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It's Episode 100, so we pulled out all the stops for a live streamed recording of mini-dives into the 100 most important/cool/powerful decks of Modern, from inception to today. That's... a lot of decks! Join us for an extra-long episode full of fun and surprises! We would have never made it to 100 episodes without the ongoing engagement and generous support from all of you out there in The Dive Down Nation. Thank you so much for being part of who we are as a podcast community. Please support our charity drive for Feeding America, the United States' largest domestic hunger relief campaign, by donating here: https://streamlabscharity.com/@thedivedown-shane/the-dive-down-nation-helps-feed-america The Break Down: One The Dive Down: Hundred The Wind Down: Decks Timestamps: 3:50 - Housekeeping 8:33 - Decks 100 to 75 38:49 - Decks 74 to 50 1:02:36 - Decks 49 to 26 1:28:09 - The Top 25 Modern Decks! Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: thedivedown@gmail.com twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown AGAIN! Please support our charity drive for Feeding America by donating here: https://streamlabscharity.com/@thedivedown-shane/the-dive-down-nation-helps-feed-americaSupport The Dive Down
We took things a little easy this week as we prepare for the big episode 100 live stream, and asked The Dive Down Nation to prompt us with: "What's your favorite ____?" We got a TON of awesome questions, so thank you, Nation! We talk about our favorite spells, overheard conversations, books, draft formats, and more. Prior to that we have an installment of Cool Decks, Inc, where we talk about a few recent... well... cool decks that we've seen popping up in Modern. The Break Down: Cool Decks Inc. The Dive Down: All of our favorite stuff! Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 3:50 - Housekeeping 5:55 - An Historic announcement 8:33 - The Break Down: Cool Decks, Inc. 8:54 - Rakdos Hollow Storm 13:50 - Golgari Infect 18:21 - 4-Color Flashback 24:38 - Izzet Control ft. Kiki-Jiki 30:00 - The Dive Down : A few of our favorite things 30:57 - Our favorite cards that aren't good enough for Modern anymore 36:04 - Our favorite sideboard hate cards 42:28 - Our favorite matchups 45:54 - Our favorite overheard comment at a Magic event 51:45 - Our favorite piece of MTG bling 55:22 - Our favorite judge interaction 59:26 - Our favorite draft format 1:04:42 - Our favorite non-sanctioned MTG format 1:07:27 - Our favorite books we have read more than once 1:16:03 - Our favorite albums 1:16:48 - Our favorite movies 1:17:07 - Our favorite Legacy cards 1:18:22 - Our favorite weird rules interaction 1:20:24 - Our favorite cards of 2020 1:28:30 - Our favorite decks ever 1:31:32 - Our favorite cards to imprint onto Isochron Scepter 1:32:38 - Our favorite flavor text 1:35:08 - How good do you want to get at Magic? 1:40:00 - Our favorite playmats 1:40:21 - Our favorite ways to win games 1:41:01 - Our favorite deck names 1:41:40 - Our favorite mtg slang 1:42:52 - Our favorite Magic art or artist 1:44:05 - Our favorite color shifted cards 1:45:30 - The Wind Down: Join us for TDD EP 100 — LIVE! Links from this week's episode: Rakdos Hollow Storm: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3541194#paper Golgari Infect: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3537083#paper 4-Color Flashback: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3541195#paper Izzet Kiki-Jiki: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3543682#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: thedivedown@gmail.com twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedownSupport The Dive Down
We spend this week looking at an up-and-coming deck in Modern: Mono-White Taxes. We spend some time looking at the history of Taxes decks, how this deck works, and if we think it's actually that good. Before that we breeze through some Modern Challenge and Qualifier results from Magic Online. The Break Down: Challenging Tournaments The Dive Down: Challenging Sandwiches The Dive Down, cont: Challenging Playpatterns Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 2:36 - Housekeeping 7:26 - The Break Down begins 16:01 - Meta takeaways 19:45 - The Dive Down begins - Auditing Mono-White Taxes 21:45 - Why do people want this deck to work? 28:14 - The older Modern Taxes decks 35:10 - Why Death & Taxes is back 40:55 - The general anatomy of D&T 45:23 - Our initial takes 51:45 - The one-drops 57:30 - The two-drops 1:08:20 - The three-drops 1:25:00 - Land destruction 1:30:15 - How to play with Stoneforge Mystic and the equipment 1:38:34 - Sideboarding 1:39:43 - Is Taxes good? Links from this week's episode: The Modern Qualifier: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-champs-12223552#paper Sunday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12223585#paper Saturday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12223580#paper Mono-White Taxes: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3519870#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: thedivedown@gmail.com twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedownSupport The Dive Down
