Ep 13: In which I talk with former Prime Minister of Australia Malcolm Turnbull about our Honest Government Ads, the climate wars, and what we can do to get meaningful climate legislation before this Government gets us all killed.

This is the podcast companion to our latest Honest Government Ad - Economic Recovery. If you haven't seen the video, you can watch it here.

This podcast is also available as a video - you can watch it here on our YouTube channel.

You can follow Malcolm at @TurnbullMalcolm
You can find his book, A Bigger Picture, here

Here are the two articles by Malcolm from which I quoted:

• Sydney Morning Herald - Political risk in making a martyr of Assange
• The Australian - Hardly spy-catching at WikiLeaks

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