.mn podcast and it’s a good one. I sat down a few weeks ago with the team from Mapping Prejudice, a groundbreaking historical research effort to shed light on the racist history of housing practices in Minneapolis. Joining me around the table in the basement of the Borchert Map Library were three people who’ve been in the think of this untold story, Kirsten Delegard, Penny Peterson, and Kevin Ehrman-Solberg. Together they have been researching dusty old deeds from deep in the bowels of Hennepin County history, and mapping those deeds that have “racially restrictive covenants” so that you can see where these were located. Racially restrictive covenants are one of a series of historically troubling practices that was widespread during the 20th century. Basically, for decades, it was written right into the mortgage that a home owner could not sell their house to a person of color. I hope you enjoy the episode. https://streets.mn/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/podcast112mappingprejudice.mp3   The podcast is sponsored by Nate Pentz, so thanks to him! Nate Pentz is realtor with Pentz Homes at Keller Williams Classic Realty NW. You can start your own home search at pentzhomes.com and if you have any questions about the buying or selling process shoot him a message at nate@pentzhomes.co or call 612.308.1122.   The Mapping Prejudice team, looking at a Minneapolis redlining map.
Superior Street in Duluth in winter. The podcast this week is a conversation with Ben Garland, a Duluth resident who runs a small business in the hillside neighborhood. Over the last year or so, Garland has been organizing to try and change the design for a street reconstruction project on Superior Street in downtown Duluth. Superior Street is Duluth’s main street, and there’s a huge reconstruction project planned for the next two years where the city will be re-doing all the curbs and pavement in the heart of downtown. Garland spent much of the 2017 trying to get the city to re-design and re-think some of its intersection treatments on Superior Street, especially to improve the pedestrian experience there. I was in Duluth this winter and looked up Ben Garland at his home, in the middle of a snowstorm in very cold weather. We chatted for a long while about his efforts, some of the frustrations he had dealing with the community engagement and public policy process in Duluth, and what his vision for a better Superior Street and a more walkable Duluth might look like. We had a great chat, and I hope you enjoy it. https://streets.mn/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/podcast111bengarland.mp3
Representative Hornstein points. The podcast this week is a conversation with State Representative Frank Hornstein, who represents district 61A in south Minneapolis. Frank Hornstein has long been a leader in the Minnesota House on transportation issues, and is currently the ranking minority member of a whole bunch of transportation-related committees. The state legislative session is going on right now in downtown Saint Paul, and we sat down in his office the other day to talk about a whole bunch of topics. If you’re into the messy world of state politics you’ll find this interesting. We had a great chat, and I hope you enjoy it! https://streets.mn/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/podcast-110-hornstein.mp3 If you have ideas for future guests, please reach out to Bill Lindeke!