In our latest bonus episode, musician and comedian MTGRemy joins us for a conversation about making Magic-inspired parody songs and sketches for YouTube. Remy's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/mtgremy Remy's Twitter: https://twitter.com/mtgremy Remy's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mtgremy Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: thedivedown@gmail.com twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown [Support The Dive Down](patreon.com/thedivedown)Support The Dive Down
On the one year anniversary of Pioneer, we give the format a performance review. We look at what happened over the last year, and what are the Goals, Obstacles, Opportunities, and Decisions that we can evaluate and make for the newest competitive Magic format. The Break Down: A Call From Corporate The Dive Down: A History Lesson The Dive Down, cont: A Performance Review Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 3:21 - Housekeeping 7:59 - The Break Down Begins - Pioneer Challenges 22:20 - The Dive Down Begins - Pioneer, A Year in Review 25:44 - A Spike’s History of Pioneer’s Launch 35:10 - The Initial Round of Pioneer Bannings 40:06 - Pioneer First Golden Age 41:50 - Enter Theros Beyond Death 47:00 - The Companion Era Begins 49:27 - We’ve Been Told the Combo Decks Are Fine 52:39 - Combo Cards Banned, Pioneer is Saved(?) 57:04 - What the Pioneer Meta Looks Like Today 1:01:44 - Year 1 Takeaways 1:04:16 - Performance Reviews are Due 1:07:08 - How Has Pioneer Performed on its Goals? 1:20:50 - What Obstacles Should Pioneer Overcome? 1:31:54 - What Opportunities Does Pioneer Have Ahead? 1:37:45 - Decisions, Decisions 1:41:44 - Shane's Bottom Line: Pioneer is Fundamentally A Good Idea 1:43:10 - Dave's Bottom Line: It's Not the Gameplay's Fault 1:44:30 - Stan's Bottom Line: Dave is Right Links from this week's episode: 10/24/20 Pio Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-challenge-12221068#paper 10/25/20 Pio Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-challenge-12221072#paper Abe Stein "Defining the Pillars of Pioneer": https://articles.starcitygames.com/premium/defining-the-pillars-of-pioneer/ Pioneer announced: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/announcing-pioneer-format-2019-10-21 Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: thedivedown@gmail.com twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedownSupport The Dive Down
This week Stan and Shane pair up to explore what can make Magic great, and why Modern has been a fan favorite in 2020. Before that, we look at a quartet of Modern and Pioneer challenges to see where the meta is headed. The Break Down: Breaking it Down The Dive Down: Building it Up The Wind Down: Moving it Around Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 4:43 - Housekeeping 8:44 - The Break Down begins 9:28 - Modern Challenges 22:37 - The Modern Challenge Meta 24:40 - Pioneer Challenges 28:02 - The Pioneer Challenge Meta 33:06 - The Dive Down begins - The Unifying Theory of Good Magic Formats 37:55 - Laying out the signs of a healthy format 44:38 - Evaluating diversity in Modern 53:46 - What is good gameplay? 1:03:47 - What are the different incentives to play Modern? 1:12:22 - What are the untapped possibilities in Modern? 1:21:48 - How can a good format go bad? 1:31:12 - The Wind Down - Moving it Around 1:40:56 - Closing Out Links from this week's episode: Modern challenge #1: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12218052#paper Modern challenge #2: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12218058#paper Pioneer challenge #1: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-challenge-12218055#paper Pioneer challenge #2: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-challenge-12218059#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: thedivedown@gmail.com twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedownSupport The Dive Down
