In this episode we bring on past guests of the pod, bartender Mike Shum of the Fairmont Pacific Rim Hotel and Mamie Taylor's Owner, Ron Oliver.

We brought them on to talk about the recent array of food lists to hit the internet, most notably, Canada's Top 100 restaurants and the Vancouver Magazine Awards.

In discussing these lists, we argue about their validity, who was left off and why some of the choices don't make any sense. Mike throws out a few hot takes and Jamie is left puzzled by the whole affair a few times over. Oh and Mickey rants about a certain restaurant he dislikes.

We then wax on the whole David Hawksworth saga and a few other things. This was a fun and spicy chat. Enjoy!