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Welcome to our Ted Lasso talk , the

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fans around the world . It's the Lasso

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way around these parts with Coach , coach

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and Boss , without further ado , coach

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Castleton .

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Okay , welcome back , beautiful people . Today

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we are discussing Ted Lasso

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Season episode 12

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inverting the pyramid of success . This

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is part 7 . Part

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7 . And it might be

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, this might be it , this might

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be it . I am your host , coach Castleton With

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me , as always , is Coach Bishop . We

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are going up , we

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are going up . And

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with us is our boss , Emily Chambers .

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It has nothing to do with Ted Lasso whatsoever

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, but it is a fact that I learned today that's continuing

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to blow my mind . Do you guys

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know who voices Mr Krabs

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from SpongeBob SquarePants ?

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No idea , oh damn it . I knew that , go ahead tell it . I knew

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that , go ahead Tell me .

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Fucking Clancy Brown . Yes

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, yes , the

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weirdest thing for me . For those who are

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not familiar , clancy Brown is an extremely prolific

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actor . He was in Highlander . He

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was the head guard in the

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Shawshank Redemption . He

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was in one episode

1:44

of Sleepy Hollow which should have been much better

1:46

than the ending seasons of Sleepy Hollow were

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. He is exactly

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, I should say , younger , younger

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Clancy Brown . He's a bit old for me , but

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younger Clancy Brown is exactly

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the kind of Coach Beard , daniel

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Stern sort of kind

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of weird looking but in a hot way type

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thing . Like pictures of young clancy brown

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for sure . And it turns out the

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motherfucker has been on spongebob's square

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pants all these years . I'm absolutely

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losing my mind over it .

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It's the wildest shit yeah

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, you would have you . You would have me sitting here guessing

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for the rest of time . I mean , like

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what ?

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that makes no sense he

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is a large seemingly

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he can be a large intimidating man

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like he . He plays rough

2:35

guys and here he is being a fucking

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crab near a pineapple under

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the sea . I I saw it on one

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of the social medias and I was like that , that

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a joke . It's past April Fools

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and I fucking hate April Fools , so I know

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it's not that . And then it was real . It's

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fucking bizarre .

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She really does hate April Fools folks .

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I fucking hate

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April Fools .

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Oh wait , why Remind me ? Why ?

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It's going to make you sad . I'm going to go ahead and tell all of our

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Listeners I just out of principle , why it's going to make you

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sad . I'm going to go ahead and tell all of our listeners I just

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out of principle , I hate it . That

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is not the purpose of lying . People

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do it poorly . Pranks are stupid

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. There is nothing about the holiday

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itself that I care for . It

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doesn't make any sense to me . It is a day

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where people lie in order not

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to get things or make themselves sound good

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, but just so that somebody thinks something

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for a second before you reveal to them

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the truth . It's the stupidest fucking thing . But

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, what coach was talking

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about is that one

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of our mutual buddies sent

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me a Christmas card when I was back in my old

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place , the studio apartment , which I didn't decorate

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at all . I decorated not , I put no things on

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the wall . I did hang his

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Christmas card with him and his wife and

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their beautiful child on my

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refrigerator with a magnet . And

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then when I was leaving , when I was moving

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out , I took a picture

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, I texted him , I explained that he was

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the only decoration in my apartment and

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then a few days later he texted back

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. I just noticed this , but

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I'm also realizing the day you sent it and maybe I shouldn't believe it and

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that's when I realized I had sent it on April

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1st and I

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wrote back hey , buddy , my

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dad killed himself on February 14th

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and Valentine's is still only my

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second least favorite holiday . I

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do not fuck with April

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Fools and

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I stand by all of that

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. I fucking mean it . I

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hate April Fools .

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It's terrible . I am as

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awestruck this

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time as I was last time . I mean God damn . Struck this time as

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I was last time . I

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mean God

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damn . I mean there's so many levels , the

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fact that that's true , the fact that

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you are able to articulate it yes

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, in such a pithy powerful

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manner . That's what I go for . There's

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a lot there , man , and I love it . Next time

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I hope we bump into somebody else who don't know that story . That

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is just great . That is just great .

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I really mean it . I fucking hate April Fools

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, but anyway , clancy Brown , good

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looking .

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I'm scrolling through Clancy Brown's filmography

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here and it's

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I mean just on first glance

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it's , it's going to be close . Uh

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, he's done so much voice work that

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it might outnumber like

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clone wars um

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lego batman . Obviously

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, you know , like kung fu , panda , pound

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puppies , spongebob wander

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over yonder , doom patrol these

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are all animated robot chicken . Uh

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, I'm like family

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guy . He was on the last airbender rick

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and morty last year . But

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yeah , I'm just like , oh my god , sheriff callie's

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wild west um pickle and peanut . I'm

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just like , god damn , I

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cannot believe how much work .

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I knew he was in everything , constantly working .

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Everybody knows him as Captain Hadley

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from . Shawshank Redemption

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Shawshank right , or the Kurgan

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from Highland . He's been in

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them .

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And also to my discredit I

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just said attractive when he was younger . I should mention

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I did see some stills . I

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didn't watch the newest Star Wars show , oh shit

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, Ahsoka yes , he was in that . Didn't

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look bad in that either .

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I mean , come on , I

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can't pretend that I know , I would say

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no . All right , there's a yeah

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, no , yeah , listen

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, he's a . He's a talented son

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of a gun . Start tales of the jedi . I mentioned

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tales of the sith coming out in just a few

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days . Now may the fourth . Um

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, everyone should watch , anyway , if you're a star wars fan

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. Tales of the jedi , uh is

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outstanding . Um

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, okay , let us

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jump into ted lasso

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. When we , when we left and

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nate had ripped up the sign that guys were

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cheering , we know we are , we're sure we are . And

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then higgy baby comes in and

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sort of flags down sam in the corner

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and I'm like you know , can

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we , can I just enjoy ? My'm like why is he

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getting pulled out ? Oh yeah , oh

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right , business is business , right

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now .

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Business baby . I

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hate the world . There's a billionaire

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waiting on you . You know they're going to come get

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you . Yeah , make him wait . There's

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a lot of that going on in the world . People just tell

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them billionaires , hold your horses there

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should be .

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Yeah , I'm gonna say there's a lot more of it well

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, the recent layoffs at tesla somebody

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should have said it but there you go . Yeah

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, billionaires do hire people to hold their

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horses for them , so they don't have to worry

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about it too much that part I

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mean , are we thinking that billionaires if

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you take the whole cross-section of billionaires and put it up against the cross-section of society

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, that billionaires are better ?

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Wait , what Well they have more money .

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so no , no , no . I'm

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talking like , just like they're

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Whatever , Just

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to get to be .

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We treat them better , does

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that make them somehow intrinsically or inherently better

8:30

.

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No , but that doesn't have anything to do with

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.

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Yeah , I mean , who's a better person ? Sam obisanya

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, who is not a billionaire , or yeah

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, but edwin acufo , by what measure

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that ?

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that's the trouble we always run into and in

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what language ?

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language and by what method ? In what religion ?

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And I mean , I would argue that the bigger issue

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is that , in

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the US at least , what we do

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is say these specific characteristics

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make you a quote unquote good person . And

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I say that because I'm

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not into this vibes based sort of

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morality where it's like , oh well , they seem really

9:03

nice . Therefore I think that they're a good person

9:06

. It's like , well , what did you do , what did you do today

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to be a good person ? In which way did you improve

9:10

things ? Or in which way did

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you stay the fuck out of everybody else's way so

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you didn't make things worse for them ? So

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, good is a hard thing to define . The

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things that we say make you a good person , do

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not make you a billionaire Although

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, thens , society also exalts billionaires , because we're all fucked up in

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almost every conceivable way . Billionaires

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are statistically more

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likely to be sociopaths and

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to actually have , uh

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, sadistic tendencies , like they

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are more likely to be willing to hurt other people

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than your average person . And we , we

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say that's what I'm saying , so

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make them wait .

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No , but that's not how it works

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, sir . No one makes a

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billionaire wait for anything . I'm trying to

9:53

think of an example of somebody making a billionaire

9:56

wait for something . I'm actually right

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now actively trying to think about that

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.

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And I can't think of a single time of jelena's friends was dating

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a billionaire and I

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have had cobb salads with

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more personality than this guy . Yeah , um

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, and I'm just like I don't . And everybody

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tiptoes around him and you know what I mean . I was

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like , oh my god , like

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I made him wait , I

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made him wait , I'm gonna . That's

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my new rule . If I meet a billionaire , they're

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gonna fucking wait . I'll tell you right now , coach

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, I'm doing it every single time . I

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haven't met a billionaire of like . I've met a few of

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them . I met one , two , I

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met four billionaires in my life I

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said and it's not that it's

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not whatever , it doesn't . You know what

10:45

, like I've only like talked to three

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of them one it was just like a handshake , but still like

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none of them were that impressive at all

10:52

at all I usually , usually

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.

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I know that you and I don't see exactly eye to eye in this

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stuff , but I actually 100 agree

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with you and , in

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solidarity , the next

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time that I meet a thousandaire

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, I'm just gonna make them wait because you know what

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. No , no , no , I like that .

11:10

They're probably no , no , they're

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probably lovely people . Hundredaires , hundredaires are

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my people I'm .

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I mean , there's no fucking way I'm meeting a billionaire

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. There is no . There is no world in which

11:20

I am meeting a billionaire . It's not gonna happen

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. If I meet a millionaire and I

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don't even know , uh , I

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don't know if I would know that they're a millionaire , I'd probably

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treat them like shit .

11:30

But that's just how I do general , just

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just copy that yeah

11:37

, yeah , yeah

11:40

, no , yeah , well , um yeah I don't

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know listen I was trying to think like , how do

11:44

I know ? How have I met so many billionaires ? It's

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not , I'm not wealthy . So one

11:48

of them was through , like

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when I , when I went to college

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I'm sorry , when I went to

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, I got , went

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to private schools because I had a sports scholarship

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and and then also like an academic scholarship

12:02

, and so , you know

12:04

, I went to some schools that we probably couldn't afford at

12:06

the time and a lot of the kids of those

12:08

people you know have their names on buildings

12:10

and stuff like that . So I met a couple that way . And

12:13

then Juliana went to Harvard

12:15

and so I met the other one that way

12:17

, and then one in the film industry . That was a good

12:20

. I told you about that one , though . I think that was . That was . That was a good . I told

12:22

you about that one , though . I think that was that was I

12:26

don't know if I all right . So there was this one

12:28

. There was this one

12:30

really quick . We got to get to Ted Lasso . But there was this moment

12:33

where we got invited to . It

12:35

was when . Jesus

12:38

it was I was . It

12:41

was when Arnold Schwarzenegger was governor of

12:44

California . He was the governor . Yeah yeah , yeah

12:46

. And so

12:50

I don't know how we got invited to

12:52

this , but it was his birthday party and

12:55

it was this big thing in

12:57

Brentwood and

12:59

I just got a job as a writer

13:02

for

13:04

this . It was

13:06

like my first screenplay ever sold and

13:08

it's a really exciting thing . When you first saw a screenplay

13:11

in hollywood , you're like , oh , my god , you know it really

13:13

feels like it's , it's a , it's a big deal

13:15

, um , and I remember

13:17

in this meeting so

13:19

I was like had all these impressions of like what it

13:21

was going to be like to be in Hollywood

13:24

. And I remember my

13:26

first meeting , big

13:29

meeting . I was so nervous . I

13:31

went into this production company and

13:36

you just have all these preconceived notions of what Hollywood

13:39

is . And I remember that the guy

13:42

who owned the production company was

13:44

like picking at pimples

13:46

and he had his shoes off

13:48

and I remember his socks going back

13:51

and forth like this and I

13:53

was like this is not a

13:55

lot less cool than what

13:57

. I thought yeah . So

14:02

he ended up buying my screenplay . So

14:07

, uh , that was . He ended up buying , uh , my screenplay . And then I had , you know , this relationship where

