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Here's. To this episode, if somehow you

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are able to be airlifted directly

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or teleported directly from Nineteen Ninety

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Four to Two Thousand And Twenty

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Four, you'd notice an awful lot

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of changes. Primary among them would

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be the internet. But the biggest

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change he probably meant notice about

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our public conversation is how white

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people were so openly attacked and

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denigrated. Yes, a racial groups are

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Ninety Ninety Four, You are about

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thirty years past Civil Rights movement.

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And and Ninety Ninety Four, the.

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Operating assumption of virtually everyone in United States

1:00

was the main last in of the Civil

1:02

Rights movement. Of the letter

1:04

from the Birmingham Jail, the Edmund Pettus

1:06

Bridge in all the different sacred moments

1:08

that we grew up hearing about, the

1:10

main lesson of those moments was it

1:12

is immoral in fact, unacceptable to attack

1:14

people on the basis of their race.

1:17

So. That if you fast forty thirty years

1:19

to find the same country, engage in the

1:21

public hate frenzy against people because of their

1:24

race, you would find that bewildering. How Did

1:26

This happen? Of. Course

1:28

there would be the discrimination,

1:30

the institutional racism of hurting

1:33

people on the basis of

1:35

their race in hiring in

1:37

admissions to schools. In. Federal

1:39

Contracting in promotions or be all

1:41

of that but there are also

1:43

be the public manifestation. Of it

1:45

of sang out why we just don't like

1:48

you. You're not is good. You are morally

1:50

defective because of your skin color uses what

1:52

wipe your people founded the United States. You'd.

1:55

Be shocked by that and then to turn the Tv

1:57

and see the President the United States to the very

1:59

same thing. You'd.

2:01

Think maybe you'd been drinking. I was guy.

2:03

you'd see Joe Biden say things like this.

2:06

Fisher thrust one more urgent

2:08

task on us. Will

2:11

we be the generation? And

2:14

find me Wait South a stain of

2:16

racism from our national character. We've.

2:19

All seen, Leave and Justice in the

2:21

neck and Black Americans. Racism,

2:24

Nativism sphere

2:26

demonization, Have

2:29

long torn of support but a

2:31

black parents no matter how wealthy

2:33

or how for they are has

2:36

to teach their child when you're

2:38

walking down streets. Don't have a

2:40

hoodie on when you go across.

2:42

the street's domestic terrorism from white

2:44

supremacists is the most lethal terrorists,

2:46

threats and the homeless. If our

2:48

your daughter what advice would you

2:50

give me. The next time I'm

2:52

stuck by the police. If.

2:54

You're my daughter. You'd be a caucasian

2:57

girls. He would be pulled over. White

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Supremacy is most lethal threat to the

3:02

United States. White people are the threat,

3:04

They are evil and they are dangerous.

3:06

A such as to seen are presently

3:09

one statement that is the people in

3:11

charge of the country Reinforcing that statement

3:13

on that theme. Every. Single day

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of the or not Whether worse, but with their

3:17

deeds. What Is this? What?

3:20

Is no one mentioned that's happening? Why

3:22

does anyone who does mention it's happening

3:24

get attacked as a White supremacist for

3:26

complaining about racism? And maybe more important,

3:28

what Does it go? Is there any

3:30

other ending to the story? But.

3:32

Hurting people physically. Lots of people.

3:35

Could. We have a resolution that doesn't

3:37

like Rwanda. Jeremy.

3:39

Carl is an author's thought. A lot about this

3:42

is got a brand new book called the Unprotected

3:44

Class. How anti white racism is tearing America apart.

3:46

He joins us now. Can. We think

3:48

so much for coming on. So.

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Ever tried maybe a and advantage

3:53

or maybe disadvantage of being little

3:55

bit older that it's. This.

3:57

Is the one thing you'd never thought? Or I never

3:59

thought? You'd see in America. Which. Is

4:01

our leaders openly attacking people on the basis

4:04

of the race? Just sixty years after the

4:06

Civil Rights movement? That supposedly towards the opposite

4:08

lesson. In. The Sub Rights Act. So.

4:10

How did this happen? Do you think. Well.

4:12

It's of interesting question, right? I think

4:15

humans just sit on a key point

4:17

which is sixty years. We're as far

4:19

now from the Civil Rights Act as

4:21

they were basically from the Wright Brothers.

