In this episode we tackle the issue of Veganism and the construct of Carnism. Based on the Green Pill episode of The Ezra Klein Show (and also the book by author and activist Melanie Joy: Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs, and Wear Cows: An Introduction to Carnism) we dive into the choices we make as humans and how they trickle down into other issues facing the world. Is Jamie thinking about becoming vegan!? Is Mick swearing so much because he's been sober for a month!!??