14:09

you have in hollywood , which is you , you have a contract and there's writers , guild minimums

14:11

, and you know it's more than I had ever made in my life

14:14

, and but then it gets contentious because

14:16

you like give them a draft and like this doesn't

14:18

count as a technical draft . You know , like what coach

14:21

could tell you he's already shaking his head , just this whole

14:23

sort of sort of whatever

14:25

. Um , so julianne and I go to this , this

14:27

party , I , I set this up to say , like

14:30

the guy , the

14:32

production company owner , you know he

14:34

said his name , you know he's made 100 movies

14:36

, probably , but it wasn't awesome to me um

14:39

, and so , um , we

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go to this governor's party , and

14:45

that's where I met the other billionaire

14:48

who was like hosting it

14:50

, and at his

14:52

house in Brentwood . And then I

14:54

was like this is nauseating . I wanted to go , just

14:56

to go . Julianna didn't want to go , but I was like you know

14:58

, I just want to see what this is . It'll

15:00

be good for writing . This is what we talked about last episode

15:03

the the pitfalls of

15:05

dating a writer , because you just want to experience everything

15:07

and you say like , okay , just want , I want this again

15:10

. Look at , I can talk about it now . If I didn't go , I wouldn't

15:12

be able to talk about . So , um

15:14

, we go out and you had to valet

15:17

your car because you know it's a neighborhood , basically

15:19

. And so julian and I are at the front

15:21

of the line waiting for our car to get dropped

15:23

off and this Bentley

15:25

pulls up onto the street

15:27

. It's in Brentwood , bentley pulls up . I never told you

15:29

guys . This Bentley pulls up and

15:32

it's this big-time producer and

15:36

he's like he calls me over . He's like , hey , he's

15:38

like come here and I go up

15:40

to the driver's door of his car he's got his window down and I go up to the driver's

15:43

door of his car he's got his window down . He's

15:45

like what's going on here ? This is my

15:48

neighborhood . He's like I live right over there and

15:50

I was like , oh , I was like it's

15:53

the governor's birthday party , didn't you

15:55

get it , didn't you

15:57

? Get it Woo

15:59

. All right , that's pretty good and he

16:02

put his window up and drove

16:04

away and I've literally never talked to the guy since

16:06

. I mean , but

16:12

it was a great , it was a Julian . I was like you did not . You're

16:14

like you'll never work for that production company again

16:16

, but it was worth it .

16:17

You definitely pissed in that punch bowl .

16:18

But yeah , I hear you it does

16:20

seem like it was worth it .

16:22

Yeah , it was fantastic , it

16:24

was so great .

16:26

Because we talked just a bit about billionaires

16:28

and the morality associated with that . I need to

16:30

mention there are a couple of very weird

16:32

things and then I promise we'll move on . But number

16:34

one is that very

16:36

often your contentment

16:39

with your own life is not how much

16:41

money you individually have , but how much money

16:43

you have compared to the people that you consider your peers

16:45

. So in your case

16:47

, castleton , when you were going

16:50

to a prep school but going on a scholarship

16:52

and going yeah you know , not boarding

16:54

there and not staying there , I'm sure that the

16:57

difference might have been

16:59

very accentuated for you , it was a gulf

17:01

, it was a gulf , it was a gulf I will say that

17:03

there is a weird gulf

17:06

for me , because

17:08

the private schools in

17:10

the chicago suburb where

17:12

I grew up were exclusively

17:15

religiously affiliated and

17:17

only day schools . Like when you

17:19

say prep schools , I'm like that is

17:21

some old-timey english aristocratic

17:26

bullshit , like it's , it's it is . It

17:28

is like we had holy

17:31

angels and aurora christian and

17:33

that was where you're going to private school and

17:35

if you weren't gonna learn about jesus , you weren't going

17:37

to their fucking school . So it's like , even

17:39

within the three of us now being

17:41

interesting it's . Literally . You're

17:43

talking about billionaires . I could theoretically

17:46

go to a place where I might meet Illinois

17:49

Governor JB Pritzker , who

17:51

is the only billionaire I could name offhand

17:53

who lives in Illinois . It's just

17:55

. God bless

17:57

the Midwest . We got nothing going on in here Outside

18:00

of . Chicago , chicago's fucking amazing .

18:03

That's interesting . Yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah . No , that's interesting

18:05

.

18:05

Yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah . No , it's true , the

18:07

Gulf is there and you're right to say

18:10

yeah , you know , how are

18:12

you compared to your peers ? That

18:15

was , I remember . I remember , like for spring break

18:17

, I knew I would be going to work for my dad's

18:20

factory so

18:26

, like , all my friends would go off and they would literally going to stad and aspen and

18:28

they all had houses all over the world , but they were definitely going . If they weren't

18:30

going to , like you know

18:32

, some resort , they were going to another country

18:35

for spring break and I would get up the next

18:37

morning super early to go into work

18:39

with my dad and he would save

18:41

this big . He is like a . They would sort of . They

18:43

did a lot of die cutting so they would have scrap

18:46

rubber and I remember the smell

18:48

of the rubber . You'll never get it out of your nose

18:50

. It's like when someone

18:52

burns their tires burning type of rubber

18:54

. That's what the factory smelled like all the time . But

19:06

they would cut all of these things out of big sheets of rubber and I would have

19:08

to go measure the scrap rubber with calipers and sort it based on thickness to see

19:10

if we could reuse part of it . Uh , you know , oh yeah , and it was not

19:12

. It was not , but it's fun . Hey , it's character building

19:15

um , but it's um

19:17

. It's a different , you know , it's a different experience than what

19:19

most of my peers were yeah

19:22

, this is um god , I'm

19:24

going to talk so much I was .

19:25

It's because I was on the east coast recently and

19:27

there feels

19:30

to be a certain level of character

19:34

that has not developed in some of your midwestern

19:37

suburbs , like everything . A

19:39

suburb is built in like 10 years , so everything

19:42

in a specific area is from

19:44

76 to 86 and everything

19:46

looks the same and everything is very boring

19:48

. There's not a lot to it . There are a shit

19:50

ton of McDonald's . So

19:53

I swear to God , number one , I did just

19:55

have to look up what Stott is Didn't

19:58

know , did not know what you were talking about there

20:00

.

20:01

Oh well , tell anybody . Sorry

20:03

, right , and I said it as if everyone knows what

20:05

is it I didn't find it .

20:06

I was looking it up and then I had to start talking and I

20:08

couldn't even spell it starts with

20:10

.

20:11

It starts with the g are you fucking kidding me

20:13

? G , s , t , a

20:15

, a , d . It's a skiing , it's

20:17

a city in in switzerland , but

20:19

it's like a , you know , very exclusive

20:22

.

20:22

No , I don't know because it's so exclusive

20:24

, I don't know about it this is what

20:26

I'm this is what I'm trying to . What I'm saying is that

20:28

, like when I was at u of I and

20:30

people were going on spring break which also I , of course

20:33

, was not doing that because , come on , um

20:35

, but I swear to god , one

20:37

of the things they were like we found this new place , cancun

20:40

is over . Nobody's going to cancun anymore

20:42

. We're so past canccun , now we're going to South

20:45

Padre Island , and they were like that is

20:47

the cool place , like that is where we're going to

20:49

go , fucking hang out , jesus

20:51

, this is what I'm talking about . I need

20:53

you to know when you talk to me about , like

20:55

not being able to do

20:58

anything , I am I am

21:00

I exceed at not being able to do anything . I am I exceed at not

21:02

being able to do anything . I am so fucking

21:04

far past most people . We're like hell

21:06

, yeah , let's fly through Brownsville

21:08

, texas , on our way to vacation .

21:14

That's what's up . Yeah , no , no , listen , I

21:17

can't . We got into this by

21:19

saying I think we should make billionaires wait

21:21

. They're not superior , they're not better

21:23

. You know what I mean . In my experience

21:25

, I met

21:28

Malcolm Forbes one time and he was

21:30

like a blast . He was really like

21:33

, he was as good as you know . He was

21:35

about the very , very animated

21:38

and huge personality and amazing

21:40

and sort of really

21:42

, really , that was like the only . I guess there

21:44

were five billionaires I forgot about them , but so

21:46

he was the only one that was like um

21:48

, you know big personality . But there

21:52

was this one guy the most recent one

21:54

I met , no , no , the one before him and

21:56

he and it was like um , we were

21:58

at this . Uh , juliana went to Harvard

22:00

, so we went to these . Every year they have like a Harvard

22:02

or sorry , five years class

22:04

reunion kind of thing . Coach can probably talk about

22:06

this at Yale too . And what's funny

22:09

is , you know they do these things

22:11

like , oh , class of whatever , right , and

22:13

we were able to . You know our goal was to raise

22:15

blah , blah , blah . And if you go to a

22:17

regular college , like I did , to

22:26

raise like 75 bucks from the whole class , right , but at at the ivs . They're

22:28

like our goal is , like , you know , we're trying to hit 200 million this

22:31

year . And you're like are you like ? What did you

22:33

just like ? Like it's , it's , it's

22:36

a preposterous number and

22:38

that's just what the class raised . And then

22:40

, as you dig into it , you find out like like oh , everyone else

22:42

raised , you know , 840,000

22:45

. And then one billionaire gave you know

22:47

100 million because he's got

22:49

a kid that's about to be legacied into

22:51

the school . You know things like that . So , anyway

22:53

, but have you done that , coach ? Have you been

22:55

to any of those fancy ?

22:57

schmancy I have . I usually don't

22:59

pay a ton of attention to the

23:01

speeches that would include what you just said , but

23:04

yes , I've been around for it and I and

23:06

I , I hear it and I get it , it's

23:08

, it's , it is outrageous

23:12

, like

23:19

beyond outrage , the amount of money . That's just sort of like strolling around campus and sometimes I

23:21

have to . You know it's a little different what you described with terms of

23:23

billionaire specifically , but certainly like

23:25

, uh , political

23:27

and like public figures . Like

23:29

I'll be like oh yeah , I know so , and

23:31

like I used to , I used to hang out , like

23:34

I have partied with the attorney

23:36

general of california and

23:39

and was really great friends with his I mean

23:41

even better friends with his wife , who's

23:43

also a politician , like you know , but I don , but

23:45

I don't think you know what I mean Like I don't , I

23:48

think of them as Robin Mielisa , and

23:50

then suddenly someone brings it up and I'm like

23:52

he is the attorney general of California

23:54

, that is true . We have hung out at Harvard

23:56

, yale , at a tailgate , and

23:58

he now is a big fucking

24:01

shot caller . You know there are a bunch of people like

24:03

that , but yeah , anyway

24:05

.

24:07

In the infamous words of the

24:11

great Van Halen 5150

24:14

album contact is all it takes

24:16

, hello neighbor .

24:19

Come on , that's a pull . That was impressive

24:21

, nice , I do love that . Thank you . A pull that was impressive .

24:23

You did nice .

24:24

Nice , I do love that . Thank you , coach Ted

24:27

Lasso . So

24:31

Sam gets called out by Higgins and then

24:33

boss . Will you walk us through this interaction

24:35

here please ?

24:37

Of course . So

24:40

Sam walks into the room and

24:44

, jesus Christ , why am I blanking on

24:46

his name already ? Akufo

24:49

, edwin , that's what I was thinking of . I kept wanting to

24:51

call him Edward , not Edward . Edward , no

24:53

. Edwin Akufo is saying Sam

24:55

hey , sammo hey . Excellent

24:57

performance . Yeah , the goal of course .

25:01

Sammo by the way . Oh yeah , they're buddies

25:03

.

25:03

They're so tight , sam-o , by the way . Oh yeah , they're buddies , they're

25:06

like they're so

25:08

tight , sam-o no I

25:10

. No , thank you , it's so

25:12

. Anyway , keep going . Sam-o

25:15

is worse in a couple minutes than

25:17

it is right now , but keep going .

25:19

I just I'm not sure if I I think I mentioned

25:21

on here there are three people

25:24

in the world that are allowed to call me Emmy and

25:26

you listening right

25:28

now are not them ? When people do that informally

25:31

, somebody it's so it's so insulting

25:33

when , like , I don't know anybody well enough and they try

25:35

to become that familiar , hey , emmy

25:37

, no , no , absolutely

25:40

not .

25:42

Anyway , excellent performance . Are Coach and I part of the three .

25:44

You could do it , I wouldn't get mad at you . I

25:46

would say like no , you could call me m

25:48

, but like I wouldn't get mad . But

25:50

no , not part m m like auntie . Yeah

25:52

, yeah , yeah , I mean , I would call it

25:55

auntie m , but I just talked about how I'm from the culturalist

25:57

midwest , so but yeah , no , no , no

25:59

right , m is great . A lot of people like

26:01

I'm in a lot of phones as M and that's

26:03

fine . All right .

26:05

Okay , yeah , yeah , all right . Well , thank

26:07

you . I thought you were going to say fuck

26:09

, fuck , no , no , you

26:11

wouldn't be doing it in an insulting way .

26:13

You would try it and I'd be like no , I don't really . That's

26:15

not really what I go in for . I

26:18

would yeah .

26:20

I would be trying to get a rise out of you . You would

26:22

be trying to be an asshole , I would be

26:24

putting it after a comma after

26:26

some sort

26:29

of declarative statement Like maybe

26:31

wash your feet . Comma

26:33

Emmy .

26:35

You would be doing it in the same way as our

26:37

buddy who sent me the Christmas card

26:39

. He

26:47

found out that I don't want to be called Emma and would refer to me as that exclusively

26:49

, but this is also why I sent him horrible texts about my

26:52

father's suicide . So like fair play

26:54

.

26:54

Kurt , sorry about it . We're playing

26:56

full contact at this point . Here we go .

26:59

Come on . Excellent performance , yeah

27:02

, the goal , of course , speaks for itself

27:04

, but your tactical discipline

27:06

, hey , they're certainly going to miss you

27:08

around here . And finally

27:10

, sam speaks up as Mr Akufo

27:13

. I truly enjoyed meeting you and

27:15

I am so flattered by your offer

27:17

. I'm sorry , but my answer

27:19

is no , thank you , and

27:21

I don't believe my

27:24

time here at Richmond is over and

27:26

for that reason I have to stay . I

27:28

hope you could understand , which

27:31

, of course , being a billionaire , edwin

27:34

Okufo totally understands .

27:36

And shouts he's like thank you

27:38

, I will have a great day . Home class , here's

27:41

$100,000 for you .

27:42

You Nigerian motherfucker , you

27:46

Yoruba trash . Who the fuck do you think you are

27:48

wasting my time ? You medium

27:50

talent , piece of shit . I

27:53

love that they called out the medium talent yeah

27:55

, medium talent

27:57

yeah , that was great that

27:59

is well so .

28:00

he goes Nigerian , he goes country , then

28:02

he goes tribe you , yoruba , piece

28:04

of of . That's

28:07

like , oh , that's like , okay

28:09

, here's the recent insult

28:11

, here's the ancient insult , yeah . And

28:13

then he's like and I'm going to insult your ability

28:16

, you like medium

28:18

talent , piece of shit .

28:19

Wait , but do we know about medium talent ?

28:22

I don't .

28:22

It's fucking one of my I , I

28:25

, I refuse to believe that it isn't 100

28:28

accurate . I will not call it lore

28:30

, uh , but apparently on

28:32

the set of saturday night live way

28:35

back in the day , uh , bill

28:37

murray and chevy chase got into it .

28:39

It almost came to blows if it did not come

28:41

to , blows it almost came to blows

28:43

. I may heard this story , but I don't remember

28:45

the details Go ahead , go ahead .

28:46

I think we've said it on the show

28:49

before .

28:49

Yeah , as they were

28:51

dragging Bill Murray away Because Chevy

28:53

Chase was the star . He was

28:55

it . He was who everybody was there

28:57

to see . I'm Chevy Chase and you're not

28:59

, and as they're dragging Bill Murray

29:01

away , he shouts down the

29:03

hall medium talent at

29:06

Chevy Chase . It's such a perfect

29:09

insult . It's so fucking

29:11

good .

29:11

Yes .

29:12

It is . I stole directly from

29:14

that sort of vibe . A

29:17

guy I went to high school with became

29:19

my youngest brother's teacher , like

29:22

he was right out of college and my younger brother

29:24

was . I had a couple situations like that yep

29:26

, yep yeah so I was like oh

29:29

, john , yeah , john prochko , john prochko is your

29:31

teacher . And apparently prochko was

29:33

giving him shit . I don't think because

29:35

he knew me , but just because maybe my brother was an asshole

29:38

and I said that's fine . Next time

29:40

he yells at you , you tell him that his performance and

29:42

joseph in the amazing technicolor dream coat was

29:44

mediocre at best and

29:46

that is so wrong , that is .

29:49

So I was like let me

29:51

tell you .

29:51

Let me tell you exactly

29:53

, exactly how to get that guy mediocre

29:56

at best . So wrong , that is

29:58

so wrong . Don't

30:02

be a dick . Um

30:04

, I will dedicate my

30:07

life to destroying you , you fucking asshole , and

30:10

you will never play on the Nigerian

30:12

national team . Hmm , you understand ? You

30:14

understand me , pinky dick ? Never . And I

30:16

will buy your childhood home and I will

30:18

take a shit in every room and then I will burn

30:20

the place down . Yeah , then I

30:22

will sit there , I will eat uh kinky

30:25

and I will poop on the fucking ashes

30:27

.

30:27

I promise you this um

30:31

no , no , we just

30:33

like all that so I'd

30:35

like to return to our previous conversation

30:37

about the practice of making billionaires

30:39

wait . Is there any ? Is

30:41

there anything ? About this reaction that suggests that

30:44

he was going to , uh , patiently wait

30:46

for anyone .

30:47

Oh , also , or the propensity

30:50

of their of them to be sociopath

30:52

.

30:52

This is like so mental , mental , and

30:54

not only that , but he starts

30:56

out For

30:58

me what it points to that we

31:01

all should keep in mind regarding all

31:03

billionaires and those who claim billionaire status

31:05

no names used is

31:08

he'll say anything Like

31:12

literally a minute ago ago

31:14

, this man was fawning

31:16

fawning is not

31:18

too strong a word and because he

31:20

was told no , this

31:23

is where we are , like sam has not

31:25

said anything else since . He said literally

31:28

no , thank you , you could not be any

31:31

more polite , or

31:33

I mean , that's

31:35

his big transgression . That this

31:37

guy has lost his shit Is

31:39

, uh , turns out . I want to keep

31:41

the job I have and not leave with you .

31:44

Mm-hmm .

31:45

Right .

31:45

Well , I think , I think

31:47

, even though he's making a big deal about it right now

31:49

, edwin will get over it

31:51

. Oh , 100% . It seems like as he's . As

31:54

he's leaving , he makes sure I

31:56

will never forget this disrespect . Fuck

31:59

you , sam Obasanya , fucking

32:01

dare . So

32:04

maybe I was wrong , maybe when he said

32:06

I will never forget this disrespect . You

32:10

know what ? Listen , I gotta respect somebody that

32:12

holds a grudge . That's a t-shirt .

32:14

You know what ? Listen , I got to respect somebody that holds a grudge

32:16

.

32:21

That's a t-shirt . So

32:24

Francis goes for the fake handshake , sam goes for it . And then so Sam

32:26

Richardson plays Edwin Acufo . Listen

32:29

, it's really hard to do this kind of physical comedy

32:31

, it's not . I don't know how

32:33

much this landed and I don't

32:35

know the intelligence of like sort of

32:37

finishing the season with it , but

32:42

whatever it was , it had to happen . Sam

32:45

Richardson , sort of like when he said

32:47

you know , I

32:51

don't think my time Richmond has done . Like he had this , like flare of his eyes while he was listening

32:54

. Like wait , you're about to say no to me . And it's like , dude , this

32:56

is your number one draft pick . You're like , oh

32:58

, you're the core of my and

33:00

listen , it's smart . You build a soccer team , you

33:02

want midfielders and

33:05

but like

33:08

he go , the concept

33:10

of like who are you to

33:12

waste my time ? Like you

33:15

know what I mean . Like I , that is so . Oh

33:17

my god , oh man , that rubs me

33:19

the wrong way . God damn , that rubs me

33:21

the wrong . I don't know if there's anything you can like

33:23

, because it's such an iniquity and it's just

33:25

like , are you like ? But he believes

33:27

that it's , it's no different than

33:29

, uh , you know

33:32

, like a caste system . Or

33:34

you know one person thinking like , oh , I , I

33:37

, I , by virtue of whatever fill

33:39

in the blanks I am a more

33:41

important being on this planet than you . It's

33:44

like what ? The is great , we're all . We

33:46

all die the same way , we all

33:48

have . You know , we're all mortal . I

33:50

don't , whatever just does not compute

33:52

for me . But um kufo goes out

33:54

and then he does this . Great , I think it's great

33:57

. I think it's um . Again , I think

33:59

it's great , because it's very difficult to do and

34:01

even harder to pull off , and he generally pulls

34:04

it off . He , there's a mannequin

34:06

with no head

34:08

, he , he strangles

34:11

it and very slowly brings

34:13

it down to the ground and

34:15

slams it down on the ground . Then he squats over

34:17

it and poops and he yells

34:20

, poop , poop , gives him the finger and

34:24

then we're out . Sam

34:26

obviously thinks he made the wrong decision .

34:27

Well , clearly , I mean , you definitely , definitely

34:30

want your future in the hands of this guy , definitely

34:32

want your future in the hands

34:34

of this guy . But

34:44

I don't think it should be lost that Higgins is taking in the insanity down

34:46

the hallway and then looking in through the window in the door at Sam , because

34:48

, remember , for all Higgins

34:51

knows he's about to get

34:53

the hey

34:55

, you've been great , but I'm going to go the

34:57

other way . Higgins doesn't know

34:59

what the answer is . So he's finding

35:01

the way he finds

35:04

out that Sam is staying in

35:06

Richmond is because a kufo is

35:08

down the hallway pantomiming

35:10

, shitting on the head of a

35:12

headless mannequin in

35:14

a richmond kit . That's .

35:17

That's how he got the news yeah

35:19

, and you have to think like a bunny rabbit

35:21

like higgins , uh , this would be a lot

35:23

of conflict . Yes , you know

35:25

, like I could you figure

35:27

higgins probably like goes and sucks his thumb

35:29

a little bit after this , or you know , he's like jesus

35:32

christ , like there's just a lot , it's

35:34

just a lot people who are this

35:36

, uh , you

35:39

know , sort of overtly attacking

35:41

you , just go , wow , you know it's it's

35:43

not the same thing , but I will say I

35:46

grew up and

35:48

I can't .

35:49

I could rattle off scenes and the details of them

35:51

aren't as important as the overall . I

35:53

grew up around a

35:55

lot of chaos , like just in

35:57

my life , like in the neighborhood people

36:00

would be blowing up , yelling at people . You know , even in my

36:02

own family Like I can tell you a story

36:04

of time my brother threw a bottle at my father . I mean it's

36:06

crazy , right , it's just like fucking crazy

36:08

. And there's something every

36:12

once in a while . I'm around someone who

36:15

didn't grow up around that kind of chaos

36:17

when some chaos goes down

36:20

and I'm like , oh

36:24

, poor thing . Like I just want to

36:26

hug because I'm like oh yeah , you must

36:28

feel like the world's coming to an end . No

36:30

, no , no no , let's go grab lunch . It's fine . It's

36:32

fine , but it's not fine

36:34

. It's

36:36

actually not fine . I am the one who's out of the the ordinary

36:39

here , but I'm telling you , people getting

36:41

like screaming matches and I'm

36:43

just like , um , I think I'll

36:45

have the french toast , like I don't okay

36:48

, whatever , it doesn't affect you if you grew up in it

36:50

.

36:50

Boss talked about this a few episodes ago

36:53

where conflict is . You know it was funny and

36:55

I should have quoted this . There was a . I

36:57

noticed some I was reading some oh

37:00

damn it , but they were talking about conflict . I forget what

37:02

I was reading and they're like , conflict is the starting

37:04

point of of resolution

37:07

, like it like and

37:09

so how you ? And so boss

37:11

was saying , oh listen , I don't mind people yelling

37:13

and getting if they know that they're . It's

37:16

not like threat of physical violence or

37:18

anything like that . Boss didn't mind . In

37:20

her own family a little , some raised voices or

37:22

people digging in a little bit , because that's

37:25

where that's how

37:27

things are worked out in a lot of different families . But it is

37:29

true when you have at

37:31

least . I grew up in a crazy house , julianna

37:33

grew up in the opposite . They're

37:35

the loveliest people in the world and so

37:38

I'm totally fine with , like

37:40

, everything exploding around me and

37:42

you know it's just a weird , it's a weird

37:44

, it's a weird . I don't know if it's an advantage

37:46

, but I , but I know it

37:49

makes you not as

37:51

shy around conflict . You know

37:53

you're not as as effective

37:55

.

37:55

I think it can be an advantage

37:57

. I don't think it automatically gives

37:59

you one , but it depends

38:02

on how you want to roll with that If

38:04

you decide . I have

38:08

known people who have grown up in conflict that instead

38:10

of leaning into it and saying we can

38:12

yell and fight and it'll be fine , they instead say

38:15

conflict is bad , I can't ever

38:17

do it . And so then

38:19

they become confrontation

38:22

averse to the point where they will let

38:24

things go even when they want to talk about them

38:26

, because they don't want to have the confrontation or the conflict

38:28

. So I don't

38:31

think it necessarily is one or the other

38:33

. It just it's how you process

38:35

it .

38:37

It's funny you mentioned that piece . The thing that

38:39

I've often reacted

38:41

to is , to

38:54

me , ok , if there's a problem with me , doesn't

38:57

go , doesn't have the conflict , but

38:59

it's just this sort of ongoing

39:02

hum of

39:05

we got a problem here , like

39:07

, like , there's definitely the portion of me

39:09

like that upbringing , there's a portion of

39:11

me that that brings me to look

39:13

, man , you got something to say ? Fucking say it . Like

39:15

there's a level to which I would if

39:17

I'm Sam . I appreciate everyone

39:20

losing their shit over walking

39:22

out like we're good and then me here two

39:25

months later that he said I was an asshole , like

39:27

I was , like you got a problem with me

39:29

. Now If I find out the other way ? Now I got a problem with you . Yeah

39:31

. Now If I find out the ?

39:32

other way . Now I got power too . Yeah , I swear

39:34

to God , if he had shaken Sam's

39:38

hand and said I'm so sorry to hear that , I'd

39:41

have been fucking terrified that means

39:43

that he is coming back with some shit . Yeah

39:45

, yeah , yeah Right , yeah , exactly right

39:47

.

39:47

It would be much more of a power move yeah .

39:51

It's very childish yeah this blowing

39:53

up nonsense like absolutely , the yeah , it's

39:55

very childish . Yeah , this blowing up nonsense Like absolutely , if the quieter and quieter somebody

39:57

gets , I'm like , ah , I'm going to fucking die

39:59

, oh , they're going to , they're going to get me so

40:01

good . It's good If I ever get quiet

40:03

around you . Fucking not good

40:05

. Board , board it up . I love

40:08

, I love it .

40:09

It's like I love . It's like think

40:12

of a riot and do everything

40:14

you would do to get ready for

40:16

said riot and then maybe you'll be

40:18

ready . That's great , it's true

40:21

.

40:21

So we cut from there to the appropriately

40:24

, we cut to press conference and

40:27

Coach walk us through . Ted is sitting

40:29

at the front . Okay , y'all , hey

40:43

settle down y'all .

40:44

Hey , settle down y'all . At this point , very reminiscent of Ted's first very

40:46

nice bookend to Ted not being able to drink water . And Coach

40:48

, walk us through this one . I want to address the article

40:51

written by our good friend Trent Krim from

40:53

the and he looks over at the seat

40:55

where Trent's been all that time and that

40:57

seat is empty . Cameras

41:01

are going , or rather , I want to share with

41:03

you all the truth about my recent

41:05

struggles with anxiety and , well

41:07

, my overall concern about the way

41:09

we discuss and deal with mental health

41:11

in athletics . We

41:18

discuss and deal with mental health in athletics , I was really

41:20

glad they put that in here , and I know we've had other PSA moments that

41:23

we thought I was really , really

41:25

glad they put that in here , I think . Yeah

41:30

, anyway , I've shared my own stories

41:32

in terms of dealing with depression , anxiety and so

41:34

on , and I think there's just

41:36

this fake . It's sort

41:39

of another version of the faking that we're

41:41

okay and shaking my hand and walking out . I

41:43

think we do people a real disservice when we

41:45

demand that they show us

41:47

okay , no matter what they're actually

41:49

experiencing . So yeah .

41:51

Anyway , I know it's a little psa , but

41:54

I was glad I'm

41:56

such a fan I I every time

41:58

some athlete talks

42:00

about their mental uh health and

42:03

they I go . I want to go to bat for

42:05

him . Um , one of my favorite football

42:07

players of all time is a receiver named

42:09

brandon marshall yeah , he got into so

42:11

much shit growing up he

42:14

always made stupid decisions . He

42:16

fucking just put himself . He was just

42:18

an idiot that put himself in bad spots

42:20

and all he's done once I

42:23

think what he got was a great wife . I'm pretty

42:25

sure that's what happened . He married

42:27

up and and she just opened

42:30

his eyes and all he's been working

42:32

for for years and years and years is

42:34

mental health awareness and he's been honest

42:36

about his problems and honest about and

42:39

I remember um nuke hopkins

42:41

, um , there's another

42:43

receiver , one of the best receivers to ever

42:45

play the game , and I remember him saying

42:48

, yeah , I'm in therapy

42:50

, like it was this little thing , and I was like wait

42:52

, what ? Like it's one thing

42:54

to say it in the in the sporting Like . It's one thing to say it in the in the sporting community , it's

42:56

another thing to say it in the black community and

42:58

and and that better than that

43:00

. But there's levels , right , and

43:03

but anytime someone that has that kind of bravery

43:05

and that kind of honesty , it just

43:07

especially in the , in the , you

43:09

know we talk about toxic masculinity

43:12

and where is it more prevalent

43:14

than the NFL ? And

43:17

so to face those moments head on and

43:19

talk about

43:21

mental health is

43:24

it's like when people

43:26

split up healthcare and mental healthcare . It

43:28

makes me I just want to I know , I

43:30

know what part of basic

43:33

human . I just do not get it . And

43:37

every time people assume we know

43:39

everything , doctors

43:41

figure out something else . And

43:44

again , coach and I both were diagnosed

43:46

with ADHD much

43:48

later in our 40s . We

43:51

still have friends who roll their eyes and don't think it's real

43:53

. I know , I know .

44:03

But here's , yes , that is true and that can be challenging . Sometimes I have this what I will share if there's

44:05

anybody out there who's struggling , or maybe you're in a circle where

44:07

people are less

44:09

open to the conversation and so

44:11

on for me

44:13

me , I've made humongous

44:16

strides forward over the last few years

44:18

. Personally , my

44:20

own experience of life and

44:23

one of the key elements of that

44:25

, has been being

44:27

able to just sit

44:29

with the thing I'm actually feeling

44:31

. I am pissed off

44:33

, I sit here and be pissed off for a second

44:36

. Now , sometimes that means go do something

44:38

about the pissed off . Sometimes that means read a

44:40

book , sometimes that means take a nap , but just being with

44:42

it . So I think

44:44

one of the reasons I love this here and I love

44:46

Brandon March from Luke Hopkins and all the people who said

44:48

hold on a second , pay

44:51

attention is if

44:53

you'll do that , then

44:56

there's something you can do about it and

44:58

there's something you can be aware

45:00

of and in charge of . And

45:02

until you do that , then

45:05

it comes out in all sorts of bizarre ways

45:07

and people behave and they make you oh wait where are

45:09

you ? and I'm like the number

45:11

of drunken you know , of

45:14

hangover apologies in

45:16

my life would be cut in half if

45:18

I could have just spent some time going . All

45:20

right , this is anxiety , right

45:26

, but you know , we encourage almost anything else

45:29

where it would have been far more

45:31

acceptable and far more bizarrely

45:33

respectable to be getting in

45:35

bar fights a couple of times a week than

45:37

to say , oh yeah , once a week I go sit

45:39

on , you know , sit in somebody's

45:42

office and tell them what's going on with me , and that's

45:44

insane .

45:45

That is insane . That is , that is .

45:48

Yeah , that's it that that

45:50

part is incredibly insane , and the other

45:52

thing that bothers

45:54

me so much about it is there

45:57

is a very

45:59

strong urge , especially

46:02

in repressed , wasp-y

46:05

Midwestern culture , to pretend

46:07

that everything is fine , to ignore

46:10

the issues to not address them . If you don't pay

46:12

attention to them , we'll

46:14

be fine , like why are you talking about the bad thing

46:16

? Talking about the bad thing calls attention

46:18

to it , but there

46:20

are also times where just saying out loud

46:23

the bad thing robs it of its power

46:25

. Like the way to feel better is you say I

46:27

am afraid I'm not going to get this promotion and I don't know what's

46:29

going to happen after that . And

46:38

if you say it out loud to somebody else , they're like either we'll come up with a game plan , or how

46:40

about if we just wait until we find out ? Like we will figure this out ? So it's . It's

46:42

saying it out loud is so important in order to help you deal with it .

46:44

and the fact that people are like don't talk about your

46:46

problems is the absolute worst fucking thing

46:49

yeah

46:52

, no , it's funny because the , the cultures

46:54

that have taken over

46:56

big parts of the world , are

46:59

historically , you know , repressive

47:01

and don't have a philosophy

47:03

of open communication . You know what I mean . So it's like you're

47:06

sort of fighting it everywhere you look and it's like , oh

47:08

man , um , you know

47:10

, point to a , a world

47:12

system where openness

47:15

and kindness and , you

47:17

know , being honest about your limitations

47:19

, especially as a man , is

47:22

the norm . It's just like it's so crazy

47:24

how humans have

47:26

allowed , you know , this to become

47:28

a point of weakness instead of a point of

47:30

strength . Insane

47:33

Boss , will you walk us through now

47:36

, ted , we , we , we . We

47:38

cut from from that scene

47:40

to Rebecca's office . We get a , we get

47:42

a shot of a single of Rebecca at her desk

47:44

. And will you walk us through this boss ?

47:47

Yeah , absolutely so

47:49

. After he gets done , saying that

47:52

, Ted comes up and says , hey boss , just wanted to congratulate

47:54

you on your promotion , and she says

47:56

you too , Ted Champagne to celebrate

47:58

Says no , I'll

48:00

just take a glass of water , please . Big

48:03

water day for him , apparently . And

48:05

she jokingly

48:08

kind of says still

48:10

, or sparkling . He said , yes , still

48:12

Right . You know , before

48:14

living here I used to think that still water was just folks

48:17

saying that it was still water . You know , like it was

48:19

water and it continues to remain to be water

48:21

. At this point

48:23

I need to I'm sure I've said it before , but call out

48:25

Mitch Hedberg's phenomenal

48:28

joke of I used to do drugs

48:30

, I still do , but I used to do

48:33

them also . Yes , yes , Because I fucking love do drugs , I still do but I used

48:35

to do them also .