4:23

so there's been a lot of time

4:25

or that's kind of that, all Water

4:27

under the Bridge since that time, and

4:29

lot of things that happen. And I

4:31

think it was begun with very sincere

4:33

intentions. but I think rather quickly. Certainly

4:35

you know, Ten, twenty thirty years down,

4:37

the line got really hijacked. To

4:39

the point that we went from

4:41

trying to treat people equally to

4:44

what as eventually amounted to reverse

4:46

racism. right?

4:48

Or just I guess I would just

4:50

call it racism because it seems like

4:52

the standard. Would. Remain the same

4:54

no matter the race of the person. Biggest remake

4:56

and you can't attack people. He can't punish people

4:59

for the color of their skin, for how they

5:01

were born. So. That seems like

5:03

a pretty easy principal to uphold is

5:05

pretty straightforward. At

5:07

By. I would agree with you talker,

5:09

but it's a good are nonetheless where

5:12

we're really seeing the route of this

5:14

is what I really wrote the book

5:16

about throughout many different areas of endeavor

5:18

and whether that be when we're looking

5:20

at how our crime gets talked about,

5:22

to what's going on in Hollywood, to

5:25

the educational system and monuments coming down

5:27

and and everything you could imagine. kind

5:29

of though the white person is kind

5:31

of the great enemy, it's the it's

5:33

the of the the kind of I

5:36

the be evil guy in Nineteen Eighty

5:38

Four, the kind of few minutes of

5:40

hates we have to have against him

5:42

Emmanuel Goldstein figure are kind of. His

5:44

is though the white person and particularly

5:46

the Democratic party's discourse that. What's

5:49

interesting though, is it typically when

5:51

you see these moments of scapegoating

5:53

which clearly. You. Know kind of inherent

5:56

to people. I mean they pop up in

5:58

every society in every time To his. The like

6:00

or something and people that wants to separate a group and

6:02

like blame all its problems in their group. But.

6:04

It's usually him and it's the minority. Of course,

6:07

you know, the persecuted minority. Whites.

6:09

Are still for least as of today. Probably

6:11

change soon of course, but they're so the

6:13

majority in the country. So. I can we

6:15

ever seen anything like that happens. You know

6:18

I haven't Tucker, it's It's kind of

6:20

amazing to watch. Because this is whites

6:22

are still a fifty percent majority of

6:24

no longer a majority of the under

6:26

eighteen by of adults. It's still a

6:28

solid majorities. It's a super majority of

6:30

our voters still in every presidential election

6:33

other just barely in the last presidential

6:35

election. And yet they become this figure

6:37

of hate. and it's really been kind

6:39

of fascinating and disturbing to watch and

6:41

to kind of think about why that

6:43

happened in one of the things I

6:45

suggested my book Is that really, ultimately.

6:47

It's this is a legitimising ideology

6:49

for ultimately, resource transfer and resource

6:51

confiscation and that takes the form

6:53

of some of this reparations conversation

6:56

or lands back or some of

6:58

these other things And they sort

7:00

of start out on the extreme,

7:02

laughed and everyday goes over will

7:04

that silly that's never going to

7:06

happen and and all the sudden.

7:09

You know it is happening in your race as if

7:11

you think it's about idea. Yeah.

7:13

I mean and of course is happen and is

7:16

still happening other countries you know. Rudy's.

7:18

It became Zimbabwe and the whites were killed

7:20

and their land was taken in, their money

7:22

stolen. And it's happening South Africa

7:24

right now. Of course when I was to look

7:26

at it, but it is happening actually. I.

7:30

Wonder why people are? why the majority's putting up

7:32

with it? Was. A

7:34

good question Tucker and I I can't even

7:36

fully. I don't have a perfect answer for

7:38

that myself. and ultimately I'm one of the

7:40

main reasons I wrote this book is because

7:42

I don't think to drown think anybody should

7:44

be putting up with it regardless of race

7:46

and we we shouldn't. Our agree I we

7:48

should be putting up with racial discrimination in

7:50

our society in Twenty Twenty Four. But I

7:52

think. You know, kind of

7:54

white people. They're almost. It's like a stockholm

7:56

syndrome. Us where they're they're like it or

7:58

hostage mode. In terms of. Some of

8:00

the way that they're thinking where they

8:02

they sort of are in love with

8:04

their captors. And they're they're not able

8:06

to kind of except what's going on

8:08

and and particularly on the last. It's

8:11

the sort of notion that because we

8:13

of course like every nation of had

8:15

an imperfect pass that why people have

8:17

some hereditary blood guilt. And. I

8:19

think the balance of American history just

8:21

shows that that's a really my opec

8:23

and are childless way to look at

8:25

at our history and our country. Was.