Not Max, but rather a statue of Floyd B. Olson taken on one of his recent walks. The podcast this week is a conversation with Max Hailperin. Max Hailperin is fascinating Minneapolis flaneur who has been quietly walking down every street in Minneapolis over the last few years. To do it, Hailperin maps neighborhoods, figures out the most mathematically efficient route through the neighborhoods, walks every street, and then writes about it on his website, allofminneapolis.com. Max has also been cross-posting his articles at streets.mn, and if you’ve been on the site in the last year you’ve certainly seen them. It’s a huge and intriguing project to say the very least! I sat down with Max in Linden Hills the other day to ask him about why and how he’s launched himself on this project, and what kinds of takeaways he’s gotten so far from his many many many hours of work and steps across the Minneapolis’ many diverse sidewalks. I was myself quite surprised by our conversation, and I think you will be too. I hope you enjoy it. https://streets.mn/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/podcast109maxhailperin.mp3  
The podcast this week is a special one. Just like we did four years ago, streets.mn co-hosted a forum with candidates running to be the mayor of Minneapolis. This is a recording that hour-and a half long conversation, which was moderated by Freddy Bell and featured four candidates for mayor: Raymond Dehn, Jacob Frey, Tom Hoch and Betsy Hodges. They discussed issues on the theme of equitable and sustainable transportation in Minneapolis on stage at the old Bell Museum on the University of Minnesota campus. I hope you enjoy it.   [no transcript this time. enjoy!] https://streets.mn/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/podcast-forum-2017.mp3  
The podcast this week is a conversation with David Brauer, a long-time local Minneapolis journalist, all about the upcoming Minneapolis city elections where 13 city council seats and the next mayor will be decided. We sat down at Butter Bakery Café in Brauer’s beloved Kingfield neighborhood the other day to discuss the election, both the big picture of Minneapolis political history, some of the different mayoral candidates, and also a bit of a ward-by-ward discussion of some of the Council seats. Though Brauer did state who he is voting for in our conversation, it’s not intended to be an endorsement. Rather I’d hoped to shed some big-picture light on the political minutiae going on in Minneapolis this fall. We had a great chat, and I hope you enjoy it. WARNING! I do say the words “Rybak-ian zeitgeist” during this conversation. https://streets.mn/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/podcast107davidbrauer.mp3 [Rough and partial transcript follows.]  Q: What’s going on here in the Minneapolis election right now? Explain it to a hypothetical person that just moved to the city from somewhere else, like Denver or something. City elections in Minneapolis are a bigger deal than the City Elections in Saint Paul, because we do it all at once every four years and we do it in an odd numbered year where there’s no other elections.  It’s kind of like the Super Bowl for people who care about the city. If you came from Denver and landed in Minneapolis and think, “well it doesn’t matter. they’re all liberals.” There’s some truth to that, but there are some important distinctions at the local level. There are candidates, say, who are more friendly to the police and who are less friendly to the police. There are some candidates who are friendlier to certain kinds of development than others are. There are bike lanes, stuff like that. Racial justice: you have a choice between white people who say they care, white people who actually care, and people who aren’t white. So these are all things that as a citizen as somebody who’s covered politics in Minneapolis for 30 plus years that I think are important. Q: Explain some of the bigger political trends in Minneapolis You have to go back 19 years. The biggest election in the city in recent times in my opinion was the 2001 election where RT Rybak beat the two-term incumbent Sharon Sayles-Belton. It really was a big deal because Sharon was supported by the established interests. Up to that time Minneapolis was sucking wind with de-urbanization and had to rely on a lot of subsidies and there was a lot of developer clout at city hall, more than today frankly. You could argue that the two things that R.T. criticized her the most for, subsidizing rich people’s housing by the Guthrie and subsidizing the target store, both turned out well. But the city was much less confident in itself i tend to vote for people who believe more in this city, people won don’t think we need as many subsidies as others think we do. R.T. beating Sharon was a big deal because it sort of changed what block was in control, even though the bloc has splintered a little bit. Younger people not quite as much people who are on on the Orchestra Board. But there is a strain that goes to Betsy hodges the incumbent, but if she loses that would to me represents a little bit of a restoration of the  Minneapolis Club / Orchestra Hall nexus of older people with money as opposed to younger people and people who are a little more comfortable with change. Q: You’re a fan of the ranked choice voting system? Ranked choice also reduced the need for strategic voting. Unfortunately the way Minneapolis enabled RCV you only get three choices on the ballot. What three does to a guy like me is i don’t make a strategic choice with my first choice, i don’t make a strategic choice with my second choices, which is awesome, like a bonus blessing. But at some point you look at the candidates in the rest of the field, and you make a strategic decision. You ask, is there anyone there that I really don’t want to be mayor, and then you make a choice.  