48:35

Yeah , yes , cause I fucking love

48:38

that guy .

48:39

Oh my God , every fucking line

48:41

was like that . Um

48:43

, so after that

48:45

, uh , uh , she

48:48

says well , there is no greater education than travel

48:50

. And he says hey , freaking man .

48:52

It's like the most dismissive

48:54

, yeah , like british well

48:56

um anyway , so funny

48:58

. So on on brand for each one of them . Okay

49:00

, sorry , keep going uh uh .

49:03

Says so well , hey , next season

49:05

should be fun , right ? Uh , well

49:07

, that will include one of our . Well

49:11

, that'll include an old friend . Rupert

49:13

bought west ham united and

49:15

he says did ? He now said well , that'll be

49:17

a nice change , having our run-ins with him being

49:19

scheduled , as opposed to his normal sneak

49:22

attacks . And

49:24

which excellent point

49:26

. Because rupert is an asshole

49:28

and will intentionally show up at places that he shouldn't

49:30

, when he shouldn't be there , in order

49:32

to ruin rebecca's day yeah

49:35

, he's good .

49:35

He's good with that he's great with that . That's a

49:38

sure sign that he's over her and done

49:40

with it uh , it's funny ted and

49:42

and keely had generally the same response

49:46

about rupert , like oh okay , this will be . This

49:49

will standardize it a little bit more . It's funny

49:51

that they both had that sort of yeah

49:53

, I , I generally like I .

49:56

I could actually see , though , that the surprise

49:58

of a person would be somehow worse

50:00

. Um , oh yeah it

50:03

, it , I , uh have said

50:05

before that one of my favorite

50:07

things about jeremy allen white going from being

50:09

the love of my life as lip gallagher to

50:12

being Carmen Berzato

50:14

on the Bear is that when he became

50:16

, when he started becoming

50:18

a meme , when he started showing

50:20

up , like on Twitter and stuff , it

50:23

was like running into a crush , which is a

50:25

thing that doesn't happen to you when you're a 43-year-old

50:27

woman in a long-term relationship . Right

50:30

you never see somebody

50:32

that you aren't expecting to see , that you

50:34

have feelings for , so , like all of a sudden , he would

50:36

be on Twitter and

50:38

so yes , there's . In the same way

50:40

, seeing somebody you

50:42

hate when you weren't expecting to is

50:45

not a pleasant surprise .

50:47

No , especially when it's Rupert .

50:48

God , especially when it's fun , rupert .

50:50

So Sam walks in and says

50:52

hi , Rebecca , Ted is now sitting on the couch

50:54

. So Sam walks in and says hi , Rebecca , Ted is now sitting

50:57

on the couch and

51:01

you know he sees Ted there . And Coach oh , yes , yeah , oh , hey , Coach , Hi

51:04

.

51:04

Rebecca . Oh

51:07

, yes , it's . If not , if everyone

51:10

in the room had not known beforehand what was going

51:12

on with them , everyone in the room would have known

51:14

after this . This is yeah

51:16

.

51:20

I am hoping Ted would pick up on this at least . Yeah for sure . Rebecca looks

51:22

like a deer caught in the headlights . She's

51:29

just kind of stuck . It's a great shot . Hannah Wattingham man

51:31

. Oh God damn , she's so good , so she's

51:33

just sitting there . Sam

51:35

is about to peace out

51:37

and maybe he's like

51:39

sorry , and he's about to hit the

51:41

dusty trail . Ted

51:44

says no , hey , sam , go ahead , stick around . I was getting

51:46

ready to leave . And you

51:49

know , rebecca says no . No , ted stay . No

51:51

, it's okay , so he sits down . Why would

51:53

you ? No , it's okay , so he , he sits down .

51:55

Why would you tell him it's okay to stay Like

51:57

? I mean , this

51:59

is not how you make this less awkward .

52:02

Like there's not , it's just . Yeah

52:05

, I mean , it's just polite in one way

52:07

, but it's also . It's also

52:09

like trying to head off , like

52:11

I don't know , I don't know it's so interesting , oh

52:13

no , no , it's fine , I'm sure it's . You know , like I

52:16

don't know , it's really it's an interesting

52:18

choice . He just sits down super awkward

52:20

and then what happens here , boss ?

52:21

uh well . Then he says oh okay , well , um

52:23

, uh , in that case , I

52:26

just wanted to let you both know that I've decided to stay

52:28

. To which ted

52:30

says hey , that's great , sam .

52:32

And rebecca finally says uh

52:34

, yes , I'm glad to hear that , sam how

52:36

did rebecca breathe for

52:38

the first time since he walked in there , like

52:41

she literally like exhales

52:44

. He's like , oh , thank god , uh

52:46

, and yeah , that's great sam oh , that's great

52:48

, oh , okay .

52:51

And then , of course , how did Edwin

52:53

Okufo take the news ? Not

52:57

well , he

52:59

stormed off . He's

53:01

already halfway back to Ghana

53:03

. Oh shoot , I was really looking forward

53:05

to getting that final goodbye handshake from Francis

53:07

. Is

53:11

Ted's only response ? Not

53:18

that the billionaire who was here trying to form a professional team or poach one

53:20

of their best players , none of that . Just , I was really looking forward to that other handshake .

53:23

Well , you know , listen , coach , if uh coach

53:25

, uh uh coach bishop

53:28

. Um god

53:30

, I remember him so fun . You remember him . Uh , remember

53:33

he used to be on this podcast .

53:34

I do Apparently power

53:37

outages .

53:39

Power outages in Los Angeles have foiled

53:43

Coach Bishop so that he will miss the end

53:46

of the final episode .

53:48

Either that or he just decided to bounce

53:50

, and this was the easiest way of getting it done .

53:53

He just hates Ted Lasso . He's like I I

53:55

have no love left for the show and

53:58

I can't possibly talk about it for one more

54:00

second . But

54:02

yeah , coach Bishop , if he were

54:04

here he would definitely

54:06

say that it's on

54:08

brand for Ted to

54:11

appreciate the , the

54:13

handshake from the , from an assistant

54:16

as much as , um

54:18

, you know , any interaction with the billionaire

54:20

, because for ted there's no such thing as a small interaction

54:22

. That goes right back to to

54:24

our very first episode boss

54:26

, very first recording um

54:29

, ted . I remember coach bishop saying I think

54:31

ted would say , like what is a small interaction

54:33

? There's no such thing . So

54:38

he says why did you decide to stay ?

54:39

Ted wants to know and he says I

54:42

wish I could say it was because of my feelings for you , but

54:44

the truth is , I think I need to stop

54:47

worrying about how others feel about me . I'm

54:49

staying because it's what's best for me in my personal

54:51

journey , because it's what's best for me in my personal journey , which

54:54

so

54:57

I understand why . I

55:02

have mentioned before having issues with

55:04

platitudes and how they are often insufficient in a lot

55:06

of circumstances . I

55:09

was talking this weekend about the idea

55:11

of he'd give you the shirt off his back . He's

55:13

such a nice guy , he'd give you the shirt off his back and

55:16

I think , if you stop to think about it for a second

55:19

, what's sort of underneath that

55:21

? Number one does that mean he has

55:23

a shirt at home ? Are we giving somebody credit because

55:25

they have the privilege of being able to give away

55:27

things and we need to keep that in perspective

55:29

. Number two it's definitely

55:31

a man , because a woman couldn't give you the shirt off

55:33

her back , because the woman giving you the shirt off her back

55:36

would be arrested for indecency . That'd

55:38

be a whole fucking thing what a , what a

55:40

hard invited in by me there

55:42

he is , he's back hi

55:45

, welcome back , coach , welcome back um

55:48

, but so just a lot of

55:50

what he is doing is recognizing

55:52

that basing the decisions in

55:54

his life on other people's wants

55:57

or needs isn't going to

55:59

ultimately serve him or

56:01

the other people . So when he says

56:03

I need to figure this out for myself that

56:05

focusing on what is best

56:07

for you isn't inherently selfish , and I think

56:09

sometimes , especially in our bifurcated

56:13

sort of way , we say if you

56:15

do for other people , that's good , and if you

56:17

do for yourself , that's bad and he is figuring

56:19

out that there is actually

56:21

the much better middle ground where

56:23

you take care of yourself

56:25

so that you can take care of other people .

56:31

Yeah , no , no , no . This is very well said

56:33

. It's something I've learned , I think , the

56:35

hard way that you have to take

56:37

care of yourself . I remember , uh , growing up

56:39

, my mom would

56:41

eat last and , and it

56:43

was like a thing that she

56:45

would do to be like , oh , look , how I love my family , and I

56:47

naturally adopted it with my , with

56:50

my family , and then I was like , wait a

56:52

second , this is like some martyrdom

56:54

bullshit , like this is like some , yeah

56:57

, performative . I'm like , no , I'm

56:59

like sometimes , when I'm cooking , I'll be like

57:01

I do most of the cooking for our family , um

57:03

, and I'll be like , no , I'm gonna , I'm gonna

57:06

eat some , I'm gonna eat some of whatever I'm cooking

57:08

. So I have the energy to finish the goddamn

57:10

cooking . Sometimes , especially

57:12

, I tend to be one of those people where , um

57:15

, there's like a period

57:17

, it's like right around dinner time , like

57:19

between 5 and 5 30 , my , my

57:21

, just my . I don't

57:24

know if it's insulin level dips or whatever I just get

57:26

. I get worn out , and that's

57:28

a perfect time . It's usually when I'm cooking and , uh

57:30

, so you get a little snack , you get a little , uh

57:32

little bite of dinner before everybody else and

57:34

all of a sudden , you have the energy to push through . So

57:37

, yeah , you do have to and

57:39

I I like this about what Sam

57:41

says , like I've taken the time

57:43

to think about my personal journey and this

57:45

is the . This is the right move . It does not feel

57:47

selfish .

57:48

Did you ever consider how it was

57:50

that mama bear's porridge was

57:52

too cold , even though papa

57:54

bear's was too hot and baby bear's was

57:56

just right ?

57:58

right .

57:59

Yeah , no , I never thought of that , but you're out

58:01

, you're absolutely right , yeah she absolutely didn't

58:03

eat so that she could get a dish for either one of

58:05

them yeah

58:07

, yep , yeah

58:09

, that's very wow

58:11

yeah no , I

58:13

really am like , yeah , my one got if it's very Wow , yeah , no , I really

58:15

Mind blown .

58:16

It's funny that just came up because I'm

58:19

trying to remember where , but somebody was referencing

58:21

that story recently

58:23

and pointed out that we were taught

58:26

Was it you ?

58:27

No , no , no , but that might have been on threads or someplace yeah

58:29

.

58:30

Oh , maybe because they pointed out that

58:32

we were taught to root against

58:35

the bears when all they were doing was

58:38

protecting their house . It's our

58:40

house , it's our parrots , it's our beds . What

58:42

the fuck's going on ?

58:43

here , A blonde bitch rolls

58:45

into your house and steals your food and passes

58:47

out in your bed and we're like oh , those mean bears

58:50

no .

58:51

Absolute , bullshit . No , yeah

58:53

, yeah .

58:53

No , no , no . This is exactly

58:55

Look no further than

58:58

fairy tales . I

59:00

mean , Jack and the Beanstalk is

59:02

about a little shit that comes up in the schools . He's

59:04

an asshole . Yeah , he's a total asshole . Steals

59:07

from some giants minding their own business .

59:09

Minding their own business . Anyway , sorry , go ahead .

59:12

So Sam says this very profound

59:14

thing , Rebecca is

59:16

kind of just shocked and

59:19

Ted says what here , coach ?

