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today, Mr. Kevin Van Valkenburg.

2:01

Katie Z, how are we? T.C., it's great

2:03

to see you. You know I'm a

2:05

big Christmas guy. I've been dying to do

2:07

a Christmas episode of Perfect Club, and you

2:09

were really just up for

2:12

humoring me on this. I think we

2:14

have a pretty good fun topic here.

2:17

I think I would love

2:19

to introduce our third guest here, making her

2:21

Perfect Club debut. It's Claire

2:23

Rogers, a social media manager for golf.club.

2:25

Claire, how are you? Hi, guys.

2:27

I'm good. Thanks for having me.

2:29

I'm excited for you. I should be in here. Claire,

2:31

we have been itching behind the scenes to get

2:33

you on a Perfect Club. Probably

2:36

I don't think I'm overstepping this. Probably

2:38

the funniest person on golf Twitter. I

2:41

know it's not the strongest

2:44

distinction, golf Twitter being such a

2:46

place of weirdos and misfits, but

2:49

certainly, Claire, you rank amongst the top. How is

2:51

your holiday season going, Claire? I

2:54

feel like it hasn't really started yet because I

2:56

haven't been home to my parents' house. I feel

2:58

like that's when it'll start for me. I

3:01

have a big family. Once we're all home,

3:03

which will be, I'm going to the PNC next week or

3:05

this upcoming week, I guess. Then from

3:07

there, I'm going to Rhode Island, which I think that's

3:09

what it's really going to start. Okay.

3:13

Claire, for the record, how many cousins do you

3:15

have? I follow

3:17

you on Instagram. I've seen hundreds

3:19

of people in this family. I saw you tweeting about

3:22

it the other day. Somebody was like, oh, 30 cousins.

3:25

That's cute. How many do you have? My mom's

3:27

one of 10 and my dad's one of seven. There

3:31

are 28 grandkids on my

3:33

mom's side and 19 on

3:35

my dad's side. I

3:38

don't know what that math is, but there is a lot of

3:40

us. Then the older one, a lot of us have got married

3:42

and had kids. I

3:46

have a step sister who's in sixth grade, so it goes

3:48

way down. Then the oldest is almost 40. There's

3:51

a massive spread. This

3:53

is incredible. Have you ever tried to

3:56

take all these people to France for

3:58

a certification? No, but I honestly... think

4:00

that we would have left more than one

4:02

person behind. So, you know, it

4:04

can be, I didn't even think about that as

4:06

the transition. It

4:09

was brilliant. Oh, thanks. Tc. I appreciate it. I'm getting started

4:11

to get the hang of this perfect club thing. If you

4:13

don't know by now, if you haven't seen

4:15

the episode title, we are talking about Home

4:17

Alone, one of the truly great Christmas

4:20

films, I think ever made Home

4:22

Alone was, I came out in 1990, Clara,

4:25

what year were you born? Okay,

4:28

Lisa came out very born. Thank God. It

4:30

was starting to make me especially feel old.

4:33

Home Alone was written by the great John Hughes,

4:35

directed by also sort of

4:38

famed director Christopher Columbus. Just

4:41

looking up here, Home Alone, how much

4:43

would you guess do you see the Home Alone made in

4:45

the theaters? In

4:47

theaters? Oh gosh, this was back when you had to

4:49

go to the theater to watch a movie. That is

4:51

correct. Yeah. I

4:54

would say we're

4:56

not talking inflation adjusted here. We're

4:58

not talking inflation adjusted. I would say

5:01

70 million dollars. Oh 70 million

5:03

dollars a lot more than that. Claire, I gave you a

5:05

tip. Can you guess unless you can see it in the

5:07

agenda or how much is Home Alone based? Was

5:09

it like 140 million or something? 467

5:14

million, a John Romm size contract

5:16

that Home Alone made. That's so

5:18

much money. That's not adjusted for

5:20

inflation. That is not adjusted for

5:22

inflation. It was the highest grossing

5:24

live-action comedy ever made until

5:26

the Hangover 3 beat it, which

5:29

I had no clue that not only that the Hangover

5:31

3 was that popular, but that Home Alone was this.

5:33

And which is interesting. I just looking up the research

5:35

for this. Warner Brothers

5:37

was the original financier of Home

5:40

Alone and they ducked out after

5:42

it was growing too expensive that

5:44

basically Chris Columbus was just blowing

5:46

through the budget. And

5:48

then so 20th Century Fox had to step in

5:50

and certainly reaped the benefits of that. I'm sure

5:53

going back in time, maybe like J. Monahan,

5:55

they'd like to have a do-over and

5:57

call in the early financier. Guys,

6:00

this is like King,

6:02

King, the

6:05

king and queen of Spain kind of said the same

6:07

thing to the other Christopher Columbus. We'd like to have

6:09

a deal. This

6:12

thing's out of line here way too

6:14

much budget. Just for reference, for

6:17

sake too, I looked up Home Loan 2 grossed $359 million.

6:22

So kind of amazing that the first one grossed

6:24

more. I think, and this is

6:26

one of those things that could be memory just

6:29

being distorted by time, but I think I saw it

6:31

in the theaters. It

6:33

would make sense that I did. I would

6:35

have been about 12, 13 years old

6:38

at this moment. So I'm not that much

6:40

different in age than my colleague Hulkan,

6:43

which is a little frightening. But

6:45

guys, when do you remember

6:47

seeing Home Loan? PC, let's start

6:49

with you. What Home Loan,

6:51

when did it come into your life? You know what? That's

6:54

a great question because I'm not really sure.

6:56

There's certain movies that are seminal movies. I

6:58

remember when I saw

7:01

The Rock, and my dad took me to see The

7:03

Rock, and I was like, I don't know, maybe 12. It

7:07

was rated R, and I was 12. I was like, I'm

7:09

going to see an R rated movie. But I do not

7:11

remember seeing Home Alone in the theater

7:13

or when the first time I saw it. I remember seeing

7:15

Home Alone 2 in the theater, but I do not remember

7:17

the first time I saw Home Alone. I

7:20

think my indelible memory from Home Alone

7:22

is the aftershave scene where

7:24

I remember running around the house,

7:26

doing that in front of the

7:28

mirror, doing the tarantula scene, all

7:30

that stuff. But as

7:33

far as I think I was like four when it came out,

7:35

so it was probably more of like a VHS kind

7:37

of thing for me. Gotcha. Claire,

7:39

your thoughts? When do you remember Home Alone coming into your

7:41

life? I also don't remember the first time,

7:43

but I watch it every

7:45

Christmas Eve with my family. It's

7:48

got to be when I was super little,

7:50

like four or five, I

7:52

would think. I would say,

7:54

what is the reason you guys think this film has held

7:56

up over the years? Claire, I'm going to kick this to

7:58

you first. What makes you think this film is? your family

8:00

want to sit down and bang it other than of course

8:03

it's similar size and there's so

8:06

many different things like my older brother is

8:08

obsessed with the house I don't know why

8:10

he loves looking up the house but

8:13

yeah I don't know there was how much

8:15

it was sold for last there was

8:17

like an airbnb situation where you could

8:19

rent out he is fixated on this

8:21

house whereas and I was just

8:23

texting my family I was like what what's everyone's

8:25

favorite scene my dad loves like this uh cheap

8:28

skate thing with the he thinks the uncle is

8:30

hilarious like uh when the guy yeah oh my

8:32

brother has

8:34

the bill at his house uh I

8:37

just think there's so many scenes that and

8:39

I didn't realize this guy had like written

8:41

a ton of other movies I guess I didn't realize that

8:44

until I looked up but I think just the

8:46

one-liners that can that carry

8:48

over and it's not just one scene that

8:50

people like you could ask 10 people and

8:52

they made all different favorite scenes so the

8:55

whole thing is just very quotable and funny

8:58

and it's a feel-good movie too even though

9:00

it's all on itself do you

9:02

see any any sort of ad comment why do you

9:04

think it's held up like Claire said

9:06

there's just so many layers to it there's

9:08

some little easter eggs like like the the

9:10

the little Nero's pizza delivery guy like one

9:13

of my favorite just the way that he delivers that

9:15

to little Nero sir I have

9:17

your pizza and he keeps knocking over the

9:19

statue and like the

9:21

the I mean shit I love

9:23

the like that that opening scene

9:25

where Joe Pesci's there kind of

9:28

in front of the the staircase and

9:30

everybody's walking around it just captures the

9:33

the madness of the holidays so well

9:35

and then it kind of

9:37

ebbs and flows and it does all this stuff that

9:39

like it makes you feel like you're a kid again

9:42

even if you you know I'm in my late 30s

9:44

at this point and you know

9:46

all the hijinks and I loved

9:48

home alone too as well I still feel that way

9:50

like like like before I go or after I go

9:52

to New York every single time I come back and

9:55

like I watch home alone too because it's just like

9:57

the the world famous ding-dang dong and all the

9:59

you know There's just so many little

10:01

layers where it takes me back to this

10:04

moment in time. You recreate that scene in

10:06

the Trump Tower there with DT walking by.

10:09

I was just walking by Trump Tower yesterday.

10:11

It's, you know, I didn't make

10:13

that connection until just now. My goodness. I could have

10:16

ducked in there and done it. Guys, what

10:18

do you think like makes John Hughes movies,

10:20

you know, sort of the connective tissue

10:23

between them or why, what made John Hughes such

10:25

a great writer? If anybody doesn't

10:27

sort of aware, like John

10:30

Hughes, seminal sort of director,

10:32

writer of the eighties, classics

10:34

like Pretty in Pink, you

10:36

know, Ferris Bueller's Day Off,

10:39

you know, Uncle Buck, you know,

10:41

16 Candles. I

10:45

guess, you know, this is probably, I wouldn't say, you

10:47

know, this isn't, he didn't direct this one. I would

10:49

sort of pick Ferris Bueller's Day Off as my favorite

10:51

John Hughes movie, but I'm kind of curious,

10:53

you know, what other kind of things

10:55

do you think that are sort of

10:57

related to this movie that can be seen echoed

11:00

in Hughes' other work? Good

11:03

question. I think like

11:05

Hand Up, I've never seen 16 Candles.

11:08

I've never seen The breakfast Club. I

11:10

love playing Strange Automobiles. It's one of my favorite

11:12

movies. And then, you know, like

11:15

even Beethoven, like he wrote Beethoven.

11:17

Beethoven's a great movie. And like there's

11:19

such indelible scenes, like

11:21

when the tray

11:23

full of needles flies

11:25

through the air and lands on the guy's chest.

11:28

Like there's just such a, there's something

11:30

about that. Now I will say, I think

11:32

we have to detract from John Hughes because

11:34

Home Alone 3 was godawful. Just

11:37

atrocious. And I guess he wrote that as

11:40

well. But he did Dennis the Menace,

11:42

Miracle on 34th Street, 101 Dalmatians, you know, all

11:46

sorts of stuff there. So, and

11:48

the National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation and

11:50

European Vacation. Which I

11:52

think the guy had a really good

11:55

grasp of the holidays. Like what makes the

11:57

holidays fun? What makes them not

11:59

fun? And then also

12:01

it just seems like they're really

12:04

well cast too with playing

12:07

strings in automobiles, even with Home

12:09

Alone. Like think of John Candy

12:11

or Marvin Harry. They're

12:14

just perfect kind of

12:17

compliments to the script itself. I

12:19

love John Candy. First of all, one of my all-time favorite

12:22

actors. I was thinking about this, it's my

12:24

own question, but I think it's

12:26

the idea that family is

12:28

sort of a little bit of a nebulous

12:30

thing. You sort of pick people

12:32

up around the holidays, sort of care for each other, that

12:35

your connections with other

12:37

people can sort of be more

12:39

meaningful than just a transitory, like

12:41

work relationships. Or you can meet

12:44

someone and they can come to mean like

12:46

in playing strings in automobiles like a much

12:49

larger purpose, whether it's Kevin and Old Man

12:51

Marley in the church scene

12:53

in this. They can sort of change your

12:55

life for the good. And that's sort of

12:57

an uplifting, feel good thing. And

13:01

that's why I think it sort of resonates for people

13:03

over time. All right, let's get into the meat

13:05

of this. As we all

13:07

probably, if you're listening, I hope you know the

13:09

plot to Home Alone. But

13:11

essentially the McAllisters are headed off

13:13

to France for a Christmas vacation.

13:16

And because of basically

13:18

Kevin's, either Kevin's misbehavior or their

13:21

own selfishness, they leave Kevin

13:23

behind. For some reason, he's forced

13:25

to sleep in the attic of the

13:27

house. There's a full bedroom

13:29

up there, plus all kinds of stuff. I want to

13:31

ask you guys later whether you think the McAllisters are

13:33

hoarders. But Kevin gets

13:35

left behind, they race the airport, and

13:38

while their parents are on the

13:40

plane sitting in first class up where

13:42

TC and the rest of C-suites sleep, they

13:44

realize they have left Kevin

13:46

at home. On American Airlines. On American,

13:48

oh my goodness. I

13:52

think you would have a lot to say about the fact that

13:54

America couldn't get them on a phone

13:56

call from over the Atlantic somewhere to rectify

13:59

the situation. right away. But I'm

14:01

wondering, guys, who is most responsible

14:04

for leaving Kevin behind? I'm

14:07

going to turn this over to you guys. I

14:09

think the parents. It's got to always be the

14:11

parents first, right? And I know it was the

14:14

sister who was head tapping, but you have to,

14:17

it's got to go to the adult. And

14:19

then second would be the aunt and uncle, I think. DC? I'm

14:23

going to disagree. I'm going to say it's

14:26

the pesky little neighbor. Who's

14:28

the neighbor boy? Okay. I tried to

14:30

look up his name, couldn't remember it, couldn't find it.

14:33

Yeah. Or the power company, right?

14:36

At some point, the power goes off. I feel like, I

14:40

think this day and age, the Macalesters probably would have

14:42

a generator there, but

14:44

they didn't have a generator. So power goes

14:47

off, they're in a hurry, all that stuff. But

14:49

if the kid's not rummaging through

14:51

the luggage in the back

14:53

of the van there,

14:55

the airport shuttle, none

14:58

of this happens, right? Just like in Home

15:00

Alone 2. If the

15:03

gate agent at

15:05

the airport doesn't just wave

15:07

them all through, like a typical

15:10

American Airlines employee,

15:13

negligent, then none of

15:16

that happens. It's

15:19

such a cascading

15:21

thing of faults

15:24

that leads back to this. But I

15:26

feel like that kid just totally, that

15:28

was the moment when it should have

15:30

been caught and it wasn't. I

15:33

think that the most likely falls

15:35

with Kate McAllister. She did send

15:37

Kevin up to his room. I

15:39

think that Peter McAllister shares a significant amount of

15:41

lame. He seems to care much less about his

15:44

children than Kate does. I mean, he's

15:46

the one who throws away Kevin's ticket. He's

15:48

the one who's basically like, well, I'll just stay

15:50

in France. You figure this out. I

15:53

think Pete McAllister might be a bad guy, TC.

15:55

I'm not sure. I mean, this might be a

15:57

sick individual that we're dealing with here. So

16:00

a couple of years ago, Spencer Hall,

16:03

I think it was Spencer, it was Spencer or Holly wrote

16:05

this whole thing. It's called

16:07

a unified theory of homeowners, the story of

16:09

white collar crime on their channel

16:12

six thing. That was

16:15

very much like it goes through all the, you

16:18

know, where the family wealth

16:20

comes from, how much the house

16:22

is worth, but you never actually know what

16:24

he does, all this stuff.

16:27

So I was saying that he thinks he's a day trader basically.

16:31

And then he goes on to talk about all

16:33

the, like the two or three people that he

16:35

knows that are day traders are also involved in

16:37

a bunch of other scams, you

16:39

know, like this day and age,

16:41

Kevin McCallister, Peter McCallister, the father

16:43

would probably be wrapped up into

16:45

crypto stuff like that. Right. It

16:48

could be like though, like a tournament director

16:50

TC for like, you know, something about five

16:52

farms, maybe something up there. You know,

16:55

I don't know the live guys, what

16:57

I mean, Peter McCallister has got to have

16:59

his, his toe dipped in golf somehow, I

17:01

would think. Oh, and

17:03

it's kind of weird too. Like they're going to Paris

17:06

for Christmas, right? Who's paying

17:09

for 40 people to go to Paris

17:11

for Christmas, you know, and it's

17:14

just, I don't know, it's strange. The

17:16

whole thing's strange. I was

17:18

thinking some sort of investment banker or

17:21

something like super busy,

17:23

not home a lot, but then during the

17:25

holidays can be like, right, we're all going

17:27

here. Okay. I'm

17:29

possibly using, possibly using speed to

17:31

keep his stay awake during the

17:33

trading and resting as much. Okay.

17:36

Well, after, you know, the parents

17:38

leave, Kevin is set free. Obviously

17:41

he's been oppressed much of his life, you know,

17:43

beat down by the sort of draconian rules of

17:45

his family. Once he's set free

17:48

and wakes up, he runs around the house

17:50

like a maniac, a living

17:52

kind of every eight year old child's dream. Do

17:54

you guys think that Kevin ever participated in any

17:56

like competitive sports? Cause he does not appear to

17:58

know how to run. His hands flail

18:01

about above his head, as though

18:03

he was sort of like, you know, I

18:05

don't know, just completely lost in terms of

18:08

coordination. What do you think Kevin did in

18:10

terms of youth sports? That's

18:13

a great question. That said,

18:16

like, he does well in the sled coming

18:19

down the stairs. He's got some, like,

18:21

he's got some gumption to him, right?

18:24

Yeah, I don't know. That's a great

18:26

question. I could, you know, so we're in

18:28

Chicago. Funny story,

18:30

I was actually, my parents lived like

18:32

mere blocks from this house. I

18:35

was born in Willmett. Your house could have been targeted.

18:38

Exactly. Possibly. Yeah.

18:41

I mean, Spencer Hall said the wet bandits

18:43

knew that Peter McAllister couldn't call the cops

18:45

with ease. He had to, you know, because

18:47

he might have been tied into all sorts

18:50

of funny business. He might have

18:52

been going to Paris because, you know, they have

18:54

a very loose extradition treaty with the United States.

18:57

But anyway, so Chicago,

18:59

you know, Tony Northside

19:01

of Chicago, you got to think,

19:04

all right, possibly some lacrosse, maybe

19:08

hockey, you know, so you don't really run

19:10

in hockey. You know, that could be part

19:12

of it. Need

19:14

something I could stick to weigh him down. Yeah.

19:18

I was thinking youth soccer. Okay. Because

19:20

have you ever been for like four and

19:22

five year olds playing youth soccer? They're so

19:24

bad. And

19:27

they're not, I mean, obviously they're not coordinated yet. So

19:29

that's enough to get you into this sport, but you

19:31

don't have to be good at it. And

19:34

how old is Kevin? Eight.

19:37

He's eight. Yeah. And

19:39

he's at what? The youngest of five. The

19:41

parents don't want to do early morning hockey anymore. They

19:43

don't want to do sitting at a pool for a

19:45

swim meet all day. They're like perfectly in and out

19:48

of there in an hour. And that's all

19:50

he's ever done. You know, that

19:52

makes sense because he does have incredible stamina for

19:54

running later in the summer. He's running from the

19:56

cops. He's running from the wet bandits. Obviously.

19:59

Yeah. You might have known that by the young

20:01

Schriner Riker. Jimmy! South Lister!

20:04

That's right. Guys,

20:07

a key thing here, I've just been bugging me

20:09

ever since I rewatched the film, why do the

20:11

Macalesters have so many mannequins? Like,

20:13

that's the way, the mannequin budget in

20:15

the Macalester House seems enormous. The

20:20

mom must have worked in like retail or something,

20:23

right? But why would she have them

20:25

on her house? That part doesn't make sense. Yeah,

20:28

I feel like she's got to be, like, she

20:30

had to have been in retail at some point

20:32

because she's got the dangly earrings that, which we'll

20:34

get to that lady at the

20:37

airport. And she, like, she might be

20:39

the most soulless, craven

20:41

person in the whole film. But

20:44

yeah, there's all sorts of, you know, there's

20:46

the mannequins, there's the wigs,

20:48

there's the, it's

20:50

crazy how much shit is in that house. I

20:54

think it's possible that the Macalester is just like, just

20:56

Rome estate sales and just like, hoard more shit like,

20:58

all around Chicago. Just, yeah, we'll just fit

21:00

it in our massive basement, like tar, paint

21:02

cans, whatever, like, just stuff it in there.