The podcast this week is a conversation with Ginger Jentzen, who is running for Minneapolis City Council in Ward 3. Jentzen is a community organizer who formerly ran the successful 15 now living wage campaign that raised the minimum wage in Minneapolis this year. Now she’s running for Council as part of the Socialist Alternative party. We sat down near her campaign headquarters on Central Avenue the other day and had a long discussion about her ideas on affordable housing, on advocacy versus representation, on inequality in Minneapolis, and what city politics should look like in the Trump era. It was a very interesting conversation, and I hope you enjoy it. https://streets.mn/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/podcast106gingerjentzen.mp3 [rough partial transcript follows] Q: Tell me about yourself. Why are you running for City Council in Minneapolis? For a long time I was in the service industry, or worked with folks with developmental disabilities. A lot of that work was alongside coworkers who were struggling to get by because of various day-to-day things, forces that exert themselves on the people that really make our city run, people in restaurants, people doing PCA work. We struggled with not getting COLA raises, not being able to afford housing. So folks that were working in low wage jobs but trying to raise families, buy houses, maintain an apartment in the city. Back in 2010, when I was working with folks at the group home we were encouraged to go to the state capital to lobby against cuts. At the time we were talking about an entire Democratic Party-run House, Senate and governorship. That was disillusioning. Why are there proposed cuts to the most vulnerable people in our society? And why aren’t people working with them are getting raises? So I started organizing in independent politics and organizing with working people. I joined the fight for the affordable housing that we need, to win a 15 dollar minimum wage in Minneapolis, as the executive director for 15 Now. Talking to regular people, nurses, teachers, folks that make the city run across Minneapolis. They were really supportive and it was a lot of the political establishment obstructing it in city hall that was the barrier. Without that movement, I don’t think this would have happened. Q: How would you view politics around policing or rent control differently than current Minneapolis leaders? You can see the comparison between the $15 min wage and policing issues in the city. Where we’ve built up a strong movement we’ve been able to push back and win something. And that’s the type of work that needs to be done with dealign with the racism that exists in the Minneapolis P.D. And that’s the type of work the model for how we won 15 by putting it forward as a ballot initiative and having the folks at the city push back against us. We were able to clarify issues. Wider policies that we need like rent control. Part of the reason I’m running as a Socialist Alternative candidate is that we need that genuinely independent voice in City Hall, and we can organize with the left wing in City Council and those that are less tied to the political establishment. We need to be putting forward these policies. We need to be talking about taxing the rich for social services. We need to be talking about an expanded vision for what role city council members can play. To me, 15 Now really shows that. We can organize around the city budget by having our own people’s budget events, throwing open the doors of City Hall. That’s about setting community priorities, it isn’t about putting one person into office, it’s about its about expanding the full scope of how we use political positions and having those political positions linked and rooted in our social movements. That’s the only way we’re going to act. Q: Do you think Minneapolis has a housing crisis? If so, describe it. What is the root of the problem, and what might you do to solve it? We’re talking about decades of big business and for-profit developers setting an agenda in the city of Minneapolis. There was a concerted effort back in the 80s for these big developers pushing for preemption against rent control. Part of that that is was fairly popular, and made it more difficult to kick out residents in cities like New York and San Francisco. Over the years part of these efforts have been pushed back because of the lobbies of powerful developers. This broad crisis of affordability in Minneapolis is being articulated through… There’s a wide topic of discussions in part because we’re looking at rent increases having gone up 15% since 2009, and yet we have extremely low vacancy rates. We can see that the market-driven approach is not really working at making housing affordable. For example, we have 7,000 units that have been built since 2009 broadly not affordable. There was a recent Star Tribune article that shows, of the 5-6,000 units that were planned in the Metro area since 2016, only 1 in10 will be considered affordable housing. There was a recent study at CURA that shows that a median income black family in Minneapolis can no longer afford to live in Minneapolis. That to me says that this is intimately linked to this crisis of racial inequity in the city. We need to call not just for lifting the ban on rent control, but also how do we do the organizing to fight for rent control