8:28

Demonstrably absurd If America

8:30

so. Racist.

8:32

If systemic racism is such a barriers and

8:34

wire non white people moving here. But

8:37

millions so us silly. But.

8:40

It's a little weird to say that in a

8:42

you hate whites but you need to live in

8:44

a country founded by way to systems. Are.

8:46

Angle systems like. That. Made

8:49

him into logical Humor doesn't make any sense. Know

8:51

it as an Emmy a sort of

8:54

a point to some of the absurdity

8:56

here and you also touched that of

8:58

course people from all sorts of different

9:00

backgrounds are clamoring at the door, were

9:02

right now dealing with us, of course

9:05

with legal immigration. and even if you

9:07

look at some of these groups and

9:09

again so bad discussing the books, they're

9:11

all sorts of non white ethnicities in

9:14

this country, among immigrants and among citizens

9:16

in which particularly among Asian American groups

9:18

but not exclusively. I mean if you

9:20

were to even look at at Nigerian,

9:22

Americans are particularly ego Americans, for example,

9:25

they would have an average i'm higher

9:27

income than the average white Americans and

9:29

so this kind of notion that whites

9:31

are sort of on the top is

9:34

really a selective editing. Have any story

9:36

no matter how true that belies that

9:38

are any statistics. That boy, that's one

9:40

reason the actually seats Asian Americans frequently

9:42

eliminated from his comparison. Sad when with

9:45

their talked about because he doesn't tell

9:47

the story that the left wants to

9:49

tell. Well. It's just a lie. I'm

9:51

in labor department. Plex. The stats

9:53

and you could say well, maybe they're fake stats, tell

9:56

me how they're fake. But. They've been

9:58

and his friends when I a long time. I

10:00

don't. I don't know if native born white from

10:02

the top ten for income actually groups, but they're

10:04

They're not near the top the top ten that's

10:06

for sure. I've seen the numbers are just on

10:08

and so did see. You're lying if you say

10:10

that. So. There's

10:12

that. But again, I want to get back to

10:14

the core question which is why would anybody put

10:16

up with this This were happening to people from

10:18

Madagascar I would be as against as I am

10:20

now. But. Is particularly weird that the people

10:22

whose ancestors founded the country are putting up with

10:24

it. I hear all the time young people see

10:26

why I can't really get a job. I've no

10:29

expectation work in a big companies. I'm a white

10:31

male. It's. Like. Why

10:33

would you accept that? Like if you're twenty two, what'd

10:35

you do to deserve that? And what does it say

10:38

about your country that it's doing it to you once

10:40

you put up with that for a second? I.

10:42

Agree Tucker I mean, and I wrote

10:44

this book because I didn't understand that

10:47

either and what I the only thing

10:49

I can come up with are not

10:51

the only thing but the leading kind

10:53

of hypothesize an avid that's a lot

10:55

of people have tried to been so

10:57

brainwashed by lot of the propaganda from

10:59

the left that they're just simply not

11:01

aware of some of the realities here.

11:03

And so what I've tried to do

11:05

in the book is just to detail

11:07

the enormous number of ways throughout many,

11:10

many different areas of endeavor right now

11:12

where whites. Are being discriminated against And

11:14

to say hey guys, we shouldn't be putting

11:16

up with this. Why are we putting up

11:18

with us? We certainly wouldn't put up with

11:21

it if any other group were being discriminated

11:23

against in this way. So why do we

11:25

not have the self respect to kind of

11:27

stand up for ourselves? Like. I

11:29

couldn't agree more into says it. We wouldn't be putting up

11:31

that if any other groups beings for me as a senator

11:33

group a dumpy putting up with it and you see that

11:36

and their group says won't put up with it. And.

11:38

I say the with admiration because why would

11:40

anyone. Put. Up with Racism.

11:42

Especially since anti racism being

11:44

against racism is our state

11:46

religion. It's

11:52

happening daily. Were being conned by

11:54

the institutions we used to trust.