59:21

So Rebecca sits down , they're right in there

59:23

, win the whole fucking thing blocking

59:26

and Ted is

59:28

processing . That was kind of intense for

59:31

everybody and he says he might have been talking

59:33

to you when he yes

59:36

, I know that , ted , which I don't

59:39

know why I enjoyed that as much as I did , but I very

59:41

much enjoyed it I laughed

59:43

out loud .

59:44

He might have been talking to you when he was looking at me . No

59:49

, fucking shit that's

59:52

great .

59:53

And then she frankly

59:56

inhales and the

59:58

entire flute of champagne oh

1:00:00

yeah and yes , ted says

1:00:02

, oh hell , you crushed that , which

1:00:05

it just makes me think , like ted

1:00:07

has had many a drinking night . Like we

1:00:09

are catching ted on the maybe I shouldn't

1:00:11

quite drink as much as I do . Part of his life

1:00:13

which I've had , I've had that phase

1:00:15

, so I get it . But he still , like he

1:00:17

knows the mechanics of

1:00:19

it , like he knows what to say , he

1:00:21

knows how it goes , he knows where beer's

1:00:24

headed after that crushing

1:00:26

defeat , he knows all of it . And yeah

1:00:28

, so you crushed that . Yeah

1:00:32

, it was a lot Sam , sam , sam

1:00:34

, sam . Be all grown up .

1:00:40

Yes , sir , no , he really , yeah

1:00:44

, no

1:00:46

, it's a powerful moment . Rebecca's going to have

1:00:48

to take a beat To

1:00:51

absorb All of the ramifications

1:00:53

Of Sam staying . I think you

1:00:56

, you know , in that same way , it feels like a lot of people

1:00:58

had prepared for the worst

1:01:00

. With sam , it's a very difficult offer

1:01:02

to to pass up . You know

1:01:05

, sort of be the hub of a whole

1:01:07

franchise and um , it's

1:01:09

, uh , I also , it's how I prepare my

1:01:12

kids . I'm like assume it's not going to go your way and then , if it does

1:01:14

, you know , I don't know if

1:01:16

it's good parenting or not , but it's a trick

1:01:18

that I always use where I just say like okay , like I'm

1:01:20

not going to slide all my chips in

1:01:23

and bank on like the best possible

1:01:25

outcome happening because it so rarely does . Ted

1:01:28

then walks . We cut to Ted walking

1:01:30

outside through the

1:01:32

gates , through the door

1:01:35

that goes to the innards

1:01:38

of Nelson Road , and he's out

1:01:40

in the parking lot where I mean so many things

1:01:42

. It's like when first

1:01:45

we saw , kind of fell in love with Roy and

1:01:47

so many other great moments in this

1:01:49

parking lot and as he walks past- .

1:01:51

By the way , he also waited here for jamie

1:01:53

. When jamie tried

1:01:56

, just for flash , we saw jamie's

1:01:58

potential . Uh , lasso

1:02:00

away , goodness , but the exact same

1:02:03

configuration . Now it's day .

1:02:04

Yes , exactly right , that's

1:02:06

right . Trent was waiting here and

1:02:08

jamie almost got away with it and

1:02:11

then turned back and was a total early

1:02:14

, early era . Jamie tart

1:02:16

, that's right . Um , and trent

1:02:19

says what here ? Uh , coach coach

1:02:22

lasso .

1:02:24

And , uh , ted's excited . Hey , there he

1:02:26

is . I was worried about you . I

1:02:28

thought you might have been in a bike accident . Which

1:02:30

very specific thing to say

1:02:32

, um , but we

1:02:34

understand why he might've said that specifically . And

1:02:37

then , actually , I don't know how to ride a bicycle

1:02:39

. I didn't remember

1:02:42

that line significant . And

1:02:44

then , really , that surprises me . Why

1:02:46

? Because of the hair and the whole vibe , yeah

1:02:48

, I guess . So why the heck weren't

1:02:51

you at the press conference ? Because

1:02:53

I am no longer a reporter

1:02:55

. I was fired . When they found out

1:02:57

I revealed an anonymous source . Oh

1:03:00

snap , I didn't say anything

1:03:02

, I promise . No , I know , ted , I

1:03:04

did . I'm looking for something

1:03:06

different . Deeper says

1:03:14

you got to follow your bliss , right , sorry , you're out of a job . You know what this makes

1:03:16

you . Now , though , right , trent cram independent . And

1:03:19

then , uh , trent chuckles

1:03:22

and says yeah , my father

1:03:24

made the same joke . Um

1:03:27

, and then the next line made me laugh out loud

1:03:29

, which was yeah , he sounds like a cool guy . No

1:03:32

, he does not sound like a cool guy , ted , he sounds . He does not

1:03:34

sound like a cool guy , ted . He sounds like the fucking opposite

1:03:36

of a cool guy . So I

1:03:38

just , oh God , I love this man . It's

1:03:41

so funny .

1:03:41

It's so brutal .

1:03:42

Oh God awful . Well

1:03:45

, I hope our paths cross again soon

1:03:47

, trent , as

1:03:49

do I , ted , I love our chats

1:03:51

. He offers him a ride

1:03:53

. Well , I prefer to walk , but

1:03:56

I appreciate you and Ted , good

1:03:59

luck next season . He calls after him

1:04:01

, they part ways

1:04:03

and he goes to open . And Trent

1:04:06

goes to open his car and realizes

1:04:08

he has locked himself out

1:04:10

of his car . He's

1:04:12

going nowhere Interesting

1:04:16

himself out of his car .

1:04:17

He's going

1:04:19

nowhere . Interesting . I mean I , I was like that is such a weird

1:04:21

cut , like what . I

1:04:24

was like what is the statement why ? I was like

1:04:26

they just needed an out and they're like , oh , maybe he locked

1:04:28

himself out of his car , like , okay , yeah , keep that . I'm like what is

1:04:30

? Because ? Trend is like very

1:04:32

, he's drawn tight , like he's , he's

1:04:35

, he's , he's , he's not

1:04:37

, he doesn't you know , sort of present

1:04:39

as a fuck up . Well

1:04:41

, it's interesting . Oh , now that he's not a journalist

1:04:44

, now everything's going to fall apart . For I was like what

1:04:46

is well ?

1:04:47

anyway , I don't , I'm not sure , I'm not sure

1:04:49

about that , but I but I'll

1:04:51

, but

1:04:54

I'll . Sometimes I think we do things Despite

1:04:56

ourselves and when

1:04:59

you know you forget something at someone's

1:05:01

place , or this or that , I

1:05:03

think , we leave there and Trent Is

1:05:06

at the moment unable to leave Richmond

1:05:08

behind . I

1:05:11

think that's an interesting piece of writing , yeah that's very interesting

1:05:13

, I like that .

1:05:13

Take quite a bit of writing . Yeah , that's very interesting , I like that . I like that

1:05:15

take quite a bit . I just thought it would

1:05:17

have been like , oh , we

1:05:19

would have cut on . Oh , why don't we get

1:05:21

some Indian food , or why don't we like ? Yeah , I'd like that

1:05:23

, and then I believe there's a hundred ways to

1:05:25

cut out of this , but then we go

1:05:27

to black . I Shit season's

1:05:30

over .

1:05:30

Yeah , no , they just . They really wanted you to know about

1:05:32

Trent , what was happening with him . I

1:05:35

would only like to briefly I'm not going to relitigate

1:05:37

any of this I

1:05:39

would like to briefly mention that reminded me a lot of the

1:05:42

line from Star Wars about

1:05:44

how a lot of Bothan spies

1:05:46

died in order to get the Death Star plans

1:05:48

out . And

1:05:50

when you make a sacrifice , the sacrifice needs to be

1:05:52

honored . So

1:05:58

ifrent was the one that gave ted the information and then ratted himself out so that it would be

1:06:00

on the up and up .

1:06:01

I do feel like ted owed that information a bit more

1:06:03

than he did with it yeah

1:06:07

, star wars rogue one huh , you

1:06:10

know , that's an interesting

1:06:12

angle on that part of the conversation and

1:06:14

I I hear what you're saying about not relitigating it

1:06:16

, but I do think . But

1:06:19

I'm gonna do it anyway no , no but no

1:06:21

, but I drop in america , but

1:06:24

I think , ted , I think , yeah

1:06:26

, I didn't think about it that way , but is there

1:06:28

a level of

1:06:31

it

1:06:33

was done like almost like in vain , like

1:06:35

I told you what was

1:06:37

happening , you allowed the chaos

1:06:40

to continue . Trent must

1:06:42

know that Nate was on the sideline today

1:06:44

. I

1:06:46

mean , I don't know , I don't get the sense from this exchange

1:06:49

that he's like what the fuck ? What's he still doing working

1:06:51

here . But I get what you're

1:06:53

saying . I think there's something there .

1:06:55

I don't think it was expressed , but it felt that way for

1:06:58

me .

1:07:00

So five days later , boss , five days later , and

1:07:03

what happens ?

1:07:04

Um Keely

1:07:07

is moving out of her office at

1:07:10

Richmond in order to go form

1:07:12

her own startup and be the CEO . Uh

1:07:15

, roy walks in . This is the last of it

1:07:17

. Uh , yeah , just these and Trixabel . And

1:07:19

he says right , I got you a last

1:07:21

day working in the same building , present here

1:07:24

, and she says airplane tickets , you

1:07:26

got me airplane tickets . Uh

1:07:28

, to Maribel , how did you get these actually

1:07:31

printed tickets ? She said for

1:07:33

my travel agent , kathy . She's old school

1:07:35

, not like you , roy , not like having

1:07:37

a travel agent . Definitely Kathy

1:07:39

is the one that's old school , not that's

1:07:42

really funny . Roy

1:07:45

, are you sure they still Take paper tickets at

1:07:47

airports ? Like is the

1:07:49

plane going to have Propellers ? Oh my god , am I going to have propellers

1:07:51

? Oh my god , am I going to be able to smoke on the flight Right

1:07:54

? Stop it .

1:07:55

That was great .

1:07:56

Yeah , that does , that's . Funny . That's

1:07:59

very funny , I have seen Just

1:08:01

flying in the past Flying in the past you still

1:08:03

shouldn't smoke on airplanes . I

1:08:05

can't believe they tell you to turn off your cell phones , but

1:08:08

they used to let you fucking smoke cigarettes on an

1:08:10

airplane . It's fine , fine , whatever that

1:08:13

cell phone is it's a lie

1:08:15

keep going um , it's a lie

1:08:17

, right , stop it . You are missing the point

1:08:19

. Tomorrow , you and I

1:08:21

are going to a villa by the sea for six

1:08:23

weeks so you can chill out before

1:08:25

you start kicking ass in your new job . And

1:08:28

I'm going to take the first holiday

1:08:30

since I was a child

1:08:32

where I don't have to stay in shape or

1:08:35

rehab my fucking knee . I'm going to

1:08:37

gorge myself to death on tapas

1:08:39

and it'll take fucking

1:08:41

ages . And she

1:08:44

says babe , thank you , but

1:08:47

I can't go . What ? Why

1:08:49

not ? I don't start work

1:08:51

in six weeks ? I started like a week

1:08:53

ago . And he says yeah , I know , that's why I made

1:08:55

sure the place had proper Wi-Fi and everything and

1:08:58

you could do your emails and shit , but from the

1:09:00

balcony with a sea view . And she says

1:09:02

Roy , I'd love to , but I can't

1:09:04

. I just can't , which

1:09:07

is exactly what you want

1:09:09

your partner to say when you plan a an

1:09:12

exciting getaway . We'll talk about

1:09:14

this in a second . But maybe six weeks is a bit much

1:09:16

, roy . Maybe a weekend would have

1:09:18

been a better way of starting A

1:09:20

little aggressive a little aggressive a little

1:09:22

aggressive , Um . But

1:09:24

then she says but you should go . And he

1:09:27

says are we breaking up ? And

1:09:30

she says , no , why would you say that ? Of course not

1:09:32

. You are going to take a well-earned

1:09:35

holiday , while I lock myself in a dark room

1:09:37

and work nonstop and I will

1:09:39

see you in six weeks . And

1:09:41

he says Keely . And she says , Roy

1:09:43

, I love you , We'll be fine , I'll

1:09:46

see you in six weeks . It

1:09:50

doesn't bode well for

1:09:53

them actually seeing each other in six weeks .