21:07

Oh, alright guys, what is the, TC, you

21:09

mentioned the aftershave scene. I think that's kind

21:11

of the most, you know, memorable, memeable scene

21:14

from the film. It's really stuck with

21:16

me. I think it might have

21:18

terrified young men of our age out of

21:20

ever using aftershave because I think it seemed

21:22

like such a painful experience. Certainly when I

21:25

saw this film, I was not yet shaving.

21:28

Did the sort of ripple effects of this

21:30

affect aftershave sales for another, you know,

21:32

25 years? I

21:34

think if anything, it kind of did the opposite for

21:36

me. Like, I, my dad didn't

21:39

wear aftershave, but I remember I had an

21:41

uncle who, you know, we were,

21:43

we were on vacation somewhere and he had aftershave

21:45

in the bathroom. And I remember like seeking it

21:47

out, putting it on and then, you know, recreating

21:49

that kind of. And I thought it was going

21:52

to hurt a lot worse than it did, honestly.

21:54

It certainly made it

21:56

seem like it hurt, you know, but I just avoided it

21:58

for many years. I tried after Shave

22:00

until I was in college because of this film. I

22:03

remember being so scared of

22:05

that and like, thank gosh, I'm a girl. I never

22:07

want to have to deal with that pain. Yeah. I

22:11

was definitely scared of it after seeing that. I

22:13

think it must've made it seem like

22:15

it burned like acid, like it was some

22:18

sort of medieval torture thing. Uh, all right

22:20

guys, what are the chances that

22:22

Buzz, uh, as an adult is

22:24

serving time in prison? Like 70, 80%,

22:27

like Buzz seems like a truly, a

22:29

psychopath. Uh,

22:32

I think Buzz, yeah, Buzz probably,

22:37

I can't put my finger on like what

22:39

it is or he's just, he's

22:42

really, really just depraved

22:44

and he has no empathy

22:46

for others. And you know, like that's,

22:48

that's the thing that sticks with me

22:50

the most out of that first kind

22:52

of opening stanza there

22:54

is the, like

22:57

the antipathy with which Kevin is

22:59

treated. Like when, you know, they

23:01

call him a disease. Uh,

23:04

you're what the French call as in competent.

23:07

The whole like fuller

23:09

gets his face stuck

23:12

against the chair there. The milk

23:14

goes everywhere. The Pepsi goes everywhere.

23:16

It's crazy, but, but through all

23:18

that, everybody just blames Kevin. And

23:20

it's so like, I don't

23:22

think it's, I feel like Buzz is almost

23:25

a reflection of the family at large, you

23:27

know, buzzes. So

23:29

buzz may have like may, may get his

23:31

shit together later on because buzz could just

23:33

be Peter's, you know, like

23:35

the, the spitting image of Peter at the same

23:38

age, right? It's possible that

23:40

Peter has like been abusive, all, you know,

23:42

emotionally, physically, like throughout time. And

23:44

then he's just rolling downhill. That it's all, they

23:46

feel it's their duty, Macalester's to treat

23:48

the youngest as though they were treated to that growing up.

23:51

Exactly. Yeah. I think

23:53

he, I hope he turned it around, but he was

23:55

just so mean. And I guess at the end of

23:58

each movie, he had like one. to

24:00

kind of be like, all right, Kevin, I, Oh,

24:03

you're a kid kid. What did he say at the end of this one? You're

24:07

okay kid or something or, you're pretty cool. Yeah, you're

24:09

pretty cool. That's not what it is. Yeah.

24:11

And that definitely means like so much to Kevin,

24:13

which is so sad to get, you know,

24:15

have your brother accept you for four

24:17

seconds, but yeah, I hope he turned

24:19

it around, but I don't know.

24:21

I could see him like getting kicked out

24:23

of high school or something like that. Yeah.

24:26

And it's kind of the same thing at the end of

24:28

Home Alone 2, Kevin gets

24:30

all those presents from Duncan's toy

24:33

shafts at the end and that's the

24:35

only reason that they're all happy with

24:37

them and everything. Otherwise

24:39

it's like, oh, like

24:42

Kevin, like you're not bringing anything to the

24:44

table here, which, you know,

24:46

going to college with a bunch of

24:48

people from Nutriere,

24:51

Loyola, those high schools on

24:54

the Toney North side of Chicago, you

24:57

know, I know some people like Buzz from

25:00

that area. Buzz

25:03

definitely was in a disciplinary hearing set

25:05

at Northwestern or wherever he ended

25:08

up. Yeah. Buzz

25:10

might've been one of the ones doing the

25:12

hazing at Northwestern. Very much so, yeah. I

25:15

mean, Peter would have had to give

25:17

a lot of money to Northwestern, I would think, for

25:19

Buzz to get admitted. He doesn't seem like the most

25:22

studious person, but you know, Peter has, he has a

25:24

lot of money, although not enough to

25:26

spring the whole family from first class to France, it seems.

25:28

So, you know, that was a choice,

25:31

clearly, to send the kids back into coach.

25:34

All right, speaking of Buzz, yeah. Real

25:36

quick, I just always, one thing that

25:38

always stuck with me was Buzz's like

25:41

little box of goodies there,

25:43

whether it's the, you know, the baseball

25:46

cards or the, you know, the firecrackers

25:48

in there. He's got his tarantula, like

25:51

that whole wall of

25:53

just stuff. I'm like, man, like, that's

25:55

what I'm gonna have when I grow up

25:57

to be 13, 14, 15. I'm

26:00

just gonna have this little wall

26:02

of like, just outrageous contraband shit.

26:05

You know? Uh,

26:08

Claire, did any of your brothers have an outrageous contraband

26:10

thing? Um, no,

26:12

they're like pretty well behaved. We didn't really get

26:15

into it. I know. One thing

26:17

was not allowed in the house, peanut butter,

26:19

because two of my siblings are very allergic.

26:21

So that was what you'd get in trouble for if you brought

26:23

into the house. It was pretty boring. I think

26:26

we're paying better, Stash. We'll get it. Okay. Uh,

26:29

speaking of Buzz, uh, is there any way that

26:31

Buzz would really have like an Isaiah Thomas and

26:33

a Michael Jordan poster in his room? Those seem

26:35

to be, uh, you know, kind

26:37

of sharks and jets scenarios or live in PJ Tour scenarios. You

26:39

kind of got to be a fan of one or the other,

26:41

right? I mean, I know Isaiah's from Chicago,

26:43

but it seems, uh, it seems like a little bit

26:45

of a stretch. Yeah. I

26:48

never thought about that. I didn't think

26:50

about it until I saw Isaiah defending himself

26:52

on Twitter for this very thing that someone made

26:54

this claim and Isaiah was like, listen,

26:57

like I, I am a Chicago guy through

26:59

and through. So do

27:02

you think if this movie was made today, that it would be

27:04

like, would they

27:06

set this in Chicago still? You

27:08

know, and you wouldn't really

27:10

have the same kind of cultural,

27:13

you know, the bulls. Uh,

27:15

I can't remember if there's

27:17

a bears reference in there at all. Don't

27:20

think so, but, uh, I don't know.

27:24

Claire, how would this film play if it was set

27:26

in Boston or Rhode Island? Oh,

27:28

Boston would be good. Like South Boston. Yeah.

27:31

Yeah. A bunch of like

27:33

counties kind of the kid wouldn't last

27:35

too long. I don't think so. It would be, he'd be

27:37

in danger going outside at night, I think, but, um,

27:40

I'm trying to think if it were like today, it would just,

27:42

they would have to like do no cell phones and everything. Cause

27:44

everyone be like, why don't they, why doesn't he just pick up

27:46

a cell phone? Why doesn't he? So I don't

27:49

know. Rhode Island, it would probably be, I don't know. It's

27:51

not as like the houses aren't as

27:53

cool as the one that they had in Chicago.

27:55

I think Chicago is really, you need somewhere. It's

27:57

going to look like Christmas at that Christmas time.

28:00

can't be in like Palm Beach or something. Oh,

28:02

I feel like Boston, it's very much a, like

28:05

it probably would have been in like Newton. Yeah,

28:08

Brookline. Brookline, somewhere

28:10

like that. Tom Brady's old house, they'd have had it there.

28:12

That's where they would have lived. Exactly.

28:15

I kinda wanna someday compile like a list

28:17

of all the art that couldn't happen now

28:20

as a result of cell phones, that

28:22

just the plots would be completely

28:25

eliminated and it would seem like Home Alone would rank very

28:27

high on the list. Totally.

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suburban cops in Chicago? Because like they don't

29:58

exactly seem to be like. a model of

30:00

fitness. They're trying to chase

30:03

Kevin for taking a $2 toothbrush and he

30:05

evades him

30:07

like he's Barry Sanders, like a young

30:09

Barry. What's going on here at TCE with

30:11

the cops? I

30:14

would say on the cops front, we

30:16

got to start with Officer Balzac, right?

30:18

He's the one that's eating the doughnut

30:20

there and he's like, hey, wait, so

30:22

let me get this straight. You want

30:24

to send someone over to your

30:27

house to check on him? The

30:30

lady's like, you know, tapping on the window.

30:32

She's like, hey, I got the crazy

30:34

mom online, line one again. And you

30:36

know, they keep going back and forth. So

30:39

that's, that's like more

30:41

concerning than anything. I think it's the

30:44

lack of, uh, the lack of give

30:46

a shit there. You know, they're worried

30:48

about the wrong stuff, right? Well,

30:51

they were too busy looking for the wet bandits. They, they said

30:53

at the end of the film, we've been looking for you guys

30:55

for quite a while. Claire,

30:57

give me, what do you think? How do you think Harry and

30:59

Marv turned to a life of crime? I

31:02

was thinking about this and did you ever see Wicked? It gives

31:05

us the backstory of Elphaba.

31:09

That would be so good to have for these

31:11

two. Because I'm like,

31:13

something went very wrong in childhood

31:15

or something where they, I don't

31:18

know, ended up feeling like they needed to

31:20

do this. And yeah, it

31:22

was also very personal with Kevin, right? You

31:24

see in the second one, they're like, out

31:27

there. They would say like, we hope your

31:29

parents got you a tombstone. They wanted a

31:31

kid dead, which is insane. Just

31:33

take the stuff and leave. That should be how

31:35

it is. But they're after this little kid. But

31:38

yeah, I think we need a backstory movie on

31:40

these guys because that would just, I don't know,

31:42

wicked people are obsessed with it. So that would

31:44

be awesome for this situation with these two. But

31:46

I think something went wrong in childhood. Maybe they

31:48

were like Kevin is

31:51

treated horribly by their family. Beating on by their

31:53

siblings. They're doing like buzz. Or

31:55

buzz. Maybe

31:57

that should have been a good connective tissue to the home lungs. should

32:00

have been like a criminal down the road and then

32:02

trying to rob houses. You know, one

32:04

thing that's starting to be is like the Macalesters

32:06

don't really have anything that looks like super expensive

32:08

in their house. You know, I don't know if

32:10

they buried their gold in the backyard, if they're

32:12

in the crypto or

32:15

some version of crypto or you can't quite get the

32:18

stuff, but all they got is like a

32:20

bunch of shitty vases, you know, and there's nothing really

32:22

for them to steal. It's because the

32:24

Calceters are hoarders. It's true. I,

32:27

you know, the Macalesters feel very

32:30

kind of old money. They've got

32:32

stock certificates, like, you know, class

32:34

A stock and like standard oil,

32:37

stuff like that. I

32:39

think my favorite, I can't remember if

32:41

it's in one or two when he says, Sanne, don't visit

32:43

the funeral home, little buddy. I

32:46

think it's in two. In two? Yeah,

32:48

that's like that one always sticks with

32:50

me. I say that's from Freddy sometimes.

32:53

If he gets out of line or whatever.

32:57

But yeah, also, I just realized that

33:00

that Kieran Culkin is fuller. Yes.

33:03

I had no idea. Oh, really? It's

33:06

just Donnie. Yes. The kind of boom on mine.

33:09

No, the Culkin boys, you know, Groomo

33:11

grew up to be, you know, Roman

33:13

Roy, which always makes me laugh. Sometimes

33:15

you see that on Twitter where someone will make

33:18

that, showed that shot of him drinking the Pepsi

33:20

and be like, and you know, this person

33:22

grew up to run the Roy star,

33:24

Royco. Are

33:28

the web bandits, are they good criminals? I mean, it

33:30

seems like maybe not. Like

33:32

even before we see him get foiled by

33:34

the Macau, like Kevin, like

33:36

I can't really get over Merv just

33:38

like basically like knocking, you know, smashing

33:41

things up in a house. Aren't you, wouldn't you think

33:43

as a criminal, you're supposed to like be quiet, like,

33:45

you know, act surreptitiously in homes?

33:48

Yeah. And then, well, I know it's

33:50

through the web bandits with like shoving

33:53

something in the sink and making it over.

33:55

They're just there to make a mess for

33:57

Colin Kord. Anything. Yeah, but they just make

33:59

a mess. And if you're

34:01

trying to steal something and this kid is there just go

34:03

to a different house, don't you think? Yeah,

34:06

they seem very it took it very personal that they couldn't

34:08

get to the mccosh's house I think they wanted to

34:10

be murderers more than Criminals like more

34:12

than like people who steal things because they wanted

34:14

to kill Kevin like Mars not a

34:16

very good criminal I feel like like Harry kind

34:18

of has the Agreed to be when he seems

34:20

a little bit more focused a little bit more

34:23

You know a little bit less gullible

34:26

Marv's a little bit more driven by

34:28

by animosity and just personal slights and

34:30

stuff and also if his Marv is

34:33

Constantly falling into the traps. Whereas Harry

34:36

You know Harry kind of whether it's you

34:38

know The doorknob or you know testing

34:40

stuff out or like he's he's

34:42

kind of trying to be one step ahead um,

34:45

but but Claire I'm right with

34:47

you as far as like just how careless

34:50

it was to you know to leave their

34:52

signature like the wet bandits or the sticky

34:54

bandits on in Homeland

34:56

two of you know, just telling

34:58

the cops like hey This is like we're the

35:00

same criminals that did this and like I always

35:02

felt so bad for those people for the neighbors

35:04

Yeah, oh, yeah, all that

35:06

water damage, you know Show

35:09

the serve Pro, right? You

35:13

know the water is just gushing down the

35:15

stairs. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean they definitely

35:19

I think like that's a good pretty good evidence that

35:21

they actually wanted to be like serial killers as opposed

35:23

to You know just criminals because that's

35:25

what serial killers do is leave their mark, you

35:27

know So I think we may

35:29

have uncracked something here with that How

35:32

many you brought this up before our pizza guy?

35:35

How many people in Chicago are run down every

35:37

year by the little narrows trying to meet their

35:39

20 minutes or I pay you tagline? That's

35:43

like I love that they won't

35:46

was like this kind of local You

35:49

know, whatever little like it's like it's not

35:51

a chain It's not Domino's but it's it's

35:53

like the guy they just that is the

35:55

perfect pizza delivery driver

36:01

And then, you know, like it's such a good

36:04

callback too, because in that first scene, where

36:06

he's like, hey, who's, who's in charge around

36:08

here? And, you know,

36:11

Harry's just standing there like dressed

36:13

up as the cop, which was

36:15

great in and of itself. And they're like, you know,

36:17

I have no idea. And then, you know, somebody ends

36:19

up coming by, I think Peter and he's like, Oh,

36:21

here's the, you know, here's the

36:24

wad of cash for these 25 pizzas

36:26

or whatever. But yeah,

36:28

I don't know. I think the, the,

36:30

the pizza thing is, I almost

36:33

feel like they could have tied it in a little

36:35

bit more, like had the little Nero's guy, you know,

36:38

be, be a witness later on or

36:40

be, you know, pull up when

36:43

Kevin orders another pizza because Kevin does that

36:45

whole, like, like

36:47

macaroni and cheese scene before he's about

36:49

to, you know, have the big

36:51

night. And, you know, and like, that's the thing

36:53

where he blows out the candles, he doesn't

36:55

even get to eat his mac and cheese. But I

36:57

feel like you probably should use ordered pizza that night

36:59

too. Right. Claire, did you, did your

37:02

family have a place they would order pizza from significantly? And

37:04

well, yeah, that's the place uncle Tony's that we

37:06

always go to. I think that those

37:09

things are what makes the movie so good.

37:11

It's such a normal thing. Like everyone has

37:13

that. And then they take it to the

37:15

next level with him like hitting the thing

37:17

and calling him a cheap skate and stuff.

37:19

But yeah, I think it's, I love that

37:21

they didn't go with anything. So Domino's

37:23

around here takes literally two hours.

37:26

So I think 20 minutes is

37:28

insane. 20 minutes is so fast.

37:31

Two hours is way too long. We stopped ordering. But

37:35

yeah, 20 minutes to I pay you

37:37

is so good. I love just when he hits the

37:39

thing in the front. It's

37:41

so classic. And that's like a teenager just

37:43

got his license. He's like, sick, I'll deliver

37:46

pizzas. I can listen to the radio when

37:48

I'm driving and just is horrible at

37:50

it. So. I mean,

37:52

I think Tony's in Rhode Island is that's

37:55

right on the nose. We,

38:00

there was this, there's this golf tournament that when they're amateur

38:02

they play us and he, I think

38:04

he went there like five nights in a

38:06

row. It was just, you know, and it's

38:08

not, it's not spectacular. It's just. Pizza

38:11

and pasta and it's, but you go in and it

38:13

feels like you're sitting in your grandmother's living room, which

38:16

is so funny. I,

38:18

he needs to, Rory needs to get on this. Maybe that's why

38:21

he's waiting two hours for Domino's pizza

38:23

all the time. He'd feel more rested.

38:27

It's grateful. Rory, if you're listening, which I know you

38:29

might be. Check

38:31

out uncle Tony's. Oh, the

38:33

other thing I wanted to say about the pizza guy, why

38:35

did the pizza guy not call the police

38:37

after he, he thought that someone was gunned

38:39

like firing a Tommy gun at him out

38:41

through the window? I mean, he

38:43

never thought about that before. Yeah,

38:46

that's crazy. Yeah. I mean, I guess it's like 16

38:48

gotta be 16, 17 somewhere in there. Yeah.

38:52

He's gotta be like probably dealing drugs on the side

38:54

or something. Yeah. Right. And he's trying to go hang

38:56

out with his friends after he just wants to be done with it. Dude,

38:59

you'll never believe what happened. Absolutely.

39:03

Somebody just shut up at me.

39:07

How did Kevin learn how to do laundry? Uh,

39:09

cause like, I mean, how old are you guys when you learn

39:11

to do laundry? Cause like, no lie. I mean, I, I did

39:13

learn, I think like late in high school, but that was like

39:15

high school, there's no way I would have learned how to know

39:18

it at all. How to do laundry. I was eight years old.

39:20

Eight's really young. Uh, and,

39:22

and you know, this is back before they

39:24

had like the condensed. Detergent.

39:27

Right. So you got to pour a shitload of detergent

39:30

in there. It's like

39:32

a little high efficiency, a little

39:34

dab of detergent. Um, and like

39:36

the fact that he knows to buy detergent

39:38

too, like, did they not have any detergent

39:40

at home? Why? Because

39:42

that was one of the reasons that the shopping

39:44

bag splits open on his walk, walk

39:47

home. Yeah. It's like, it's just impressive

39:49

all around. He's he's he's matured beyond

39:51

his years. You

39:54

didn't answer my question that when did you guys learn how to do laundry? That

39:59

is kind of a weird one. Yeah, so

40:01

I was super, super anal about

40:04

my clothes. And my mom was like a

40:06

really bad folder. I hate to air my

40:08

mom out. I hear my wife dropped

40:11

off. She's all pissed at me

40:13

for the Christmas lights to buckle. We

40:16

had we had somebody professionally do our Christmas lights

40:19

in the front of our house. And I was

40:21

not I was not happy about it. I said

40:23

that quote, we are not this kind of people

40:25

out. You wanted to do it yourself. Yeah,

40:27

I just, you know, throw some up on the

40:29

on the bushes and wrap around the palm tree.

40:32

And she wanted to put them like, you know,

40:34

kind of on the eaves of the house and all that which

40:36

I will say the Macalesters have good, good, good.

40:39

Very good. But they

40:41

strike me as the kind of people that would probably do them

40:43

professionally. Anyway, yeah,

40:47

my mom just wasn't like, my

40:49

shit was always wrinkled. Right. So,

40:52

and my grandma was like this great folder and I

40:54

was just maybe I was just persnickety your type A

40:56

about it, but I started doing my laundry when I

40:59

was like, probably in sixth or

41:01

seventh grade. Probably knew

41:03

how to do it before then. But yeah, so

41:05

that's a confession. Same

41:08

here, but it was because I

41:10

find like baby fat the summer going into seventh

41:13

grade had my own money bought like cool clothes

41:15

for the first time ever and I was like,

41:18

my sister is going to steal this and she's going to

41:20

wear it and it's going to get lost in the wash

41:22

and maybe like it'll get shrunk if I don't wash it

41:24

myself. I have to know how I have to do this

41:26

myself. So it was more just like a greed thing on

41:28

my part. I was like, I don't want any of this

41:31

to get misplaced. And I don't want

41:33

anyone else to be able to touch it. So I just did. What

41:36

about you? You said high school. High

41:38

school, I think, I mean, I think a similar deal,

41:40

like eventually your parents, you get tired of like the

41:42

waiting for the cycle of like, oh, my parents do

41:44

my laundry. I want to wear my favorite things. And

41:47

so I'm just going to learn. I'm like my mom.

41:49

I remember kind of march me downstairs. I'm like, all

41:51

right, here's what you do. But I wouldn't

41:53

have been, you know, I certainly would have

41:55

been seventh grade. I would have been probably 15, 16. I mean,

41:57

with unlike yourself, TC, a lot of boys. like

42:00

they're going to be a little

42:02

bit more, you know, reluctant somehow, I think.

42:04

Especially like in college. Yeah. I mean, I

42:06

had a friend, I had a roommate in

42:08

college whose mom would literally like through junior,

42:10

senior year, come over, pick up

42:12

his laundry, do laundry, bring it back folded. And

42:15

that was, there was no like dream at all

42:17

that he was going to do. Even though we

42:19

literally had washer dryer in our house,

42:21

which was like there for a lot of college places. He

42:24

wasn't touching that. So yeah, I'm

42:26

convinced. I'm

42:28

convinced like Neil didn't, I don't even think Neil is

42:30

his laundry in college. Like Neil, you could fold up

42:32

Neil's clothes in a ball and roll them up in

42:34

a ball and he would have worn them like all

42:37

the way growing up. And then even in college, like

42:39

I think, I think his girlfriend, I don't think he,

42:41

I still don't think he knows how to do laundry

42:43

or, or do the dishes

42:47

or anything. It's crazy. Maybe it was when Neil got

42:50

that pinstripe suit, the DiMaggio suit, he started taking things

42:52

seriously. And he was there to go to his job.

42:54

You know, I was at the Killhouse one night when

42:57

I was down in Jax for some, I think

42:59

a Jags story and Neil was

43:01

like doing laundry. He was folding his laundry

43:03

very nicely in the living room. Wow. Yeah.

43:05

I remember we were talking about Aaron Rodgers.

43:08

So he must've learned along the way to be like,

43:10

all right, I'm very particular about what my laundry needs

43:12

to be. All

43:14

right. Laundry diversion. Probably

43:17

when he became the merch star, he had to really

43:19

think about, you know, these

43:22

things work. All right. When

43:24

Kate is trying to get home to

43:26

Kevin, she says to someone, whatever she

43:29

said, she has taken the Paris, Dallas,

43:31

Scranton, hopefully Chicago, well, she

43:33

never gets connection. I

43:35

thought I wanted to ask you guys this. What is

43:37

the craziest connection that you guys have ever taken? I

43:39

have two stories. And the backstory to this

43:42

is that I did not grow up traveling.

43:44

So for my first 18 months at golf.com,

43:46

like there was just a

43:48

disaster every time I tried to fly. So

43:50

the first one is I

43:52

knew nothing about travel. And

43:55

Dylan is coaching me through

43:57

this, but he's in Seattle. He says you need to find

43:59

out. an airline to be loyal to,

44:01

you can get points. I'm like, awesome. What

44:03

do you use for an airline? He says

44:06

Alaska Airlines. Perfect. I sign

44:08

up for Alaska Airlines. So

44:11

this is great backdrop stuff right here. Thank you.

44:14

I sign up for Alaska Airlines and

44:16

every layover I have, I live in

44:18

Boston, is in Seattle. And

44:23

not only that, you're flying like Boston to Seattle.

44:25

So that's like a six hour flight. Oh

44:28

yeah. I'm going, and my coworkers are

44:30

getting places like seven hours before me.

44:32

And they're like, Claire, and I'm having

44:35

14, 15

44:37

hour travel days. I'm going from Boston

44:39

to Seattle to Phoenix. There's a

44:41

direct flight on Delta to Boston to Phoenix.

44:43

And I'm going to Seattle. I

44:45

have this app and it shows you the most, like

44:48

what airports you've been to the most times after,

44:50

and I stopped doing this year and a half

44:52

ago, after Boston Logan,

44:55

it's Seattle. I've been there like 14 times.

44:58

And then I did, I was going to the

45:00

Lake Tahoe thing. So you have

45:02

to go to Reno. And again, I went to Seattle first and

45:04

it was literally a 17 hour travel day.

45:06

So that is my first horrible thing. And

45:09

going back East, you did the same

45:11

thing. So you would be taking like

45:13

a red eye home, but you would

45:15

fly to Seattle first. And then, and

45:18

my coworkers start like yelling at me. I'm like,

45:20

so I said, I

45:23

didn't say Alaska. I said Alaska works for me. But

45:25

then the other one I did was,

45:27

so we were at, two years

45:29

ago last week, actually, we were at Pinehurst

45:31

for this top 100 teacher conference. And

45:34

I, I kept having to switch my flight. And

45:37

I had like a layover at that point,

45:39

I figured out maybe not, but I see

45:42

adults to finders. No, I'm just kidding. So, but

45:45

I switched my flight like four times.

45:47

And I thought I was just

45:50

switching it and not like fully rebooking a

45:52

new flight. And so we're on like the

45:55

15th hole on number nine at Pinehurst. And

45:57

I keep getting texts like your plane is

45:59

that weird. And I'm like, that's

46:01

weird. I'll just not pay them to do it. And

46:03

then like 40 minutes later, your plane is now boarding.

46:06

And I had booked like four flights out

46:08

of, I found this screenshot. It's

46:11

so bad. Look

46:13

at my calendar that day. Oh

46:15

my gosh. And

46:19

I like go up to Sean and Sean's like, he

46:22

was like not, he had no pages

46:24

for us. Cause I do this stuff all the time. And

46:26

Dylan's like, let's call Delta

46:28

and let's see. And they're like not answering. He's like,

46:30

listen, I have to enjoy the last three holes here.

46:34

And my bosses were like, expense the

46:36

most expensive one. And you're just going to have

46:38

to, this'll be a lesson learned. So since

46:40

then I haven't had any massive mistakes, but there

46:42

have been some really bad ones. I

46:45

did double book myself over this year. I was

46:47

coming back from, uh, coming back

46:49

from the UK. And that

46:51

was like, basically I just had to get from

46:54

Glasgow to London. And then I had to direct

46:56

from London to LA. And

46:59

I double booked myself

47:01

on British airways and

47:04

like, they're not like you, you

47:07

are not getting a refund from

47:09

BA under any circumstances or anything.

47:11

And not only that, you're not talking to a human being.

47:15

You're like sending in a paper request

47:17

or whatever. But, uh, as far

47:19

as the craziest kind

47:21

of layover or, uh, you

47:23

know, connection story. My wife

47:26

and I were going out this is February. This

47:28

is January, February, 2020. We're

47:30

going to tell your

47:32

ride. So we're, so we're flying

47:34

Jax to Houston, Houston,

47:37

to Montrose, Colorado. And

47:40

there's a, this crazy line of thunderstorms

47:42

from like the middle of the Gulf

47:44

of Mexico, all the way to St.

47:47

Louisville, Cincinnati, like, and we're

47:50

supposed to be on this little regional jet, like this

47:52

CRJ from Jax

47:55

to Houston, but we can't like, we

47:57

can't go South of the storm because

47:59

the. The jet's not rated to

48:01

go over water, really. They're like large bodies

48:03

of water. And we couldn't go north because

48:05

the storm was so long. So

48:08

they're like, and there's so many, like everybody, like

48:10

nobody on the flight going to

48:12

Houston. Everybody's got connections beyond that. So

48:15

they finally, they're like, all right, we're gonna fly to St. Louis and

48:20

we're gonna refuel in St. Louis. And

48:22

then we're gonna go to Houston after St. Louis.

48:24

And we're gonna be two or three hours late, but

48:26

at least everybody, there's more flights or whatever. There's a

48:28

lot of flights delayed that day out of Houston.

48:32

So we landed in St. Louis, refuel, fly

48:35

down to Houston. And then, so

48:38

I get on the United app. I

48:40

booked Houston to Austin, Austin

48:43

to Tulsa, Tulsa

48:45

to Denver, Denver to Montrose. I

48:49

think it ended up being like six legs and

48:51

we ended up getting, cause they basically said to

48:53

us at the gate in Jacksonville. They're like, if

48:55

you don't get on this flight, and I was

48:57

like, just get us to Houston because there was

48:59

no way that we were, it was like

49:01

a three or four day ski trip we were gonna take. And

49:03

this was on Saturday morning. And if we didn't get

49:06

out on Saturday, we weren't gonna get

49:08

there till Monday. And it would have

49:10

kind of defeated, and like my parents had come in to

49:12

watch the kids and everything and I was like, we're getting,

49:14

all right, it was just Friday at that point. It was

49:16

like, we're getting at least halfway

49:19

there. And we ended up getting there. They

49:21

lost our luggage, all

49:23

that, but it was like- It was like- It was on

49:25

the six legs. Well, yeah, they

49:27

told us, they're like, hey, your luggage isn't gonna arrive. It

49:29

ends up arriving the next day, which was fine. We're like,

49:31

hey, like that's totally fine. But yeah,

49:33

I think it was the first time anybody ever

49:36

connected in Tulsa to go

49:38

anywhere. But like, I've done

49:40

it before too, where like I've been flying home from,

49:43

I think LA or San Francisco and

49:45

I needed a segment. So like I've

49:48

connected in Sun Valley, Idaho before and

49:51

I've connected in Austin before. Wow.