politics. The issue of raising linkage fees on developments that come into the City of Minneapolis. To me that’s a tax where, even at a small percentage, it could put millions into the affordable housing trust fund. How we prioritize where we build affordable housing across the city needs to be discussed in terms of what residents want to see. Current residents are upset about the fact that developers rule at City Hall, and about what the most profitable development is to them but not what the community actually wants or needs. Q: Do you think there’s a power imbalance in the city between homeowners and renters? How would you that relationship look if you could rethink it? In the context of movement building for rent control, we need to constantly talk about what it would mean to tax the super-wealthy and big developers to fund the needs of the people of Minneapolis. If we’re constantly burdening middle class people with higher property taxes, we’re talking about a very regressive property tax situation in Minneapolis right now. If we’re constantly burdening working people that can cause the types of divisions that make it more difficult to organize for what would actually be broadly in the interests of both renters and working and middle class homeowners. To me the example of Inqulinxs Unidxs which is a very vibrant renters rights organization that has successfully brought lawsuits against Steven Frenz, this notorious slumlord… He took over from a previous notorious slumlord, he’s not only been unresponsive to tenants but there are issues of pests and mold. In whittier he attempted to increase rents with very short notice, and when we’re talking about renters rights, the idea that a landlords has within their power go give a rent increase with only 30 days notice. That is not going to work for someone with a family. The city just kind of carte blanche gave him the highest rating of a landlord in the City of Minneapolis. The fact that Inqulinxs Unidxs has been doing organizing around him, but also getting reparation back from tenants who have gone though this criss. They’re also calling for the need for tenants unions, broadly getting a role for renters rights. We need depressionary measure on rent that put more power in the hands of tenants organizing. The “let the market rule” approach, the tenant and student voice has been missing. Students as well. There are a lot of students who are trying to afford being close to the U of MN campus so they can live work and go to school in the same area. Q: How would you have approached the development in Ward 3 differently, ahd you been the area’s Council Member during the previous four-year term? Most of the development you are indicating on this side of the river, like the Nordhaus, there is no commitment to having below market-rate units in these buildings. We’re not talking about addressing the question of affordability within the city or the ward. Talking to folks all throughout Ward 3, the main question to most people i what is the overall cost burden and price point with just building market rate housing. You’re going to push the people who live here for even a short period of time, with very few rights, they’re biggest concerns for most people whether they are working- or middle-class homeowners or renters in the area, is that these bigger buildings that are entirely market-rate are just going to further the crisis of affordability in this part of the city. If I had been the council member when these proposals came through, there would have been a much more robust discussion about leveraging our power as the City to get higher taxes on them to go into the affordable housing trust fund. At the very least we should have made stronger commitments to having affordable housing and below-market units in these buildings. Many of these developers say they would like to do middle-density, but that its not profitable. To me that’s a non-starter. If we’re building just marke- rate housing right now, it’s a reverse… [it ends up] pricing working people out into the suburbs. We aren’t dealing with the lip service that’s focused on racial equity or economic equity. To me the push for saturation of market-rate housing is one of the main problems that we’re looking at as far as not leveraging all our power against big developers. It’s not about not building, we need to deal with the question of supply, the question of having units available. But at the rate we’re going right now we’re actually increasing the crisis rather than addressing it. Q: Is there a difference in your role as an advocate and your role as an elected official? Too frequently we see politics as a career move. And in this case we’re talking about giving working people a voice in City Hall, so you’re never thinking about decisions in isolation. Even the day-to-day tasks of City Hall can be very political and have a dramatic impact on working people. [Q: Like what?] Every zoning variance. Every discussion of even a stoplight at a street corner can actually have a really big impact on how livability and affordability affects regular people. To me, it’s having an eye for where do we have larger community meetings? For example, I think with the appointment of a new Police Chief, we should have used that opportunity to have robust discussion all across the city about policing in the city of Minneapolis.