In the first installment of "We Did It For Science," we look at two cards we just aren't (or weren't) that interested in playing with: Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath and Omnath, Locus of Creation. Are these cards good, REALLY good, or TOO good? You're going to have to listen to find out. Before that, we take a (fairly) quick look at a few recent Challenges to see what's going on in the metagame. The Break Down: Always Challenging The Dive Down: Jump Into the Pile The Dive Down, cont: Four Arms to Hold You Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 4:04 - Housekeeping 9:50 - The Break Down begins - the Pioneer Championship Qualifier 23:03 - The Modern Challenge 31:55 - The Dive Down begins: We Did It For Science vol 1 34:19 - Why are we doing this? 37:05 - Why do we hate these cards? 45:29 - Why are these cards good? - Uro 54:03 - Omnath 57:25 - What are people doing with these cards? 1:06:03 - Our experiences: Dave plays Modern 1:16:30 - Shane plays pioneer 1:26:07 - Are Baneslayers becoming Mulldrifters? 1:33:15 - Is the juice worth the squeeze? (AKA our takes) 1:45:09 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: The Pioneer Championship Qualifier: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-champ-qual-2020-10-12 The Modern Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2020-10-12#decklists Modern 4-Color Control: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3463389#paper Pioneer 4-Color Omnath: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3470841#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: thedivedown@gmail.com twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedownSupport The Dive Down
Stan and Shane are on their own this week, so they talk about their recent playtesting in Modern and Pioneer in a vaguely Sleeve/Believe/Heave part two. Before that, they go over the weekend's Pioneer and Modern Showcase Challenges to see what's performing well and what the meta looks like. And then they finish with an extended Wind Down where they answer a bunch of listener questions. The Break Down: Dave's Not Here, Man The Break Down, pt. 2: Just Kidding The Dive Down: Stan and Shane Play Decks! The Wind Down: Getting Personal Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 4:19 - Housekeeping 8:15 - The Break Down begins: Pioneer and Modern Showcase Challenges 18:10 - The Pioneer Showcase top 32 meta 20:10 - Why Pioneer differs from Modern 23:40 -The Modern Showcase Challenge 36:21 - The Modern Showcase top 32 meta 40:33 - The Dive Down begins 42:18 - Chonky Gruul in Pioneer 52:45 - Boros Wizards in Pioneer 1:02:40 - A new Jeskai Fires in Modern 1:21:00 - Rakdos Sacrifice in Pioneer (briefly) 1:24:35 - The Wind Down begins: Listener questions! 1:25:05 - What is the origin story of The Dive Down? 1:28:32 - Who taught you how to play Magic, and how wrong did you have it? 1:31:43 - What is your favorite sound? 1:34:43 - What other formats are you exploring? 1:39:25 - What is your most memorable Halloween costume? 1:42:29 - What is your biggest misplay? 1:44:31 - What are your favorite LGS's you've been to? Links from this week's episode: 10/4/2020 Pioneer Showcase Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-showcase-challenge-2020-10-05 10/4/2020 Modern Showcase Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-showcase-challenge-2020-10-04#decklists Chonky Gruul: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3451939#paper Boros Wizards: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3451938#paper Rakdos Sacrifice: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3448907#paper Jeskai (wild)Fires: https://t.co/XWe7YiWHMQ?amp=1 Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: thedivedown@gmail.com twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedownSupport The Dive Down
This week we apply our patent-pending Sleeve/Believe/Heave rating system to 3 potentially breakout Modern and Pioneer decks. Are they the real deal, or not worth your time? Only one way to find out. Prior to that, we look at the winning decks and statistics from the most recent Manatraders Modern tournament. The Break Down: Manatraders Modern 15k The Dive Down: Oops All Spells! The Dive Down, cont: Oops No Life! Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 1:45 - Housekeeping 5:17 - Break Down Begins 9:20 - Manatraders Top 8 19:22 - Metagame Share & Win Rates 23:50 - Top 10 Cards 31:48 - Dive Down Begins 37:00 - Modern Mono-White Taxes 1:02:04 - Pioneer Oops All Lands 1:24:45 - Modern Rakdos Shadow 1:44:48 - Shane’s Goonhammer Articles Links from this week's episode: qbturtle's white taxes: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3424897#paper Aluren85's oops, all spells: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3432467#paper trunks123's rakdos aggro: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3427687#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: thedivedown@gmail.com twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedownSupport The Dive Down
We take a good, long look at the latest decks, trends, and strategies in Modern and Pioneer, but this time with the cards of Zendikar Rising! We start with Cool Decks (and cards!), Inc, as we look through 2 Modern and 2 Pioneer Challenges. Then we head into The Dive Down and do a mini-dive on Gruul Goblin Charbelcher, and look at changes to Jeskai, Mill, and Death's Shadow. And look suspiciously at Omnath... The Break Down: Challenging Challenges The Dive Down: Recrossing, Reforging, Rebelching The Dive Down, cont: Other Concerning Things Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 20% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 2:11 - Housekeeping 4:26 - The Break Down begins - early results with Zendikar Rising 4:50 - 2 Modern Challenges 29:00 - 2 Pioneer Challenges 44:30 - The Dive Down begins 46:01 - Gruul Goblin Charbelcher 1:06:23 - Cleansing Jeskai 1:16:05 - Mill 1:22:10 - Omnath Piles 1:32:40 - Naya Winota (Pioneer) 1:35:49 - Shadow Decks 1:39:10 - Hot Takes on ZDR Links from this week's episode: The 9/19 Modern Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2020-09-20 The 9/20 Modern Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2020-09-21 The 9/19 Pioneer Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-challenge-2020-09-20 The 9/20 Pioneer Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-challenge-2020-09-21 Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: thedivedown@gmail.com twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedownSupport The Dive Down
Stan's on vacation, which means we get to have Evart Moughon (aka AspiringSpike) on as a returning guest host to talk about the second week of Zendikar Rising spoilers. We revisit some cards from last week to get Evart's takes and give some more picks to click from the latest set. Before that, we look at some Modern and Pioneer Challenges to see what's happening in the meta. The Break Down: Modern & Pioneer Challenges The Dive Down: A Few Redos The Dive Down, cont: The Last of the Spoilers Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 20% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 2:47 - Housekeeping 5:07 - The Break Down begins - recent Modern events 25:25 - Evart's favorite decks in Modern right now 29:55 - 2 Pioneer challenges 39:27 - The Dive Down begins 39:51 - How Evart evaluates spoilers 41:54 - Pathway lands revisited 46:22 - Agadeem's Awakening 48:27 - The spell lands revisited 52:07 - Nahiri, Heir of the Ancients revisited 54:53 - Cleansing Wildfire revisited 57:22 - Roiling Vortex 1:00:49 - Thieving Skydiver 1:02:39 - Omnath, Locus of Creation 1:04:53 - Emeria's Call and Ondu Inversion 1:06:30 - Forsaken Monument 1:10:54 - Ruin Crab 1:13:16 - Wayward Guidebeast 1:16:31 - Inscription of Ruin 1:20:12 - Feed the Swarm 1:23:25 - Deliberate 1:25:15 - Archon of Emeria 1:27:47 - Grakmaw the Skyclave Ravager 1:30:29 - Lullmage's Domination 1:32:48 - Legion Angel 1:34:45 - Lithoform Blight 1:36:37 - Maul of the Skyclaves 1:38:26 - Felidar Retreat 1:40:28 - Sea-Gate Stormcaller revisited 1:43:26 - Evart's biggest picks to click 1:45:04 - Evart's early brews 1:46:07 - Fighting Uro in Modern 1:47:45 - Finding Evart Links from this week's episode: The 9/13 Modern Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12206263#paper The 9/12 Pioneer Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-challenge-12206260#paper The 9/13 Pioneer Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-challenge-12206264#paper Zendikar Rising spoilers: https://scryfall.com/sets/znr?order=spoiled Watch Aspiring Spike on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/aspiringspike Find Aspiring Spike on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MoughonEvart Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: thedivedown@gmail.com twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedownSupport The Dive Down
We take a look at the first batch of spoilers from Zendikar Rising and identify some picks to click from the upcoming set. Before that, we have a conversation about the 2021 Magic roadmap in a non-meta Break Down! The Break Down: DDN FNM MTGG The Break Down, cont: Cool Set, Inc. The Dive Down: Spoilers, Spoilers, Spoilers! Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 20% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 3:58 - Housekeeping 7:31 - The Break Down begins - the 2021 release schedule! 9:58 - Modern Horizons 2 16:54 - Kaldheim 19:34 - Time Spiral Remastered 24:27 - Strixhaven 27:23 - Forgotten Realms 31:30 - Innistrad V3 38:10 - The Dive Down begins - Zendikar Rising Spoilers, pt. 1 38:40 - How we evaluate spoilers 41:50 - The mechanics of Zendikar Rising 43:41 - The Pathway Lands 54:27 - The other modal lands 1:02:31 - The Planeswalkers 1:12:40 - Cool Landfall cards, and some thoughts on Landfall 1:17:33 - Sea Gate Stormcaller 1:23:05 - Scourge of the Skyclaves 1:27:51 - Skyclave Apparition 1:29:50 - Luminarch Aspirant 1:31:54 - Fissure Wizard 1:34:05 - Crawling Barrens 1:37:27 - Cleansing Wildfire 1:42:20 - Leyline Tyrant 1:46:20 - Magmatic Channeler Links from this week's episode: The Dive Down Nation FNM: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/the-dive-down-nation-modern-fnm-09-04-edition#paper Zendikar Rising spoilers: https://scryfall.com/sets/znr?order=spoiled The 2021 release schedule: https://articles.starcitygames.com/news/wotc-unveils-2021-mtg-release-schedule/ Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: thedivedown@gmail.com twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedownSupport The Dive Down
This week we revisit Dredge! In our first repeat deck dive, we talk about what's changed for the deck, how that makes it better.. or worse.. or just different? What did playing this deck feel like in the current meta? What's up with Silversmote Ghoul? Before that, we dive into 3 recent Modern tournaments to see what's up. The Break Down: Modern MOCS & Challenges The Break down, pt.2: More Cool Decks, Inc. The Dive Down: Shane Beeps Returns to Play Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 20% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 4:30 - Housekeeping 7:09 - The Break Down begins 9:11 - The Showcase Qualifier 17:20 - Saturday's Modern Challenge 25:09 - Sunday's Modern Challenge 31:08 - Metagame thoughts 35:02 - The Dive Down begins - Dredge 2: The Redredgining 38:35 - What's changed for Dredge pt.1 42:16 - A brief history of Dredge 46:52 - Why is Dredge powerful, and how is it winning? 51:30 - What's in the deck 57:10 - The impact of Silversmote Ghoul 1:07:20 - The mana and mana needs of the deck 1:11:12 - What's changed for Dredge pt.2 1:14:15 - A brief mulligan discussion 1:19:24 - A brief strategic aside about stops/timing 1:20:30 - Ten Things We Like About Oxen 1:30:10 - New hate cards 1:37:41 - What playing Dredge felt like Links from this week's episode: Saturday's challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12201349#paper Sunday's challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12201355#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: thedivedown@gmail.com twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedownSupport The Dive Down
This week it's back to Modern for the TDD crew as they peruse Prelim pivots for a format pulse and then dive into one of the oldest and Izzetest decks in Modern — Gifts Storm. Stan gets emotional. Dave gets self-deprecating. Shane gets quiet. It's another week on The Dive Down. Housekeeping: A Winner is Announced! The Break Down: Surprises in the Modern Prelims The Dive Down: Grapeshot: The Gift That Keeps on Giving Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 20% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 3:45 - Housekeeping 8:25 - The Break Down: Surprises in the Modern Prelims 21:22 - The Winner's Meta and some takes 25:51 - Cool Decks, Inc. 31:55 - The Dive Down: Grapeshot: The Gift that keeps on giving 34:10 - Why Storm? 36:14 - How Storm is designed 42:13 - The cost-reducing creatures 51:10 - Gifts Ungiven, Grapeshot, and other key cards 1:14:21 - The Gifts Packages 1:22:02 - The sideboard 1:26:29 - Beating Storm 1:35:12 - How we feel about Storm 1:39:02 - The Wind Down - P. Sully's Bonus Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: thedivedown@gmail.com twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedownSupport The Dive Down
For this bonus ep, we welcome Patrick Sullivan to the pod to talk Magic, game design, and broadcasting! He shares some great insights with us from his long career in gaming. Find Patrick on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BasicMountain Donate to the Denver Justice Project: http://www.denverjusticeproject.org/ Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 20% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: thedivedown@gmail.com twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedownSupport The Dive Down
First on this week's show, the TDD crew do a quick check in on Pioneer a couple of weeks after the bannings. After that they do a deep dive into the financial implications of Double Masters and chat about how they approach the most fun part of Magic in general — buying stuff. Turns out it's more complicated than even Shane thought. The Break Down: Pioneer Challenges The Dive Down: Double the Masters The Double Dive Down: Putting the Fun in Financial Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 20% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 3:11 - Housekeeping 4:49 - The First Dive Down GIVEAWAY! 7:48 - The Break Down begins - Pioneer Prelim Power 20:08 - The Winner's meta 31:21 - What's catching our eyes 32:47 - The Dive Down begins 36:37 - Magic is expensive 38:15 - Reprint sets: when Magic goes on sale 41:57 - What we're buying from 2XM 51:56 - The decks on sale right now 57:00 - One reason Modern is still expensive, even on sale 1:00:53 - Other ways to save money on Magic cards 1:08:30 - Buylisting for fun and.... profit? 1:14:20 - Why pay more than the absolute least? 1:20:30 - Playtesting before you buy 1:26:25 - The financial trap cards 1:33:35 - Budget MTG resources 1:35:24 - Maintaining a Magic budget 1:40:54 - The Wind Down - How do we handle Magic FOMO? 1:48:20 - Closing out Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: thedivedown@gmail.com twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedownSupport The Dive Down
This week we break down the post-ban Pioneer Challenges and Prelims and talk about what's over and under-performing. Then we head into the Dive Down to talk about our experiences playing Pioneer, our thoughts on the state of the format, and answer some listener questions! The Break Down: Pioneer is Back, Baybee! The Dive Down: Are We Having Fun Yet? The Wind Down: Dive Down is that You? It's Me, Listeners. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 20% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 2:35 - Housekeeping 5:25 - The Break Down begins 7:58 - The overall competitive meta 25:27 - The winner's meta 28:17 - Cool decks! 36:10 - Hot takes on Pioneer 41:54 - The Dive Down begins 43:51 - What players were talking about 47:39 - What we were playing this week 50:49 - How did our decks feel? 1:03:00 - What we saw being played 1:10:25 - Was anything feeling under or overpowered? 1:16:00 - A digression - what makes Magic fun? 1:22:32 - Are the best cards and decks too good? 1:28:00 - Is the format healthier now? 1:31:20 - Listener questions! Does Uro make aggro unplayable? 1:35:28 - Does Pioneer need Bolt, Path, and better Counterspells? 1:39:10 - What would we play in a Pioneer GP? 1:41:25 - Will Pioneer be played when paper comes back? 1:45:12 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: Simic Spirits: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3283075#paper Abzan Aristocrats https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3279021#paper Inverterless Inverter https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3283205#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: thedivedown@gmail.com twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedownSupport The Dive Down
This week we break down the 4 new bans in Pioneer, and talk about what this means for the format! In the Dive Down we go over the many flavors of Prowess in Modern: Red, Izzet, Gruul, Rakdos - how to choose?! The Break Down: A Lovely Surprise Banning! The Dive Down: Not Everyone's Tempo The Dive Down, cont: We Could Bolt or Not Bolt Forever Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 20% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 2:48 - Housekeeping 6:11 - The Break Down begins: SURPRISE BANS! 26:35 - Takes on the bans 32:39 - The Dive Down begins: The many flavors of Prowess 36:35 - A Red Prowess Primer  52:19 - Hey.... what's tempo? 57:35 - The decks we covered 1:04:06 - Izzet Prowess 1:09:45 - A strategic digression - the tempo of Prowess 1:14:55 - Back to Izzet Prowess 1:17:14 - Gruul Prowess 1:25:13 - Rakdos Prowess 1:33:40 - Burn vs. Prowess 1:39:08 - Why cast the "bad" spells of Prowess? 1:44:57 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: The August 8, 2020 B&R: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/august-8-2020-banned-and-restricted-announcement Izzet Prowess: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3234953#paper Gruul Prowess: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3234957#paper Rakdos Prowess: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3234951#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: thedivedown@gmail.com twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedownSupport The Dive Down