11:56

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11:58

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So, I mean, how paradoxical

12:58

that in a country where the one thing you

13:00

can't be is racist, that

13:02

anti-white racism is enshrined

13:05

in law, custom, and culture,

13:08

and no one mentions it? I

13:10

agree. It's mysterious, and I think one of

13:12

the encouraging things is when I started to

13:15

write this book a couple years ago, and

13:17

when I started even more thinking about writing

13:19

this book a few years before that,

13:21

a lot of this stuff felt very

13:24

taboo to even mention. Even though

13:26

it's obviously, as you just noted,

13:28

it's obviously self-evidently true, and

13:31

therefore it shouldn't be taboo at all. And I think

13:33

one of the encouraging things is that we're beginning to

13:35

see people, and you've really been

13:37

a stalwart on this, but there

13:39

have been other folks in the media environment,

13:41

folks like Matt Walsh and Charlie Kirk, and

13:43

there have been politicians, guys like J.D. Vance,

13:46

who are kind of now speaking up, and they

13:49

aren't just saying, like, hey,

13:51

it's fine, you know, you can just go discriminate against

13:53

white people, and that's fine, we're not going to say

13:56

anything, or we're going to be too cadd, we're going

13:58

to be too intimidated. I've really seen. an

14:00

improvement in the dialogue just

14:03

in the time even I've been writing this

14:05

book, but at the same time, there's still

14:07

a long way to go before

14:09

we really kind of reach a point where we can

14:11

have a candid conversation about this

14:13

stuff that is actually based on reality

14:16

rather than a left wing fantasy. I

14:19

guess what bothers me

14:21

a little bit is that the

14:23

justification for hurting whites has

14:25

always been effectively a species of

14:27

the reparations argument. Whites

14:30

have hurt other people, therefore it's their turn in

14:32

the barrel or something like that. You

14:34

need to make up for something that your ancestors did,

14:37

I guess. But that, I guess, kind of

14:39

works sort of. Maybe if you're

14:41

talking about the majority, but the second, whites

14:44

are no longer in the majority and that's

14:46

going to happen very, very soon. Maybe

14:48

already has happened. We don't know because we don't

14:50

know the real population numbers because

14:53

of illegal immigration, but we're right on the edge

14:55

of whites not being the majority. At

14:58

that point, do whites get to say,

15:00

well, now I want some advantage in

15:02

college admissions. Now I want my kids to go

15:04

to Harvard for free and I

15:06

want government contracts in a preferential way.

15:10

What happens then or does the anti-white

15:13

hate just get louder? Well,

15:15

that's the concern. I think one of the things, again,

15:17

I talk about in the book is

15:19

we are essentially moving, as

15:21

you just alluded to, to what is effectively

15:24

a post-white America. Now how quickly

15:26

we get that depends on whether Joe Biden

15:28

ever decides that he's going to shut the

15:30

border and whether the Republicans are ever actually

15:32

going to do anything if he

15:34

continues to refuse to. But

15:36

we're headed in that direction. And

15:39

so then the question becomes, when you

15:41

look at the history of

15:44

multi-ethnic countries where you have unequal

15:46

resource distribution and whatever else, that

15:49

is a recipe historically,

15:52

not in every case, but in many, many cases

15:54

for violence. And so that should be

15:56

of great concern to us. And again,

15:59

I'm not sort of a fan of that. But if I didn't write this

16:01

book with the notion that, hey,

16:03

we just are writing this for white people and white

16:05

people should be the only one caring about it, every

16:08

American who is interested in living

16:11

in what is going to be a multi-ethnic country that

16:14

gives hopefully equal rights to everybody should

16:17

be concerned about this issue. Because if we

16:19

don't treat a very large

16:21

group fairly, then there

16:23

are gonna be some people who are just saying, I'm not gonna

16:25

put up with that. And who knows

16:27

where that leads, but not anywhere good. Well,

16:30

and you already see it at the margins. You

16:33

don't want people to be radicalized. You

16:35

don't want people to have to be

16:37

radicalized along racial lines because they're irresolvable.

16:40

Opinions change, skin color doesn't. So if

16:42

we have any kind of

16:44

race conflict, it can go on for many

16:46

generations and has, of course. But

16:48

I think about South Africa, which in 1994, when

16:51

it was handed voluntarily to the

16:53

ANC, had nuclear weapons. And

16:56

now parts of the country don't have consistent

16:59

electricity. The ANC's totally destroyed the

17:01

country. It's a black party.