1:09:56

Well , it's interesting because

1:09:59

I had a lot of reactions to this , because

1:10:02

I remember I was more

1:10:04

with Roy emotionally

1:10:07

, like I was feeling his , I guess , because he's the one that's hurting

1:10:09

in the scene . So I'm kind of like , oh no , emotionally , like I was feeling his , I guess , because he's the one that's hurting in the

1:10:11

scene . So I'm kind of like , oh no , and and I got

1:10:13

where he had

1:10:15

been already feeling , um

1:10:17

, anxious or whatever

1:10:20

the right word is , and this would only add

1:10:22

to it . Got that part

1:10:24

. I think

1:10:26

it's

1:10:29

a real , um , okay , I , I think

1:10:32

it's a real , okay , I think it is

1:10:34

. It says a lot about how

1:10:36

much we bring to conversations

1:10:39

in terms of what's being said to us and how

1:10:41

we process it . That

1:10:43

she could not say anything

1:10:45

here that actually was going to help him

1:10:47

get rid of the anxiety .

1:10:50

Yes , yeah , that's in the same way . Right , get rid of the anxiety

1:10:52

. Yes , yeah .

1:10:52

That's in the same way , right , she's crystal clear

1:10:54

, right , she's not . Like

1:10:57

you know what ? Why don't you go

1:10:59

? You know ? It's like I

1:11:01

will see you in six weeks , I love you . Like it's

1:11:03

all the right things , perfectly

1:11:05

said , and he can't hear it . He's

1:11:08

like , yeah , that's what you say now Interesting

1:11:11

.

1:11:12

Well , because I watch too much TV , I

1:11:16

will say that this was already cursed , because

1:11:18

Diane Chambers said to Sam

1:11:20

Malone I'll see you in six

1:11:22

months .

1:11:24

Is that real , that's real .

1:11:26

Yeah , these

1:11:28

bastards .

1:11:32

They're so slick with it . Oh my

1:11:34

God .

1:11:35

Yeah , so we

1:11:37

had . We had to know that that was not

1:11:40

going to be ideal . It

1:11:42

wasn't ideal Also that Roy allowed his

1:11:44

anxiety to convince him to plan the

1:11:47

six week vacation without consulting her or

1:11:49

or without considering what it does .

1:11:52

Yeah .

1:11:53

This was him saying I'm giving you this great thing . Hang

1:11:55

on , please . Stay here , please . And it's like

1:11:57

no if you had given her what she needed what she

1:11:59

needed was a little bit of space right now and

1:12:01

your security in the relationship . I

1:12:04

think it would have gone way better .

1:12:17

I really love hearing both of you have have takes on this . I I was wounded because I was like

1:12:19

I thought roy did a really good job . I thought he put a lot of effort , he got the

1:12:21

wi-fi . He's like it's not like he's like clueless about

1:12:24

what she's up to , but yet still

1:12:26

, even with all that , she's like for whatever

1:12:28

reason , she just can't . And I'm like man

1:12:30

, that's like because he , he

1:12:32

put the effort in , he really thought about

1:12:35

this . Yeah , he , you know , found

1:12:37

the right situation . He's like you're just at your desk

1:12:39

at home I know you started already

1:12:41

, but you don't have to be here for this and

1:12:43

then she's like like it

1:12:45

just was , it was like a non-starter for her . She's like , yeah

1:12:47

, no , I can't . I just in her mind

1:12:49

, she couldn't get past it . And , and she

1:12:51

gets , she has the right to you know well the

1:12:53

decision for herself . Obviously she definitely has the right

1:12:56

. It felt like a rejection , right

1:12:59

, I don't , certainly she didn't mean it for for

1:13:01

it to be a rejection , but it's hard

1:13:03

to . It's actually like hyper

1:13:05

rational . Because she's like , well , no , I can't , and that sucks

1:13:07

. I don't want to go into why . There's like , well , no , I can't , and that sucks , I

1:13:09

don't want to go into why . There's like a million reasons . Maybe

1:13:12

it's just she just can't because mentally

1:13:14

she needs to be near Whatever , who knows

1:13:16

, it doesn't matter . But she's like well , you should go . She

1:13:18

doesn't want to limit him . She's actually saying something kind

1:13:20

to be starting this business , but

1:13:35

I don't know . It's tough . I know where he was hearing

1:13:38

.

1:13:39

It definitely could be , because I

1:13:41

felt from I think in part it's funny

1:13:43

. I don't know that I was in touch with him until you just said that

1:13:45

, but there's so much around

1:13:48

that I'm aware of around women

1:13:50

talking about the guy planning things

1:13:53

or thinking through and

1:13:55

, you know , it seemed like he checked all

1:13:57

the boxes , like even when she said I've been working for

1:13:59

a week and he's like I know , like it wasn't like you

1:14:01

have , which I could totally

1:14:04

see happening even in a solid

1:14:06

relationship . So

1:14:09

, yeah , I guess I was like oof . Looking

1:14:13

at it now , I think I would have if

1:14:16

I'm , you know , if I'm a diamond

1:14:18

dog and Roy brings it to us , I think I say

1:14:20

, well , don't go , then you

1:14:23

don't go . Go when both of you can go . Yeah

1:14:25

, don't go alone and sit there and be upset

1:14:27

, or bring a friend go

1:14:33

alone and bring a friend , bring me .

1:14:34

If I'm beard , I'm like I have six weeks yeah , let's go have a romantic .

1:14:35

He leaves the tickets on , yeah , yeah , he leaves the tickets on the desk and growls the

1:14:37

tricksy bell and I'm like , wow , okay

1:14:39

, that's the end of uh , season two . But

1:14:41

lo and behold , nope . Now

1:14:44

, three weeks later , this , this is a real

1:14:46

, this is a

1:14:48

like in the in

1:14:50

the industry . These little

1:14:53

car like this is like sort

1:14:55

of a mark of shame I don't know

1:14:57

how to describe , but it's like you couldn't fit it into

1:14:59

the main narrative . So now you're like , oh tack

1:15:01

on a few extra bullshit things and

1:15:03

and every time . So

1:15:05

every time there's a new one , I my insides

1:15:08

tense up .

1:15:08

I'm like yeah , I definitely

1:15:11

had . I definitely had some of that . Like

1:15:13

now you guys , you know you're

1:15:15

not supposed to be doing but yeah , it's fine

1:15:17

, I love ted lasso , but yeah , I definitely

1:15:19

was aware that . Like what do you mean ? Five

1:15:21

weeks later , three weeks , what's going on here ?

1:15:24

yeah , what and why is it different increment

1:15:26

anyway . So three weeks later

1:15:28

coach what happens here all

1:15:31

right .

1:15:32

So three weeks later , we

1:15:34

fade up and

1:15:36

sam obisanya

1:15:39

is staring at

1:15:41

something , and then there's a woman standing

1:15:43

next to him . She hands him some keys , he

1:15:45

pulls out his phone and

1:15:49

takes a picture . What , what's it going to

1:15:51

be ? I want to know too . What are we looking

1:15:53

at ? A Nigerian restaurant

1:15:55

. Edwin Akufo

1:15:58

planted a seed a

1:16:00

different and it played out different than he

1:16:02

thought . Instead of Sam

1:16:04

having to go home , he's going

1:16:06

to bring a bit of home to his new home

1:16:08

, and that's pretty powerful

1:16:11

stuff .

1:16:11

So I thought I was like oh , and then , okay

1:16:13

, that's it for the season . That's it , we go to black

1:16:15

. That's it for the season and no

1:16:17

code , is that ?

1:16:18

wait . Oh , I see , I see more words

1:16:21

.

1:16:21

I see more words on the screen oh no

1:16:23

, it can't possibly be so we , what

1:16:25

do we jump ? Five weeks later

1:16:27

, three .

1:16:28

Three weeks , then three weeks and now two months

1:16:31

, oh wait Five days , it can't be months .

1:16:32

Five days , oh , no , five days , oh

1:16:35

excuse me , then the three weeks , three weeks Two

1:16:37

months .

1:16:37

Yes , Right .

1:16:40

And here we go . No , that can't be , that

1:16:42

can't be . Oh , okay , all

1:16:45

right .

1:16:55

What coach ? So we get move . I want to fast to move . We've got players all in white

1:16:57

. It's all very orchestrated , very sharp players move when they're told

1:16:59

coaches are standing and watching . We've

1:17:01

got one coach standing in faith . Wait is that ? Wait

1:17:04

is that rupert ? Rupert comes in and

1:17:06

whispers to whoever is supervising

1:17:09

all of this , and this

1:17:11

person , it's Nate . Nate

1:17:15

, the not very great , is

1:17:17

now coaching West

1:17:20

Ham and we end the season

1:17:22

on a close-up of

1:17:25

Nate's barely

1:17:27

smirking face . He is fully

1:17:30

turned on the good guys

1:17:32

and he is totally on

1:17:34

the side of the dark forces

1:17:38

. Dark lord .

1:17:39

Yeah , that

1:17:44

is it . There's no more leaps forward

1:17:47

in time , no more . Eight

1:17:49

years later , that

1:17:52

is the end of season two of Ted Lasso

1:17:54

.

1:17:55

It was it was interesting in

1:17:58

how you can get things in it , because we

1:18:00

were so happy for Nate or I

1:18:02

guess we were supposed to be at the end at this point

1:18:04

season one . He's

1:18:06

just become an assistant coach . I

1:18:09

mean , players are actually like lifting him up

1:18:11

. There's a whole elaborate , you

1:18:13

know prank to bring

1:18:15

back our April Fool's theme . There's

1:18:17

this whole elaborate prank to get him and tell

1:18:20

him about his promotion . And

1:18:22

how far is that from

1:18:25

where we land now that

1:18:28

he has completely betrayed everything

1:18:31

Richmond stands for and is , uh

1:18:34

, working for Rupert ?

1:18:38

Yeah .

1:18:39

That's how . That's how coach is going to do it with

1:18:42

the , with the black star , la black star , you're going

1:18:44

to betray everything . Oh yeah , you wait and see .

1:18:46

You wait and see .

1:18:47

What else is why ? Why

1:18:49

even have a team if you're not going to betray it ? That's

1:18:53

the best part about sports , just loving

1:18:56

the shit out of something for

1:18:59

you know like 5 , 6 decades

1:19:01

, and then being like nah , fuck it , I'm just going to get a due

1:19:03

team , I'm just going to roll . I

1:19:06

don't know , are the Yankees good ? Maybe

1:19:08

I'll be a fan of that . Are the Yankees good ?

1:19:09

Maybe I'll be a fan of that . Are the Yankees good ? That's funny . That's

1:19:13

funny I am , so I'm

1:19:15

so true to like

1:19:17

my own rules around teams

1:19:19

. So I officially put the Knicks

1:19:21

down because I root for Nick

1:19:23

, since I was like a little kid Like when basketball

1:19:26

players were wearing the short shorts I'm talking about

1:19:28

Trent Tucker , roy Sparrow , google it , kids . Basketball players were wearing the short

1:19:30

shorts . I'm talking about Trent Tucker , rory Sparrow , google it , kids . And

1:19:32

I , finally , with their new ownership

1:19:35

, or with the ownership with James Dolan , was like

1:19:37

I can't , I can't be a part of this anymore . So

1:19:39

I put them down and they are presently on

1:19:41

an amazing run and I am so happy

1:19:44

for every single Knicks fan

1:19:46

that has suffered and

1:19:48

gone through this , but I have made

1:19:51

it clear Like I cannot hop back

1:19:53

on now . He's still the owner . I

1:19:56

said I'm out , I'm happy for y'all

1:19:58

, but I'm not a Knicks fan right now . I

1:20:00

just can't , I can't do it . I cannot do

1:20:02

it .