49:54

That's just sicko behavior though. I

49:56

need to go backwards just for a second. How long did it

49:58

take you to realize that like- the Seattle connection,

50:01

like probably a poor idea. You

50:03

might even get into all sorts

50:06

of status. Oh, my god. I'm

50:08

like royalty when I go. Well, that was the other

50:10

thing. I wasn't even looking

50:12

at other airlines. I was just like,

50:14

you can look at Google Flights. I

50:17

would just go to Alaska Airlines and

50:20

just type in where I needed to be. And I was like,

50:22

oh, through Seattle again. And I remember

50:24

it became a joke because I have a couple of

50:26

cousins who live there. And so I would send them

50:28

a photo every time I was in Seattle. And they

50:31

were like, why are you always here? And I was

50:33

like, oh, traveling so much for this new job going

50:35

all across the country. That's

50:38

like not the easiest airport to connect

50:40

at either. There's all sorts of. It's

50:43

not a, I don't know. But I

50:45

will say Alaska is

50:47

like the highest rated airline for

50:50

how friendly the staff is, the

50:52

seats, how comfortable they are. But

50:55

I just remember it was always Dylan and I

50:57

were traveling together. I was like, all right, I'm

50:59

landing in Seattle at like this hour. And then

51:01

he'll get on the next flight and we'll travel together

51:04

to the next. Which makes

51:06

absolutely no sense. But when I, yeah,

51:08

it probably took me like eight

51:10

or nine months for this. And then I couldn't

51:12

tell anyone. So he didn't say anything to you

51:14

when like, so you kept showing up in Seattle.

51:18

But you're like, what the hell are you doing on

51:20

my flight? I don't

51:22

know. I didn't say anything. I

51:25

was kind of in the back and I used

51:27

to take like anxiety medicine supplies. So I would

51:29

be so out of it anyways, that

51:32

I just be like, all right, seven hours to get

51:34

there. And then I have four more.

51:36

Like it's fine. And I would just

51:38

be like in a totally like kind

51:41

of asleep for half of it anyways. So

51:43

it didn't totally matter. But now

51:45

when I get places in like three hours, it just

51:47

feels like such a treat because it used to have

51:49

to be like. You put in your time. So

51:54

it was always Seattle. It

51:57

was never because they've got hubs at Portland. San

52:00

Diego, and directs from Boston to

52:02

there too, right? It was always Seattle. Always

52:05

Seattle. So that

52:07

is incredible. We may have to have

52:09

Dylan to share on and sort of

52:11

put him on trial for poorly. We

52:13

were talking about it like yesterday or something. And I

52:15

asked him because we were talking about some travel mistake.

52:17

And I was like, that's gonna be the worst one.

52:20

He's like, I think the only thing worse than the

52:22

Alaska thing is the Pinehurst thing. But I think the

52:24

Alaska Airlines thing is the worst. So

52:28

going back to home alone here, KBB, because

52:31

I also want to hear yours, but I'm sure you got some crazy

52:33

ones. Why? Alright, so she's going

52:35

from Paris to, so

52:38

she went where? Paris to Dallas. Okay,

52:42

so like, you know,

52:44

she could have gone Paris to London. But

52:46

then Dallas is an American hub, right?

52:48

And Dallas, like, I think Scranton is

52:50

only like three out. I think Scranton

52:52

is like 11, 10 or 11 hours

52:55

from Chicago. Whereas Dallas

52:57

is like 13 to drive. And

53:00

Dallas to Chicago would be an American

53:02

hub. I cannot believe they couldn't get

53:04

her on a flight from Dallas to

53:06

Chicago or even love, love

53:09

field to Midwest. True. Yeah. You

53:11

know, or Milwaukee or, you know,

53:13

how long has love been in existence? So is

53:16

love, you know, a big functioning airport in 1990?

53:19

Actually, that's true. Because love was what that was

53:21

like, I think they

53:23

could only use it for intro

53:26

Texas flights, I think for a while,

53:29

Southwest could and then the you

53:31

know, yeah, you know, again, this

53:33

this might be, although I guess 1990,

53:36

this is well after deregulation and everything as well.

53:38

So I don't know. I'll get back to you

53:40

on that. Okay, this I don't think anyone has

53:42

ever examined Home Alone this way. So I'm proud

53:44

of us for discussing this. I your guys stories

53:46

make me feel a little bit like

53:49

I don't have a great one.

53:51

I won my ex wife's mother

53:53

turned 60. She we

53:55

took a family trip to St. Bart's, which

53:57

have ever been to St. Bart's like requires

54:00

uh, you know, we're in the same bars, requires a

54:02

bunch of connections. So my uncle

54:04

was getting married in, uh, Pocatello,

54:07

Idaho, like lay

54:09

a day after our family vacation. And

54:12

my, my ex-wife really wanted me to come to

54:14

this family vacation because it had been

54:16

booked for like, you know, a year. And

54:19

so my father kind of figured out a way for me

54:21

to get from St. Bart's to Pocatello,

54:23

which required me to fly from

54:25

St. Bart's to St. Martin from

54:28

then from St. Martin to JFK, from

54:30

JFK to Vegas. And then I slept

54:32

on the floor of the Las Vegas

54:34

airport. And then I flew from there

54:37

to Salt Lake city and I drove from Salt Lake

54:39

city to Pocatello. How long did

54:41

this take? I, it had

54:43

to take 24 hours essentially. I mean, it

54:45

was like, my dad is,

54:47

is very insane. He loves to like

54:49

try to gimmick the system and try to,

54:52

so I'm sure like I, you

54:54

know, it was on different airlines. I'm certain, I mean,

54:56

why else would I have had to sleep on the

54:58

floor of the Las Vegas airport for four hours and

55:01

then go to Salt Lake? But you know, it was like, that was

55:03

the only way to make the ticket in any

55:05

way reasonable, but my mom was like, you have to

55:07

get him here. I don't care like how we're going

55:09

to do it. So I'm sure my dad didn't even

55:11

entirely inform my mom of like what was going on.

55:14

Uh, but he was like, yeah, this is, this'll work. You

55:16

just figure out my dad would like often he would

55:19

book flights and then you would be on another airline,

55:21

but there wouldn't be enough time to like leave the

55:25

thing and go back through security. So he'd be like, just

55:27

go up to like, if you get off of

55:29

the Southwest flight or whatever and it's a United flight, just go

55:31

over to the gate and tell them that you lost your boarding

55:34

pass or whatever, and then they'll print out another one

55:36

for you right there and then you can just get

55:38

on the thing. So I'm sure, you know, we violated

55:40

all kinds of security protocols that way. Same

55:44

parts to Pocatello. That's a,

55:46

that's wild. Uh, guys,

55:48

just looking here, this was subject to

55:50

the right amendment, which stated

55:52

that Southwest had kind of exclusivity

55:54

at Lovefield and they could only

55:57

fly to neighboring states.

56:00

and Texas. So

56:02

Louisiana, Arkansas, Oklahoma, New Mexico from

56:05

Lovefield up until like the mid

56:09

90s. So after this was filmed. So

56:11

Lovefield would not have been an option for her. It

56:15

feels like T.C. to pivot here from it's a good time

56:18

to talk about Ed and Irene. As you

56:21

mentioned earlier, how cold hearted are

56:23

these people? I mean, we learned that an eight

56:25

year old child has been left alone. He can't

56:27

be contacted. He's got a panicky mother and she's,

56:31

Kate is offering two

56:33

first class tickets, a ring, a fake

56:36

Rolex, some earrings and exchange, and they get an

56:38

extra day out of France out of it. At

56:40

least an extra day, maybe two. And they're

56:43

like still playing hardball right through the air.

56:46

Wasn't there like a pocket organizer

56:48

or something? Yeah, a pocket translator

56:50

as well, which would have been, you know,

56:53

huge. They're the earrings, the

56:55

dangly ones, if you remember correctly. I did

56:57

say she had a whole box full of

57:00

those. That's my whole thing is like, you know, Irene

57:04

is trying to make the case that

57:06

they should do this through the,

57:09

you know, what she's offering. And it's like, do you have

57:11

any room in your heart to help

57:13

her out? Like, you can't have a good way.

57:16

And their vacation is over at this point. It's

57:18

not like they're missing out on any additional vacation.

57:20

Yeah. You know what? And like American, again, they

57:23

could have been like, Hey, you know what? We're

57:25

going to offer a thousand bucks or 1500 bucks

57:27

or $2,000 if

57:29

somebody will give up their seat, you know, and they

57:32

don't. Yeah. American

57:35

really has some things to answer for after

57:37

this. This is kind of a disgrace.

57:39

DC, I didn't know that we were going to get into

57:41

this with American, but you know, this

57:43

may have been a Trojan horse for you

57:45

to criticize. This is back before American was

57:47

like even a bad airline. Like this is

57:49

back when they had a good first class

57:51

premium product. This is pre-US air merger. You

57:54

gotta take good care of you. Well,

57:57

they were so premium that Frank said that they should. deal

58:00

the crystal to his wife. Your

58:05

purse. Well, your purse. I

58:08

want to just ask the question generally, how

58:10

did Kevin McCallister become like a military

58:12

grade sniper? Like is this the product

58:14

of just being like, you know, beat

58:17

down by, or it was buzz teaching him on

58:19

this. Does he go to some sort of like

58:21

weapons school? I mean, it's crazy that he's, he

58:23

just picks up buzz, his gun, and he's just

58:25

blowing away action figures, uh, right and left. That

58:28

might be the answer to our, our what

58:30

sports thing. Maybe he's only the biathlon team.

58:32

That's a great call. That's why he can

58:34

run so well. And he doesn't, he's used

58:36

to running with poles or whatever. It's just

58:38

a gig. Did he play

58:40

video games or was he just watching movies? No

58:44

video games. I don't think he plays video games

58:46

there. I was going to say like the modern

58:48

kid would be on call of duty or something.

58:50

Kind of hone that skill in a little bit,

58:52

maybe, but yeah, maybe I

58:54

played a lot of 1990 was this, was

58:56

this like the original Nintendo?

