Two chats with people who make you laugh for a living: Pod Save America co-host Jon Lovett talks about making his shows — including one that’s supposed to happen with a live audience - from home during the pandemic, what’s happening to his podcast business during the economic disruption, and how to help people get through a very rough time. Then, in an interview taped as the pandemic was beginning to hit the U.S., improviser Jon Gabrus explains how podcasting has allowed him to build a loyal audience and make money. Gabrus talks about how he got his start, via the influential Upright Citizens Brigade Theatre in New York, how he’s making his way in Los Angeles, and what the comedy landscape looks like in 2020.

Featuring: Jon Gabrus (@Gabrus), comedian and host of High & Mighty and Action BoyzJon Lovett (@jonlovett), Co-Founder of Crooked Media, host of Lovett or Leave ItHost: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at RecodeMore to explore: Subscribe for free to Recode Media, Peter Kafka, one of the media industry's most acclaimed reporters, talks to business titans, journalists, comedians, and more to get their take on today's media landscape.About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices