Under Trump’s rule many of us have been traumatized, experiencing signs of chronic stress, depression, anxiety.  We tried everything we could to block him out, lead a normal life, but like a bully he kept coming back at us. And even now that he has been officially defeated, the anxiety continues.

Back at the beginning of Trump's presidency, Dr. Jennifer Contarino Panning, a psychologist from Illinois, not only recognized what was happening, she coined a name for it, T.A.D. or "Trump Anxiety Disorder."

As a contributor to the bestselling book, “The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 27 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President,” Dr. Panning’s chapter, titled "Trump Anxiety Disorder," describes the symptoms so many of us have suffered.

On top of T.A.D., we’ve had to deal with the COVID-19 pandemic.  For many of us baby boomers --  more susceptible than most -- it has been a traumatic experience.

In this episode, we lay back on the therapist's couch and discuss how to cope with the double whammy of COVID-19 and the continuing case of "Trump Anxiety Disorder" with the Psychologist who first diagnosed it -- Dr. Jennifer Contarino Panning.