This week we take a look at one of the most popular and powerful cards in Modern - Mystic Sanctuary. What makes it good, how is it being played, and what can you do with it? Before that, we break down the Manatraders July Modern 15k tournament. The Break Down: Modern Manatraders The Dive Down: Making Mystic Mighty Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 20% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 2:27 - Housekeeping 5:00 - The Break Down begins - The Manatraders July Modern 15k 9:50 - The MT meta 18:48 - The top 32 27:38 - Conversion rate discussion 32:52 - The Top 8 36:30 - The top cards 42:59 - The Dive Down begins - a brief history of Mystic Sanctuary 51:26 - What makes Sanctuary messed-up? 58:15 - The value plan of Sanctuary 1:11:15 - The impact on your mana 1:18:05 - The loops 1:30:10 - The strategies 1:34:25 - Facing down Sanctuary 1:39:05 - Is this the best card in Modern? 1:45:55 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: Gruul Prowess: https://goodgriefgames.wordpress.com/2020/04/22/brewed-up-r-g-prowess-modern/ Mystic Sanctuary is a Messed-Up Magic Card: https://articles.starcitygames.com/premium/mystic-sanctuary-is-a-messed-up-magic-card/ People Are Sleeping On Mystic Sanctuary: https://articles.starcitygames.com/premium/people-are-sleeping-on-mystic-sanctuary/ Examining The Future Of Mystic Sanctuary In Modern: https://articles.starcitygames.com/premium/examining-the-future-of-mystic-sanctuary-in-modern/ Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: thedivedown@gmail.com twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedownSupport The Dive Down
On this week's episode, the team does a long break down on what's happened in Pioneer and Modern in the week since our most recent bans. Takes are given... and returned? Moods are had... and worked out? Then we talk about what we've been playing lately. Ponza! White Tokens! UR Prowess! Mono Green Devotion! We'll let you guess who is who! The Break Down: Modern/Pioneer: Similar/Same The Dive Down: Our Decks: That's the Same Picture Timestamps: 4:42 - Break Down Begins 5:24 - Modern Analysis Begins 12:44 - Modern Week 1 Metagame 29:50 - The Modern Winner's Metagame 42:30 - Pioneer Analysis Begins 50:06 - Pioneer’s Tier 2 and Beyond 55:00 - What do we want Pioneer to be? 1:04:57 - The Pioneer Winner’s Metagame 1:12:35 - Dive Down Begins: Our Testing Results 1:16:44 - Modern Mono-White Tokens 1:25:20 - Pioneer Mono-Green Devotion 1:35:06 - Modern Izzet Blitz Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: thedivedown@gmail.com twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown Support The Dive DownSupport The Dive Down
On this week's episode, friend of the show Evart Moughon aka Aspiring Spike drops in for a reaction to the latest Banned & Restricted announcement. Then we talk about some of Evart's latest takes on Modern Control. The Break Down: July 2020 B&R in Modern & Pioneer The Dive Down: Modern Control Concepts Wind Down: Spiking Listener Questions Timestamps: 5:10 - Break Down Begins - July 2020 B&R 57:24 - Dive Down Begins - Current State of Modern Control and Evart's Izzet Deck 1:35:05 - Wind Down Begins - Listener Questions! Links from this week's episode: July 2020 B&R: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/july-13-2020-banned-and-restricted-announcement-2020-07-13?ryujyu Aspiring Spike's Izzet Control: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3169395#paper Aspiring Spike on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MoughonEvart Aspiring Spike on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/aspiringspike Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: thedivedown@gmail.com twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown Support The Dive DownSupport The Dive Down
This week the team tries to just chill (for once) and ends up with a 60min+ Break Down of the last 6 months of Modern and Pioneer, some ban speculation (before the upcoming announcement was announced), and answering listener questions. Shane brings some takes. Stanislav disagrees with Dave. Dave opens packs on air in retaliation. It's another week on The Down Down! The Break Down: 6 months of Modern + Pioneer The Dive Down: Listener questions Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 3:20 - Housekeeping 4:59 - The extended Break Down begins - Modern and Pioneer in 2020 6:35 - Modern in 2020 10:15 - The Modern up-and-comers 14:04 - Modern still hanging on 21:35 - Modern Falling Stars 28:13 - Recent Modern tournaments 45:35 - Our takes on Modern in 2020 49:15 - Pioneer in 2020 50:50 - The Pioneer up-and-comers 52:59 - Pioneer still hanging on and the falling stars 54:29 - Recent Pioneer tournaments.... sorta 57:55 - Our takes on the problems of Pioneer in 2020 1:10:58 - What would we change in Pioneer? 1:15:25 - What could be added to Pioneer? 1:21:40 - What would we ban/unban in Modern? 1:24:34 - The Wind Down begins: listener questions 1:25:34 - How do we track our performance? 1:31:30 - What promo cards do we like? 1:35:55 - What makes a deck eternal? 1:40:10 - What has been your favorite deck to play? 1:43:14 - What other formats would we like to try? 1:45:45 - What cards would we like to see printed into Modern? 1:48:58 - Closing out Links/Tournaments Referenced in this week's episode: Modern Challenge #1: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2020-07-05 Modern Challenge #2: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2020-07-06 Pioneer League #1: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-league-2020-07-02 Pioneer League #2: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-league-2020-07-06 Pioneer Prelim #1: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-preliminary-2020-07-02 Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: thedivedown@gmail.com twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedownSupport The Dive Down
In this bonus episode, Stan sits down with Nick Valdez, AKA Deezy MTG to talk about the art of content creation, MTG comedy, and what it's like being the #1 Magic Tik Tok account in America and maybe the world! Find Nick Twitter: https://twitter.com/nickvaldeezy Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/deezy_mtg Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@deezymtg Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: thedivedown@gmail.com twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedownSupport The Dive Down
On this week's episode we take three (or more!) decks featuring Core Set 2021 cards through the Sleeve/Believe/Heave gauntlet. Did they have what it takes to get the coveted "Sleeve" rating? Following that, we discuss how new cards are impacting classic decks in Modern and Pioneer! The Dive Down: Stanislav Snops The Dive Down, pt 2: Dave Stormwings The Dive Down, pt 3: Shane Selesnyas ... And more! Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 5:58 - Sleeve Believe Heave Week Begins 7:51 - Modern Rakdos Goblins ft. Conspicuous Snoop 33:53 - Modern Izzet Prowess ft. Stormwing Entity 57:54 - Pioneer Selesnya Scales ft. Conclave Mentor 1:24:40 - Modern & Pioneer Elves ft. Llanowar Visionary & Fierce Empath 1:31:44 - Modern Grixis Delver ft. Thieves Guild Enforcer 1:33:40 - Modern & Pioneer Dredge ft. Silversmote Ghoul 1:39:07 - Modern Izzet Control ft. Teferi, Master of Time 1:41:35 - Pioneer Azorius Spirits ft. Shacklegeist & Lofty Denial 1:43:30 - Modern Izzet Phoenix ft. See the Truth 1:44:15 - Eliminate in Pioneer 1:45:35 - Pioneer Boros Cycling ft. No New Cards 1:46:47 - Pioneer Simic Wilderness Reclamation ft. Sublime Epiphany 1:47:40 - Pioneer Goblins ft. Conspicuous Snoop & Subira, Tulzidi Caravanner 1:50:17 - Closing Out Links from this week's episode: Snoopy Goblins: https://www.streamdecker.com/deck/UrwCOTAZK Izzet Prowess: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3144685#paper Selesnya Scales: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3150880#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: thedivedown@gmail.com twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedownSupport The Dive Down
This week we dive into both Modern AND Pioneer to explore Naya Winota! Did she successfully recruit us into joining her forces, or did we remain unaffiliated? We also do a quick break down of the latest Modern Challenge to explore the variety of decks finding success, and wind down with some Patreon questions. The Break Down: Stanislav <3s Modern The Dive Down: History's Best BoP Deck? The Wind Down: A Few Questions Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 2:58 - Housekeeping 6:12 - The Break Down begins: A Modern Challenge 8:10 - Top 8 analysis 23:42 - Takes on the tournament 26:14 - Core 21 projections 27:58 - The Dive Down begins: Why Winota? 30:50 - What Winota? 34:35 - The payoffs 40:32 - Payoff math and payoff tactics 45:40 - Gut checks and initial takes 49:55 - The mana dorks 52:55 - The token generators 56:21 - Eldritch Evolution and the sac fodder 1:06:00 - The early game plan and the power of that game plan 1:11:25 - Creating advantage with Winota 1:19:40 - Losing advantage with Winota 1:22:09 - Comparing this to other decks in the formats 1:30:18 - What's the better version? Pioneer or Modern? 1:40:02 - The Wind Down: Patreon questions 1:48:38 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: The 6/21 Modern Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2020-06-21#decklists Pioneer Winota: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3130303#paper Modern Winota: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3114576#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: thedivedown@gmail.com twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedownSupport The Dive Down
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The Dive Down
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Nov 20th, 2020
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Nov 20th, 2020
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112
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