59:00

I would think original Nintendo would think, I mean,

59:03

pre-atar post Atari, right as a

59:05

kind of gaming, pre-sego, maybe pre-Nintendo.

59:08

You got to think that Macales would have

59:10

like six, like gaming consoles. Yeah. Sometimes, you

59:13

know, whenever they would get a new one,

59:15

they would just

59:18

move it up to the attic. Yeah.

59:22

I was wondering if it was like, good. This is

59:24

Chris Kyle's origin story, like American sniper. Like he just

59:26

gets abused and beaten down by his family and then

59:28

feels like he has to protect the innocent from then

59:30

on. That just goes on to Iraq and record

59:33

kills. We'll have to talk to Cody about that. When

59:35

Kevin meets up with old man Marley in the church, this

59:37

is kind of the emotional heart of the film. My wife

59:40

and I were watching this the other night and we

59:42

both kind of teared up a little bit. We hadn't seen Home Alone

59:44

in many years. Uh, really loved this

59:46

scene. Loved, loved this actor. What do you guys

59:49

remember about this, this scene? Why do you think

59:51

it sort of ends up being the heart of

59:53

the film? Apparently it wasn't originally in the original

59:55

script. What song was playing in

59:57

the church? Oh, was it? I took

59:59

a question. I do. not know. I'll look it

1:00:01

up. Is it a holy night? Maybe. I

1:00:03

think so. I feel like

1:00:05

old man Marley might be kind

1:00:07

of a maybe foreshadowing of Peter

1:00:10

McAllister and Kevin. Yeah

1:00:12

and I've never thought of that TC. Their

1:00:15

their grievances needed to be

1:00:18

brought back you know put it put aside and brought back together.

1:00:20

Yeah although maybe you know although it's like

1:00:22

it doesn't seem like Peter even cares enough

1:00:24

to argue. So that could

1:00:26

be part of it too where you know Peter

1:00:28

might not even be like just

1:00:30

he might not care enough about his family to

1:00:33

even get into an argument with Kevin. Yeah

1:00:36

I just think you know obviously there's

1:00:38

the sort of larger reflection of like you should put

1:00:41

aside your issues with your family. You should

1:00:43

sort of be able to love

1:00:45

them. You shouldn't push them away. But I

1:00:47

don't know that's that's always a nice a nice

1:00:51

way for a writer in some ways to

1:00:53

connect a larger theme without being super overt

1:00:55

about it. You know right it's kind of bring

1:00:57

in a secondary character. Also

1:00:59

I think that old man Marley totally

1:01:01

has killed people before. He wields that

1:01:03

shovel way too efficiently. He's in assault.

1:01:05

Yeah. Yeah maybe. I love him. He

1:01:08

was awesome. But maybe he was in NAMM. Maybe

1:01:10

you know maybe he was in Korea. Maybe he

1:01:12

was younger. Maybe he was a wet bandit when he was

1:01:14

younger and just kind of grew out of it. I

1:01:17

would definitely go into battle with old man Marley. I

1:01:20

just curious what do you guys think that they were arguing

1:01:22

about? Because I was sort of like him and his son.

1:01:24

I was thinking maybe like the Bears you know some sort of horror.

1:01:27

Yeah. I bet you like

1:01:30

married some guy or something that

1:01:32

he didn't like. I

1:01:34

mean you know like just thinking about the

1:01:36

time frame it could have been. Yeah certainly

1:01:38

anything with the Mccasky family and the Bears

1:01:41

or maybe it was the original schism between

1:01:43

the PGA of America and the PGA for.

1:01:45

He was. Yeah. He was a massive PGA

1:01:47

of America guy. Yeah. I

1:01:49

could see old man Marley wanting to make sure

1:01:52

that you know kids learn the game the right

1:01:54

way and all this money is corrupting the game.

1:01:56

The disgusting individual. Going

1:01:58

back to your John Hughes. question. Like

1:02:00

I think just thinking back to all

1:02:03

these indelible, kind of iconic scenes,

1:02:05

like even old man, Marley walk

1:02:08

around with a shovel and the

1:02:10

whole trash can full

1:02:13

of salt or when

1:02:15

Marvin Harry, you know, the

1:02:17

house is flooding and they put them up against

1:02:20

the door and it looks like they've gotten like there's

1:02:22

just, you did such a good job of

1:02:24

like the iconic, truly iconic

1:02:26

scenes and you know, or even

1:02:28

Kevin like in front of the

1:02:31

van, where you know, they

1:02:34

they almost run him over like there's

1:02:36

just so many. Yeah, it's like everything

1:02:38

is just so well done and they

1:02:40

figure out how to make each moment

1:02:42

feel so singular. I think the

1:02:44

thing I've old man Marley like makes me it's funny

1:02:46

to me that like old man Marley didn't

1:02:49

like share the fact that he just beat the show his

1:02:51

criminals like he didn't tell you know that the family doesn't

1:02:53

really know what's going on. Kevin has cleaned

1:02:55

up the house in this pristine way and old man Marley's just kind

1:02:57

of like, yeah, you know, if you go on and

1:03:00

do your thing kid like great job like he's just

1:03:02

kind of fades back to his life. It's some

1:03:05

superhero shit. Kevin's

1:03:07

kind of an old soul, you know, a lot of

1:03:09

kids would have yeah, we've done TikTok about

1:03:11

this or, you know, try to get a

1:03:13

movie deal or something like that. Kevin just

1:03:15

goes back to, you know,

1:03:17

doing his thing and nobody knows that he's

1:03:19

just this quiet hero, you know. Let's

1:03:22

get to the sort of the

1:03:25

big, you know, assault on the house, the

1:03:27

Kevin sort of, you know,

1:03:29

prepping everything. What is your favorite trap

1:03:31

that Kevin sets? What what makes you

1:03:33

smile when you see it even still

1:03:35

Claire every Christmas? She's

1:03:38

I think the classic one is the hot the

1:03:40

door. But what's the

1:03:43

one that this one always freaked me

1:03:45

out when he's going up to the attic,

1:03:47

and then stuff falls down. And then that

1:03:49

one freaks me out. Just

1:03:51

or the swinging barbell? Yeah,

1:03:53

I guess I'm getting them confused. But both of them

1:03:55

I kind of was like, Oh, like, did they show

1:03:57

it? It's like your piercing scene. parent

1:04:00

trap where I'm like, I have to look away. I've

1:04:02

probably never actually seen that full thing, but

1:04:05

I think the hot door, just like them, cause

1:04:08

you have to laugh at it and it kind of

1:04:10

happens twice with both guys. Um,

1:04:12

yeah, I guess those, but all of them is

1:04:15

a, it's the laundry shoot one.

1:04:17

I like the scene of him like setting it up,

1:04:19

but I don't know if that's it

1:04:21

was iron. Uh, he, he like puts

1:04:23

the, the, like it's like a light bulb.

1:04:25

So the lights go out and then he

1:04:27

pulls the light chain down and then the

1:04:29

lion hits him in the, in the face,

1:04:32

which I know I, I gotta say that

1:04:34

iron really didn't connect with his face long

1:04:36

enough to leave an actual like, you know,

1:04:38

permanent like iron pressing burn mark, but you

1:04:40

know, obviously suspension of disbelief, whatever. That's

1:04:42

one of my favorite quotes and all smashed his

1:04:44

face with an iron. Like

1:04:48

I love the blowtorch blowtorch,

1:04:51

especially cause it just sages just the, that top

1:04:53

of his head. And it's, you know, the hat

1:04:55

is kind of burned on

1:04:57

around. Uh, the feathers is always

1:05:00

a really good touch

1:05:02

from him as well. You know, the Christmas

1:05:04

ornaments I love when he sets those out,

1:05:06

but the nail is

1:05:08

iconic when he, the nail, I always have to

1:05:11

look away. That's the one where

1:05:13

I've got, I just can't, can't, I guess it's imagine the

1:05:15

nail going through my own foot. Maybe that's it's

1:05:17

power, but oh man, that's in

1:05:21

one or two that, that Marv,

1:05:25

like there's some, like, I feel like they get hurt

1:05:28

even worse in two, right? I

1:05:30

mean, he's falling like three stories

1:05:32

London. Yeah. But like

1:05:34

the, it's in one, right? Where he does the

1:05:37

markets electrocuted. Or

1:05:40

is that in two? I think it's two, right? And

1:05:42

you can like see his skull. Yeah.

1:05:44

Like you can all the paint all over him. Yeah. That's,

1:05:48

I think that's my favorite of all of them. So

1:05:50

good. I, the one thing I did wonder is

1:05:52

like, you know, it Kevin like set up it,

1:05:54

obviously like a, you know, a

1:05:56

Rube Goldberg type machine of different traps. Because

1:05:58

like, if, if Marv doesn't. go

1:06:00

through the basement, first of all, and lose his shoes,

1:06:02

then he doesn't, going through the window and stepping on

1:06:05

the glass Christmas ornaments doesn't really mean

1:06:07

anything. But obviously Kevin, you know, had a

1:06:09

plan and executed it effectively, you

1:06:11

know, complete with the zip line

1:06:13

escape and such. But you know,

1:06:16

the ornaments on the, by

1:06:18

the Christmas tree wouldn't have, wouldn't have mattered at all

1:06:20

unless he suddenly wear, wasn't wearing shoes. So it's quite

1:06:22

the bold play by Kevin, I must say in that

1:06:25

sense. Do you think if, if

1:06:27

Kevin had like, you know, literally like melted Joe

1:06:29

Pesci's face off, would it

1:06:31

possibly be charged with murder? I mean, like, what, what kind

1:06:33

of like district attorney are we thinking was looking here in

1:06:35

like, in Illinois at this

1:06:37

point? What kind of standard ground laws do you think were

1:06:39

effective in 1990 in Illinois? This

1:06:42

could be Lori Lightfoot's Chicago, you know,

1:06:44

or nor the daily crime family. Yeah,

1:06:50

I mean, it's kind of like there was a loss of a

1:06:53

while back, right, about some intruder

1:06:56

that fell on a knife and hurt

1:06:59

himself. And I think the homeowner got

1:07:01

sued under like

1:07:03

tort law. And it was, you know, I think

1:07:06

the homeowner was liable for the guy.