17:03

And yet they're still blaming whites, the small

17:05

minority of South Africans who are whites for

17:07

all the problems. And so

17:10

you're thinking, well, if that's the future here, that's

17:14

very grim, I think. Oh,

17:18

absolutely. And I'm not

17:20

so dire. I don't think fortunately things are

17:23

so dire here that we're likely to

17:25

wind up in a South African situation. I hope not.

17:27

They can't even keep

17:29

the power on. But I do

17:31

worry that we may be Brazilianizing

17:33

our society, where you essentially have

17:36

a few people kind of at the very

17:38

top, living with guards, kind

17:40

of under a lot of security and things are

17:42

maybe kind of good for them. And

17:44

everybody else is sort of in

17:47

a much worse sort of situation.

17:50

And you kind of have certain

17:52

types of very polarizing racial politics

17:55

beginning even to emerge in

17:57

Brazil as well. So I think... I'm

18:02

not worried that we're going to turn into

18:04

South Africa tomorrow because of that, but given

18:06

America and given our history and traditions and

18:09

the great beacon of freedom and opportunity that

18:11

we've been for everybody, to even

18:14

take a step in that direction is

18:16

just something that we should

18:18

do everything that we can to hopefully

18:21

avoid. Yeah. I mean,

18:23

I should say about Brazil. Brazil's

18:25

had a pretty pyramid shaped economic system for

18:28

a long time, and I don't think that's

18:30

a good thing. You want a middle class,

18:32

but Brazil has not had, Brazil's a multiracial

18:34

society, like way more than the United States.

18:37

A lot of people from different ethnic groups, okay,

18:40

who intermarry and always have for hundreds of years.

18:43

They haven't had until pretty recently, like the

18:45

last 10 years, hardcore American style

18:47

race politics. These have been economic arguments,

18:49

which I think are fine to have

18:52

because your economic system can be changed with one

18:54

piece of legislation. Your race can never be changed. I

18:59

don't understand the difference

19:01

ideologically between ... just

19:03

ideologically, leaving aside resources and history and all

19:05

that stuff, but the ideas of

19:08

the Barack Obama Democratic

19:10

Party seem identical to the

19:12

ideas of the

19:14

ANC or Malayma in South Africa.

19:17

Is there a difference that you see? Well, I don't think

19:19

there is. Okay, I mean,

19:21

we're not yet at the kind of kill the

19:23

bore chant level of overt racism

19:26

in South Africa that they have, although we're

19:28

kind of heading maybe in that direction. There

19:30

was a book last year on Amazon. It

19:32

was a best seller. It was like, Eliminate

19:34

Whites. What was the

19:36

name of the book written by some Indian guy? What?

19:40

Yeah, it's crazy. I

19:43

think certainly there's a lot of

19:45

concern that we should have about the situation

19:47

that we're in right now. I'm

19:50

not necessarily of the view that it's

19:52

going to be quite as bleak as it currently

19:54

is in South Africa, but what I do see

19:57

is that ... some

20:00

of this rhetoric is just incredibly toxic

20:02

from the Democrats that the

20:05

direction that they would like to go is really

20:08

of a sort of racial caste system

20:10

and that what we What we're

20:12

gonna kind of do as a result of

20:14

that is going to be something that would

20:16

be very very bleak for For

20:20

every American but but certainly for white Americans

20:22

most of all and again We've got to

20:24

start calling them out on this because Intel,

20:26

you know if we were letting them get

20:28

away with these sorts of lies of kind

20:31

of police racially targeting

20:34

African Americans and and Kind

20:37

of you know, the America's history is nothing

20:39

but violence and racism Then it's

20:41

gonna be very very bleak in terms of what

20:43

things are gonna look like in the future of

20:45

this country Do you and

20:47

my last question do since I know you've

20:50

thought about this more deeply than anyone probably

20:53

Do you see this? Accelerating or

20:55

do you foresee I'm saying

20:57

prayers for this a future? We're not

21:00

like talking about race that much because it's not that

21:02

interesting and we're talking about the things that unite us

21:04

in the ways to make the country better like what

21:06

it does seem like this election year may be a

21:10

Potentially turning point or an acceleration. Which

21:12

do you think? Well,

21:14

I think that the left is definitely

21:16

accelerating I mean as it becomes less

21:19

and less true to speak of any

21:21

sort of white systemic racism Though

21:23

the left is just amping up their

21:25

their conversation About

21:28

that, you know their their rhetoric around that

21:30

at the same time I think

21:32

there is more resistance that I just touched on

21:35

and you and others have really been in some

21:37

ways at the Forefront of that which I'm

21:39

very thankful for But I

21:42

kind of feel like the best case that's

21:44

realistic is that to use a kind

21:46

of Cold War analogy We move

21:48

to what's called a mutually assured destruction and

21:51

that keeps us safe So what the left has

21:53

to understand is when they use

21:55

this type of racial rhetoric that is Scapegoating

21:58

whites that is blaming everything on

22:00

whites that is saying white people are

22:03

kind of the cause of all problems

22:06

or that are going on in this country that

22:09

they need to understand that there's going to be

22:11

a very painful and direct political

22:13

blowback to them for doing that and

22:16

that requires us to organize on our

22:19

side to say to actually arrange that type

22:21

of blowback to make them understand their cost

22:23

of that type of racist rhetoric that they're

22:26

using and then if that happens they

22:28

may say well okay you know what maybe

22:31

it's best that we kind of cool this

22:33

off that we don't use this type of

22:35

rhetoric that really what we want to do

22:37

is sort of take race

22:39

out of the public dialogue

22:42

in this way we're not going to scapegoat

22:44

whites anymore because we understand that that creates

22:47

a politically painful scenario for us as well

22:49

but to create that sort of thing which

22:51

I think would ultimately lead to racial peace

22:53

and would allow us to talk about these

22:56

things that as you you know would be

22:58

much more important and things

23:00

that we should all be caring about far

23:02

beyond race we need to be a

23:05

credible credible deterrent to

23:07

them we need to show that we're not going

23:09

to put up with what

23:13

the sort of behavior that they've been engaging in

23:15

that's why I wrote my book The Unprotected Class

23:17

and I sort of suggest in the book that

23:20

you know ways that we can go to get there man

23:23

I couldn't agree more

23:25

I remember watching the Republican still

23:27

the Republican governor of New Hampshire

23:29

Chris Sununu really a kind

23:32

of an awful person but say that the problem with New

23:34

Hampshire was there too many whites in it I remember thinking

23:36

is anyone else hearing this you're attacking people

23:38

who live there whose ancestors have

23:40

been there for 300 years you're attacking because

23:42

their skin color really it gets reelected

23:44

by Republicans and so I hope your

23:47

book increases the sanctions on people who

23:50

use racist ideas for political gain

23:52

because I think it's wrong well

23:54

I agree and I appreciate having the opportunity to go

23:56

on and talk about it with you and appreciate all

23:58

the work that you've done to really really highlight

24:00

this issue over the years. Yeah,

24:02

I mean, I'm fine by the way, you know what

24:05

I mean? It's the

24:07

principle that drives me crazy. No,

24:10

I'm great. I'm glad, Tucker, that

24:12

you mentioned that because there's one of the rhetoric,

24:14

one of the things that they use to kind

24:16

of try to shut us up is to say,

24:18

oh, you know, it's just whining. It's your being,

24:20

you must be a loser. You must have a

24:22

terrible life. If you're worrying about that, no, I

24:24

actually have a fantastic life personally.

24:27

I have a loving family. I'm really

24:29

happy, you know, five kids, but I'm

24:31

looking at the future of our country and

24:34

I'm concerned about the, really concerned about the direction

24:36

and I'm concerned about my future for my kids

24:38

and not just for my kids, but for other

24:40

kids of all different races in the US. I

24:43

want them to grow up in a country of

24:45

opportunity and a land of opportunity for everybody, which

24:47

was the country that I really grew up in,

24:50

but I think in many ways is becoming less

24:52

true for everybody now if you

24:54

don't kind of check the right demographic boxes.

24:56

And so that's why I wrote the book

24:58

and that's why I'm speaking out. Amen. Yeah,

25:01

you have your own water fountains. You've

25:03

got the balcony seats in the movie theater. Shut up

25:05

and stop complaining of whiners. It's

25:07

like what? It

25:10

offends me as a Christian, I'll say that. Anyway, thank

25:12

you so much. Jeremy, good to see you. Thank

25:15

you so much, Tucker, for having me on. Thanks

25:18

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