Amy’s guest Nick McGowan describes how

he knew from a young age that he could influence people through his words and

actions. His parents knew he was a born salesman, and he knew as well. Nick and

Amy talk about his connection with Stoicism, and traverse through his journey

in sales, making hard choices in a family business, reaching greater levels of success,

finding himself in a beautiful high-rise apartment overlooking a tranquil park,

but with the thought running through his mind – should I just jump and end it?