The podcast this week is a conversation with Travis Norvell, aka the Pedaling Pastor. Norvell is a pastor at the Judson Memorial Baptist Church in South Minneapolis, and is also an avid bicyclists who blogs and tweets using his handle, the Pedaling Pastor. We sat down a few weeks ago at the Bad Weather Brewery in Saint Paul to chat about the intersection between faith, bicycling, and the face-to-face work of being a pastor with a congregation full of people. It was really interesting and we covered all sorts of fascinating territory, from West Virginia to New Orleans to bike lanes in Minneapolis. We even and a guest appearance by Ian Campbell, a brewer and urbanist at Bad Weather Brewery. I hope you enjoy this fascinating conversation. If you have ideas for podcast guests, or would like to sponsor future episodes of the streets.mn podcast, please reach out to me, Bill Lindeke, for more details. The podcast intro music was written and produced by Dan Choma. Thank you so much for listening. https://streets.mn/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/podcast-105-pedaling-pastor.mp3   [Rough partial transcript follows.]  Q: How did you get into bicycling? One time I went to DC on a school trip and it was the first time I saw a dedicated bike lane. And I remember thinking, that’s pretty cool. How come we don’t have those in West Virginia? Not to be too critical of my home state, but bicyclists were not really tolerated, and told to get off the road. We were on top of a mountain in a little town in West Virginia and i started riding a bike and after the first week we were coming down the road and this truck comes down beside me, stereotypical of every truck you might see in appalachia and the throws this 12 oz. beer bottle at me. And I thought to hell with this, it isn’t worth it, it’s not worth it. And i put my bike up and that was it. Then we moved to New Orleans, and I thought now I’m in the greatest place in the world to bike. So I started off riding and bought a Breezer bike, I didn’t fathom in my mind that every day at 4pm it rains. And it was extremely humid. But I would arrive at the hospital or somebody’s house an the fire thing they would say is, “can I get you a shirt?” And it created a really bizarre dynamic. People just weren’t prepared to think of riding a bike as part of the job. But then one day i preached a sermon on “Christian socialism”, and my daughter, I was putting her to bed, she said, “hey dad what are you going to do about life and living this way?” So I thought about it, and I stayed up half the night researching stuff and in conjunction with that the heater went out on my Volkswagen. So I said OK. I called a family meeting and said we’re selling the car and I’m going to just ride a bike. I don’t know where the idea came from, maybe a long lost dream. But we sold the car and I got a bike and I said, I can do this. There were enough people out there riding a bike that I thought, OK. If they can do it i can do it. And the Twin Cities aren’t that big. Q: Does bicycling help you be a pastor? If so, how? The picture I have of my mind most when i think about driving a car versus riding a bike. I will do this as an experiment at a stoplight look at everyone who is driving a car, how many people have an genuine expression of joy on their face? Versus how much do you see people riding a bike scowling? Whether its being exposed to the weather, feeling the wind, it opens you up to a different way of experiencing life. And also it opens you up to encounters with other people more so than driving a car, because your’e in a pod an enclosed capsule that prevents you from having any intimate connection. It puts me more at ease. When i ride to church or to visit somebody i’m automatically, between where i take off and where i land, there’s always someone that i run into. It sets you in mind to be present with someone. Q: What do you mean by “being present”? Presence is such a key factor, if i’m gonna really listen to you express your joy or concerns, i can’t have my mind somewhere else. And biking generates a biochemistry, it’s an analog motion that enables you, you’re physically doing something, and enables you to listen to someone more so than when you’re driving. It engages your sense in such a way that I’m not thinking about whether I missed an email or the radio show that was just on. I’m here, tell me what’s going on…    
This week’s podcast is a conversation with Amanda Willis and Brandon Long, two of the people who have organized called Sustain Ward 3, a new community group in Saint Paul focusing on urban issues. We sat down in Long’s living room the other day to chat about the history of the grassroots organization, Sustain Ward 3, which is trying to shift neighborhood conversations in Saint Paul around things like density, development, transit, and bicycling. I hope you enjoy the conversation. The podcast this week is sponsored by streets.mn. streets.mn is a website dedicated to expanding the conversation about land use and transportation issues in the Twin Cities and Greater Minnesota. I am sure you already know about it, but if you are a fan of streets.mn or appreciate the kinds of conversations that it brings into the public attention, please support the website with a donation. You can find the big blue donation button on the top right of the main page, and your donation will help keep the site afloat and thriving, helping pay for events, web hosting, and other expenses like this podcast. If you have ideas for podcast guests, or would like to sponsor future episodes of the streets.mn podcast, please reach out to me, Bill Lindeke, for more details. The podcast intro music was written and produced by Dan Choma. Thank you so much for listening. https://streets.mn/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/podcast105sustainw3.mp3 [rough transcript slash highlights follow] Q: How did Sustain Ward 3 come to be? Brandon Long: There were a lot of folks online, on Twitter, chattering about different developments around the city. The Cleveland bike lane was a big deal at the time. Everyone seemed unhappy about the narrative of the ward, and the folks that were being heard weren’t really representative of “us”. Instead you had lots of folks who were really angry about new developments, saying things like “we want to keep the neighborhood character.” And we were scratching our heads about, what does that even mean? We were all chattering about it and gradually we started making connections in real life. Amanda Willis: We met each other and had gatherings and thought, hey we can make this into something. Brandon Long: So we had happy hours and bbq’s, and then we started getting into business and being more formal. We decided, “hey it’s time that we start making this a more formal thing.” And it’s only really been a few months. Amanda Willis: It’s been since the beginning of the summer since we started having our meetings at the library. It’s on the transit line and it’s open to everyone. Brandon Long: it was really good for us to start that way because you have to know your neighbors and trust each other and … Amanda Willis: It was good for us all to become friends. Not just twitter friends but in real life. Q: What’s the philosophy of Sustain Ward 3? Amanda Willis: There we want to do these things in a positive, thoughtful, rational way and a lot of times like when they rolled out the larger recycling bins. There were a whole lot of people that were very angry about this, and went on Facebook and complained really loudly. And we were like ok this is a big change. Brandon Long: It‘s a big enough change for STP that I get it, change is hard for people. And that’s really what it comes down to: any time anything changes, there’s a resistance to any sort of change in the neighborhood, and you get a lot of those angry letters to the editor and an angry crowd at community meetings and people from the Villager or Star Tribune come and say “the neighborhood’s angry!”  So we came together and said, “well, we’re not.” So they form a group with a name and we thought, well we can do that. We can have a name and get editorials in the paper. Q: How did you choose your name and focus? Amanda Willis: We have three main tenets of our group: fiscal sustainability, environmental sustainability, and community sustainability. We really are based off the sustain language, and the idea of Ward 3, to us, maybe people will start to understand what wards mean. Brandon Long: Big city decisions happen at the ward level and you have a city council member who represents your ward and we want to be able to influence that. The next level is the District Council system, and there are two district councils that operate in Ward 3. Amanda Willis: Environmentally, like with the ford site plan, how water runoff is treated. There’s a big argument about it with people who are anti-change they want it to be all single-family homes or golf courses, and then there’s people like us who believe this change is good. It hits the three tenets. Like the environmental piece, there is this creek that is going to run above it and help treat the storm water runoff. and it helps build an environmentally sustainable neighborhood because you don’t have to walk to it you don’t have to drive it’s denser and that creates an environmentally sustainable site. Q: What is your take on the Ford site debate? Amanda Willis: There’s 9% green space at the site, so that’s the maximum that the city can do. As far as the other two tenets, it brings more people to our neighborhood. It’s more diverse, more inclusive, and helps bring people to the neighborhood that have not had access to it. That’s community sustainability, and it’s socio-economical as well, because 40% of the neighborhood is renters. We also need the ability to age in place on the site, that’s part of it as well. Brandon Long: For fiscal sustainability, the denser we make it, the more fiscal sustainability we have for the city. We might have 2400 to 4000 new units, and with them comes more taxes. But we think that leads to a more fiscally sustainable and equitable city. There’s a huge housing crisis, this is one of the least dense neighborhoods in the entire city and we need houses and they’re going to go somewhere. Q: What are the goals for the future of Sustain Ward 3? Brandon Long: The Ford site is the sort of story that happens over and over again, with the bike lane, Riverview, Ford, with the changes on Snelling. There’s an angry crowd that comes out. Amanda Willis: Say yes, Saint Paul. We really want people to know that all the messaging we have on our website is factual. It’s stuff from the city, we want to be very intentional with our resources so that you understand the facts. Brandon Long: That’s the difference between what we’re trying to do and other groups. This would have happened whether or not there was a giant redevelopment in our neighborhood. This was an idea that was not reactionary, we’ve been clear with our council members and the people we speak with is that we’re going to proactive so that conversation stays positive the whole time and we can continue to do that. Amanda Willis: We would like this to spread to other parts of the city and if there is going to be a sustain ward 4 we’d like to help with that. As we talk to various people in the city they’re excited to have a positive voice. Q: What is the group working on now? Amanda Willis: Our next big push is for public comment to council members and signatures and phone calls we need as many people to stand up at the meeting as possible. I’m sure the public comment portion is going to be very… aggressive. Brandon Long: How can we do it differently. Can we go to a meeting and stand up and speak rationally? Can we talk to a reporter and convince them that they don’t speak for the neighborhood … Here we have  a handful of people who literally live on one street, a street where you can’t find a house for sale for under $700K dollars. It’s a specific set of people that are older, white, giant home owners. They’ve been here for a long time and stand up a meeting and it’s a point of pride, like “I’ve been here for X years” and they founded the town. As if other people who are younger or something don’t matter. We can be more representative.
The podcast this week is a conversation with Jim McDonough, who is a County Commissioner on the Ramsey County board representing the East Side of Saint Paul. Commissioner McDonough and I sat down in his office a few weeks ago to talk about the recent “public works test” along Maryland Avenue on Saint Paul’s East Side, where the county is experimenting with reducing the number of travel lanes on the street from 4 lanes to 3 lanes in an effort to improve safety. The conversation covered a lot of ground about how County government works, why 4-lane roads are dangerous, and McDonough’s hopes for what the test can do for the future of Ramsey County and Saint Paul. I hope you enjoy the conversation. If you appreciate this podcast, please consider supporting this podcast by donating to streets.mn! We are an all-volunteer organization that relies on your financial support to pay the bills. The big blue button is up at the right hand side of the screen. If you have ideas for podcast guests, or would like to sponsor future episodes of the streets.mn podcast, please reach out to me, Bill Lindeke, for more details. The podcast intro music was written and produced by Dan Choma. Thank you so much for listening. https://streets.mn/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/podcast-104-jim-mcdonough.mp3 [rough transcript follows] On the role of county government: County government is pretty integral to our community. So much of what we do is when a family comes in crisis: human services, mental health, adults with disability, public health, corrections. Those are some of the main functions of counties, but we do so much more: parks, libraries in suburbs, roads. We own an extensive county road system, we run elections. We do a lot. On County roads: County roads are typically the arterial feeder roads. They tend to be a mile or half mile apart, every mile or so you have these major arterial type roads that feed. Those tend to be the county roads. So our roads are pretty critical in the city of Saint Paul its tough because our roads — White Bear, Maryland, Johnson Parkway on the East Side — so many are those arterial-type roads and the right of ways are extremely narrow. They never were built to carry the amount of traffic they carry today. On changing priorities at Ramsey County Public Works: At the board level from the top and through public works we’ve adopted a transportation for all policy. When we’re looking at our roads we look at pedestrians bikers transit and automobiles. Int eh past roads were truly focused on automobiles and how to move cars through communities as efficiently as possible. That worked for cars, but the bad part was that it became extremely unsafe for pedestrians bike users. And it was tough for transit to integrate into that system. So with our transportation for all we truly look at peds first, bike users second, transit third, and then for people driving in their cars. It’s an evolution, right? We’ve been pushing for bike lanes on our roads. Its always hard so our dollars don’t go as far because its more costly. Its always easier to focus in on county road E or J out in the suburban community large right of way you can do a lot of things.. But coming into the city white bear avenue you can’t build that road to the standards they say they should built these days. In the past we tended to just patch those roads but now we’re actually committed to doing what we can in that right of way to make it safe for the users. We’re putting the first HAWK light we’ve used in the system at White Bear at Margaret Street for folks using the system and the trail there. On safety for County Roads on the East Side, and the Maryland Avenue test: White Bear and Maryland are probably the two toughest streets in my district. I can remember when both of those streets had parking and only one lane of travel. Things have changed.  When I grew up, it was pretty common for a lot of folks to not even have cars. And most families that did only had one car in the family. Now we’ve got families in the east side with 4-5 cars. The numbers of vehicles traveling on our roads has increased. We’re trying our best here. We’ve got this great opportunity on Maryland. We’re repaving this year, and we had that tragic death on Greenbrier and Maryland. That brought the community together. We had conversations about that, and there were some questions about whether or not we could take a look at turning Maryland from a 4- to a 3-lane road. The number of cars on that segment of Maryland are at the high end of what engineering and modeling say you can do, but it’s not absolute. Most Saint Paul public works and Ramsey County public works thought this was an opportunity for a “real time test” to actually see what happens. It’s hard to predict human behavior, so we’ve converted Maryland to a 3-lane road and we’re doing a six-week test here. We’re getting all kinds of data, we’re watching interactions. We’ve met with shop owners. We’ve had pop-up meetings. We’ve got ways for people to weigh in. On 4-3 road diets: One of the thing about roads and pedestrians and cars its engineering its enforcement and its education. There is a law you have to stop for pedestrians when you’re in an intersection. A car did that. She starts to cross, another car assumed that the car stopped was probably taking a right turn, they didn’t think there might be a pedestrian in the crosswalk, and killed that person. It happened to a young boy on Rice Street, it happens. That’s one of the reasons why pedestrians get leery. Unless you know and have that eye contact and you know that both lanes of traffic are stopped and that it’s safe… but to do that on four lanes of traffic on Maryland street is risky. Now we’ve taken it down to where you’ve got one lane east, one lane west, and the center lane which is a refuge so that people crossing can be confident that folks coming from the other direction is safe for them to cross. On the Maryland test so far: It’s actually functioning quite well from an engineering data driven [perspective]… there’s traffic flowing and there are certainly some times when someone might have to wait an extra [traffic] cycle to cross Arcade Street or slight delays or other issues. I believe we will continue it and continue to get data and maybe get some fine tuning on signal timing. One of the positive experiences is certainly for people within public works is to have this real-time opportunity. There have been other opportunities within the city — Dale Street, Rice Street — you can name many streets. Having this real time test can really help give people not only the data but the experience to say we can push it here. On street design priorities in Ramsey County: Certainly you’ve got community opposition, but this also helps to temper community opposition. I know of folks who said “no” but once it’s been put in place they actually changed their mind, they actually liked it. I’ve seen that where people actually go from a “no” to a “yes” on this. One of the hardest parts especially for the people that are a “no” is to think that this right of way that the city owns is not just for cars. It is to move citizens. A lot of folks choose to walk or have to walk, they have no choice, or they choose to bike or have to bike, or choose to use transit or have to use transit. And those rights of way have to work for all those modes, and not just cars. There’s been this slant, I think, as we’ve developed out our road system to focus in on cars and being safe for car interaction and how to move cars as efficiently from point A to point B. And when you do that you take away from other people who also have to use that right of way, walkers bikers and transit users.
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