1:20:02

So yeah we all have our rules . We

1:20:04

all have our rules . No , I like it . Yeah , no , it's

1:20:07

got to feel right . Especially

1:20:10

, it doesn't feel right to root for a team , of

1:20:13

all things . It's so . It's

1:20:16

such a construct to root

1:20:18

for sports

1:20:20

or whatever , to

1:20:23

jump on a bandwagon if your

1:20:26

heart's not in it .

1:20:27

Now I'm going to jump around and go oh yeah , no , but

1:20:32

I'm happy for them that I'm glad

1:20:34

for them I

1:20:37

like sports , I like sport , sport

1:20:39

, I like sport .

1:20:40

Yep , how do ?

1:20:40

you do about math ?

1:20:41

I can't get enough . Yeah , there you go . Uh , not

1:20:44

as much into math . Actually I have

1:20:46

a . I have a much larger appreciation for

1:20:48

maths since I had a child

1:20:50

who likes the

1:20:52

maths . He was a math prodigy and

1:20:55

has explained it to me in a way that I

1:20:58

finally understand maths

1:21:00

for the first time in my

1:21:02

50s . It's crazy , they

1:21:04

don't do a good job teaching maths . My

1:21:06

son always laughs about . He

1:21:09

did this great video where he's like I

1:21:12

know everybody hates math , but can you just not

1:21:14

hate math ? Please don't hate math . He's

1:21:16

like math is great , math is the language

1:21:19

of the universe . When they put you in school

1:21:21

and they cram you into a corner with

1:21:23

math and they go oh , you're going to like math , you're going to

1:21:25

learn math , math is important . He's like

1:21:28

that's not math , math , that's society

1:21:30

. You want to be mad at society ? That's

1:21:32

fine , don't be mad at math .

1:21:33

Math is beautiful . That's great . I love . I

1:21:35

love every . I love every

1:21:37

bit of that . I

1:21:39

love every .

1:21:40

I don't know if I ever shared that video with you .

1:21:42

Coach it is no , I don't know that

1:21:44

it was just like he got frustrated one day and made

1:21:46

this little video .

1:21:47

Uh , that's really , really great um

1:21:49

, yeah , no , I , I

1:21:52

love it . I love sports . I love Ted

1:21:54

Lasso , always will love Ted Lasso . This

1:21:56

is it for our coverage

1:22:00

of Ted Lasso . This

1:22:02

is our last official Ted Lasso

1:22:04

. I never was

1:22:07

certain that we would get here to this moment , was certain that

1:22:09

we would get here to this moment . Coach and boss , I want to thank you

1:22:11

for all

1:22:14

of the hours

1:22:17

. I mean . Luckily we got Rich off this podcast . Thank

1:22:20

God , I was so tired of being nice to people

1:22:22

Made a lot .

1:22:25

I'll never wait for anyone again

1:22:27

. Here we go .

1:22:29

Can you imagine ? I mean , that's the point

1:22:32

. No , for those

1:22:34

. All we do is lose money , but

1:22:37

we love it . We love it . It's worth it . The people

1:22:39

we've met make it all worth it . Someday

1:22:42

, maybe we'll break even with this podcast . We

1:22:45

are not vanishing . We will finish up

1:22:47

Wayne . We have a couple episodes

1:22:49

of Wayne the best probably two episodes

1:22:51

. Oh man , I cannot wait for Boss

1:22:53

and Coach to see these two episodes . It's

1:22:55

not what you think . And

1:22:58

yeah , I

1:23:01

want to thank everyone . So many of you have

1:23:03

been with us from the very beginning , suffering

1:23:06

through Boss's laugh , which

1:23:08

is you know Horrific . Yeah

1:23:11

, horrific , yeah . And

1:23:14

you know putting

1:23:17

up with , you know Coach is . Let's face it , he's

1:23:20

a hard man to like . You

1:23:22

don't naturally gravitate toward him . He's

1:23:25

not just a lot of fun smart

1:23:27

, funny , engaging . I've

1:23:32

been so honored to spend this time with

1:23:34

Emily and with Orlando . It

1:23:36

is one of the

1:23:38

greatest sort of vocational

1:23:41

things I've ever been part of . It really

1:23:43

means the world to respect the

1:23:45

people you work with , and that

1:23:47

extends to the family that we've built here

1:23:50

on the podcast , our buttercups

1:23:53

. Everyone that listens . There

1:23:55

are so many of you that are just out

1:23:57

there listening every single episode

1:23:59

, no matter what we're talking about

1:24:01

. Sometimes we have very special episodes

1:24:03

. Sometimes it's Ted Lasso , sometimes it's Wayne

1:24:05

. We have other shows coming up , but

1:24:08

no matter what , we have a diehard audience

1:24:10

all over the world , which is crazy . We

1:24:14

thought if we had like 200 total

1:24:17

downloads in

1:24:19

the beginning , we would have been thrilled . We're

1:24:23

counting ours in the hundreds of thousands now

1:24:25

, so it

1:24:27

just defies logic

1:24:29

. But we're glad that we struck a nerve . We're

1:24:32

so happy and honored that you've taken

1:24:35

any time of your day to have

1:24:37

us in it and if we've done

1:24:39

anything to improve your life

1:24:41

with a laugh here and there or maybe

1:24:44

an insight into something you hadn't thought of with

1:24:46

one of the shows we cover . That's

1:24:48

incredibly gratifying for us . Thank

1:24:52

you , we really mean it from the bottom of our

1:24:54

hearts . We are not going away . We will

1:24:56

be back . We have so much more coming down the pike

1:24:58

, but I

1:25:00

want to say a heartfelt thank you to

1:25:04

the people who have stuck with us . It means everything to us

1:25:06

. Okay

1:25:09

.

1:25:15

Go ahead , coach . No , no , us okay . Uh , go ahead , coach . No , no , I didn't know if you , I didn't

1:25:17

. I didn't know if you were passing it or if that was . So I I just , um , quickly want

1:25:19

to say , for those of you who may be going through this , uh

1:25:22

, you know , long after

1:25:24

we've recorded , or after we've recorded

1:25:26

or playing catch up , um , obviously

1:25:28

maybe a tad confused

1:25:31

and not have picked up on the fact that we are

1:25:33

finishing season two , there

1:25:35

is a season three , but it's the end

1:25:37

of our recording of this . Um

1:25:39

, but I did want to call out coach

1:25:41

, uh , because we give him really

1:25:44

at least

1:25:46

his share of shit and I

1:25:49

would . I don't know that I ever would have . Well , maybe

1:25:51

eventually when it became like a big sensation , but

1:25:53

I certainly wouldn't have known about Ted Lasso

1:25:56

when I did , if coach doesn't

1:25:58

immediately , knowing me

1:26:00

and knowing what I believe in and knowing

1:26:02

what I'm about , doesn't call me and say you

1:26:05

have to watch this and you have to watch this now

1:26:07

. And the timing was amazing

1:26:10

, I so needed it . I've talked about that

1:26:12

in the season one recordings and

1:26:15

, yeah , this has been a blast

1:26:18

. I actually discovered some things about myself in this

1:26:20

process and I'm really enjoying

1:26:22

doing this . So thanks , coach , thank

1:26:25

you , coach .

1:26:25

We learned a lot about Boss too . None of it was fun . No , I'm

1:26:27

just here , to watch people .

1:26:29

The Blood Guy thing was pretty fun .

1:26:31

I gotta say that was pretty fun okay

1:26:33

, well , there was a yeah , the blood guy wasn't bad everything

1:26:36

else was terrible . Um , boss , thank

1:26:38

you so much . Thank you for for always being

1:26:40

the voice of reason . Um , I

1:26:42

I can't say enough about , about everyone

1:26:45

involved with this podcast . Uh , our editor

1:26:47

, luke , who has slaved away

1:26:49

waiting on pay paychecks

1:26:52

. For me , he's a hero and still

1:26:54

never , ever , ever sick at

1:26:56

sea . Um , just the best dude in the

1:26:58

world . Um , if you need an editor for anything

1:27:00

, uh , if you have a project , I

1:27:03

mean , hire luke , luke mori

1:27:05

. He is , um , he's

1:27:07

one in a million , one in in many , many

1:27:09

millions . So , thank you , luke . Thank

1:27:12

you to our producers , thank you to everybody who supported

1:27:14

us through this process , thank you to the naysayers

1:27:17

who got coach and I fired up , who told us we were

1:27:19

being stupid and we never finished this

1:27:21

. We have now finished

1:27:23

one , three , three

1:27:25

season show and we're about to finish a one

1:27:27

season show after this . And then we

1:27:29

have we have a couple couple of great things

1:27:32

for you , coach . Where

1:27:34

do people find you if they want to find you ?

1:27:41

Sorry , my mouse was a little All right . Here

1:27:43

I am . If they want to find me , come

1:27:45

check out the community

1:27:47

. I mean that , come check out the community . Out the

1:27:49

community . I mean that , come check out

1:27:51

the community . It

1:27:55

is like an extension of that lasso way spirit just

1:27:57

that you can inject to any day

1:27:59

of your life . Come check

1:28:01

us out . Become a Buttercup . You'll

1:28:04

be glad you did .

1:28:06

Boss what about ?

1:28:06

you the social media is . You can find me

1:28:08

at Blue Sky , which is Emily Chambers , and

1:28:11

at Threads , which is emily . The social medias you can find me at Blue Sky , which is Emily Chambers , and at Threads , which is

1:28:13

EmilyChambers.31 . Forget

1:28:15

the first 30 . 31 is where it's at .

1:28:19

Love it .

1:28:20

Yep , yeah .

1:28:22

That's like oh yeah . I don't know why

1:28:24

they didn't fix it when it was COVID-19 .

1:28:26

COVID-19 through 18 .

1:28:29

Bastards man alive . You're

1:28:32

going to wire this all . 220 ? Yeah , 220

1:28:34

, 221 , whatever it takes . Okay

1:28:38

, thank you everybody , thank you

1:28:40

, thank you , thank you . We truly appreciate

1:28:42

you . You mean the world to us . Please

1:28:44

don't leave us . Stay with us as we

1:28:47

finish up , wayne . Stay with us as we move on to

1:28:49

. We have a couple of very special episodes and

1:28:51

then our next show . We

1:28:53

haven't announced it yet because we

1:28:56

are in heavy deliberations

1:28:58

, but it's

1:29:01

a great . The one that I think we're going to do is an absolutely

1:29:03

amazing show , every bit as great

1:29:05

as Ted Lasso and Wayne , and

1:29:08

we don't want to waste your time with crappy shows

1:29:10

, so we try to pick ones that really matter . Thank

1:29:13

you , thank you , thank you , thank

1:29:15

you for being there for us . You

1:29:18

make it all worthwhile . Please

1:29:21

support your local libraries and the written

1:29:23

word , and until next time

1:29:25

we are .

1:29:28

Richmond .

1:29:29

Till . We die Till

1:29:34

we're done , oh oh . Till we're done oh till we're done

1:29:36

. Yeah , yeah , hey , we earned that one . I thought you'd

1:29:38

say Richmond till we finish , and then I thought

1:29:40

boss was going to make a phrase .

1:29:43

So we're just not doing phrasing , okay

1:29:46

.

1:29:46

It's not , it's not a thing , thank

1:29:48

you . Thank you , everybody . We will be back

1:29:50

next time and

1:29:52

, yeah

1:29:56

, it's going to be a lot of fun , thank you , thank you . Thank you

1:29:58

, we'll see you next time .