1:07:08

Yeah, it's crazy, which, you know,

1:07:11

I will say this is, it's

1:07:14

a pretty Tony suburb. But

1:07:16

yeah, you just gotta, you gotta wonder about the DA up

1:07:18

there, you know, early

1:07:21

90s, TBD, I think.

1:07:23

Yeah, that's a good thought. All right. All

1:07:26

right, Claire, would you rather ride from

1:07:28

Scranton to Milwaukee with John Candy's poke

1:07:30

band in the back of U-Haul or

1:07:33

spend one hour with Patrick Cantley and

1:07:35

Xander Schopel listening to them talk about,

1:07:37

you know, cryptocurrency and the structure of

1:07:40

future tour and I don't know, like,

1:07:42

Keegan Bradley's wardrobe, like, tell

1:07:45

me like, what, what do you, what scenario would you

1:07:48

prefer with golfers that you could

1:07:50

think of? Yeah, I'm

1:07:52

picking the ride from Scranton. I'm

1:07:54

walking 10 out of 10 times

1:07:56

because I feel like I'm dying when

1:07:58

I'm in the middle. boring conversation. And

1:08:02

I think you would feel like 10 hours

1:08:04

either way, right? Because I didn't want to

1:08:06

be sitting there for one hour would feel

1:08:08

like 10 to me and I would just

1:08:10

be that was like my version of torture

1:08:12

just sitting with a conversation that I don't

1:08:14

want to talk about. And that I find

1:08:16

boring. I remember once I listened, they were

1:08:18

talking about the lawsuits and I like just

1:08:20

got up and like left the table for

1:08:23

like 20 minutes. And I was like, this

1:08:25

is so boring. So

1:08:27

yes, cryptocurrency and that

1:08:29

stuff is boring to me. I probably

1:08:32

don't understand it. No,

1:08:34

I don't understand it either. So we it's always the only

1:08:36

one who claims to understand it. And we all just kind

1:08:38

of glaze over whenever you talk about it. DC, what's the

1:08:40

most boring golf related conversation that you could think of come

1:08:43

up with? Oh, it's just

1:08:45

like, yeah, so what do you think about this list? Like, I

1:08:47

just had it 2025 times everything.

1:08:49

Yeah, I thought it was live

1:08:52

stuff. Yeah, man. I

1:08:54

don't know. Like, can we talk

1:08:56

about something else? KVV I

1:08:58

will say that it's a budget rental

1:09:00

car or budget truck. Not

1:09:03

you all. Oh, yeah. All right.

1:09:05

Great product placement there. Yeah, I would love

1:09:07

to be in that in that in that

1:09:10

box truck there. It kind of reminds me

1:09:12

everything. I see this

1:09:14

movie, it kind of reminds me of Jason

1:09:16

bone was on the NLU podcast a few

1:09:18

years ago after he got a three one

1:09:21

million dollars with the hole in one. He

1:09:24

was telling that story and he and

1:09:26

his buddies rode down from Alabama, from

1:09:28

Tuscaloosa down to New Orleans from Mardi

1:09:31

Gras. And they may

1:09:33

just put all this furniture in this box

1:09:35

truck and just got absolutely

1:09:37

smashed the whole way down, hung

1:09:40

out, you know, in inner

1:09:42

city New Orleans, like

1:09:44

basically living in this box truck for three,

1:09:46

four or five days. And then I just

1:09:49

think of that every time I see this

1:09:51

scene. Yeah. They're all making in too,

1:09:53

right? Like

1:09:55

that seems fun to me. That's so

1:09:58

much more fun than a regular car. True

1:10:00

as long as you're like, you know can hold on

1:10:02

to the wall or something in the car Yeah, you

1:10:04

don't want to like sway forward and smash your face.

1:10:06

But yeah, I like what is John's candy's poke bands

1:10:08

name I can't remember I did I should have written

1:10:11

it down But they seem like they've seen some shit

1:10:13

like they've they've lived a life,

1:10:15

you know They used talking about guidance

1:10:17

his family anymore. They're the most records ever

1:10:19

sold was like 600 and but they're there It

1:10:24

was like the Kenosha Kickers. That's

1:10:26

right. Okay, I would Where I

1:10:28

would have he's Gus Gus Polinski

1:10:32

I would love a Kenosha Kickers like head cover

1:10:34

or Something like

1:10:37

that that I would definitely throw that in my

1:10:39

bag for sure alright, so

1:10:42

So we're coming down to the end here Well,

1:10:45

just pick your favorite scene in this film. What do you

1:10:47

think didn't come down to it?

1:10:49

What would your sort of stick the landing here

1:10:51

be like the most important scene to me? It's

1:10:55

like for me it just comes down to all these different quotes whether

1:10:58

it's Uncle Frank like some of the

1:11:00

one-liners he says or You

1:11:04

know even in homeland to when when

1:11:07

he asked what kind of idiots do you have

1:11:09

working here? finest in

1:11:11

New York, sir like when When

1:11:15

Uncle Frank calls him get out of here you

1:11:17

little pervert Yeah You

1:11:19

know those like it just it just comes down

1:11:21

to all these little like the little scene in

1:11:24

the in the local

1:11:26

grocery store market where He's

1:11:28

buying all this stuff the ladies like how old are

1:11:30

you? Are you are you allowed to be here right

1:11:33

now? or when he asked the The

1:11:37

lady like is this toothbrush certified

1:11:40

by the American American I

1:11:44

Loved I loved just all those it's great. I

1:11:47

like when they finally realized on

1:11:49

the flight that They didn't

1:11:52

have Kevin and the uncle's like if it makes you

1:11:54

feel any better I forgot my reading glasses and then

1:11:56

in the second one my favorite movie line of

1:11:59

all time is when he

1:12:01

says he's like two scoops there and he's like,

1:12:03

make it three. I'm not driving. Is

1:12:05

that how the scoop

1:12:07

podcast got invented? I'm

1:12:10

such an ice cream gal. So I think

1:12:12

that's also probably why I like that line

1:12:15

so much. I would

1:12:17

have to pay on the flight to like when

1:12:19

she says, uh, uncle Frank's trying

1:12:21

to console her or whatever. And he's horrible,

1:12:25

horrible, horrible. I

1:12:29

would have to go when Kevin mimics

1:12:31

the angels with what's the movie? Angels,

1:12:34

broken souls, whatever. It's filthy soul, filthy

1:12:36

souls. And he does it keep dead

1:12:38

change. You feel the animal like I

1:12:41

such as an unbelievable, uh, sort of, you

1:12:43

know, reading of that line. It's my favorite.

1:12:45

Uh, it's the one that's stuck with me

1:12:47

other than the aftershave scene. The

1:12:50

most, uh, I'd say one other one. I

1:12:52

mean, there's so many, there's so

1:12:54

many quotes, but like when the kid,

1:12:56

when the neighbor kids going through, he's like, what kind

1:12:58

of gas mileage does this thing have here in the

1:13:00

college? Is it going to France? I heard they don't

1:13:03

give their armpits there, you know,

1:13:05

that or, uh, the second one,

1:13:08

uh, I think it's the second one when

1:13:10

they're doing the, like they realize

1:13:13

Kevin's not with them and they're at, I think

1:13:15

it's a baggage claim, right? And they're

1:13:17

passing the luggage and Kevin's not here.

1:13:19

Kevin's not here. Kevin's not here. It's

1:13:21

like the telephone back to, all

1:13:25

right, some cleanup here, guys. You know, we, we kind of

1:13:28

touched on this earlier, but is there any chance that like

1:13:30

Peter McAllister is in the mob? Like that

1:13:32

he's not even a legit businessman that he's just kind

1:13:34

of laundering money through various things. You know, there, he

1:13:36

doesn't, doesn't seem to have any kind

1:13:38

of, you know, job he's carrying

1:13:40

a lot of cash, obviously, uh, paper

1:13:42

pizzas, uh, very real chance that

1:13:44

this is like the Sopranos, you know, soft

1:13:47

pilot or origin like

1:13:49

Spencer. That was one of the theories that he

1:13:51

went with. He's like, Kevin is the star of

1:13:53

the series because he's the one true heir to

1:13:56

the McAllister crime empire's throne. Like

1:13:59

it's like. Buzz is kind

1:14:01

of the muscle, kind

1:14:04

of the thuggish character

1:14:06

here. Peter's kind of the money guy.

1:14:09

Uncle Frank might be the real

1:14:12

criminal mastermind though. Interesting.

1:14:14

This is a real picky-blinder situation now

1:14:16

that I think about it. Maybe the

1:14:18

Macalesters are actually the inspiration for picky-blinders.

1:14:22

A couple of third loose ends that I found.

1:14:25

Fox News got real upset a couple years ago.

1:14:27

It said that the scene in the grocery store

1:14:30

sort of explains inflation because Kevin's

1:14:32

able to buy like $90 worth of

1:14:34

groceries for like $19. I don't know

1:14:37

if you guys noticed this but I found

1:14:39

a Reddit page dedicated to Home Alone which

1:14:41

I would highly encourage you to visit. But

1:14:44

they actually pointed out that Heather counts

1:14:46

herself twice in the counting of it. Even though

1:14:49

the neighbor kid is part of the problem that

1:14:51

Heather, she counts herself once and then counts herself

1:14:53

later. So I feel like Heather is

1:14:55

an underrated in

1:15:03

this. Yeah, I was overlooked

1:15:05

because she's young. Feel

1:15:08

free to point that out, Claire. The family watch. Who

1:15:14

said that Kevin you're such a

1:15:16

disease? Which sister is that? Kind

1:15:19

of the red-headed one, right? Or is that the one

1:15:21

that's in France? Yeah, that's

1:15:23

that one. Interesting. I don't

1:15:27

know. The counts are

1:15:29

some things. They're going to spend some time in therapy, I think.

1:15:32

It's a tough look for a lot of them. I

1:15:34

don't think they are. They're all like craven. That's

1:15:36

true. I will never go to therapy. They have

1:15:40

to spend much of their child getting robbed. And

1:15:44

you know what? How is Kevin not...

1:15:47

How did defects not get involved? After

1:15:51

you leave Kevin the first time, there's

1:15:54

not a second time. You can't

1:15:56

do that. Well,

1:15:58

they probably kept it under wraps. Oh man,

1:16:00

Marley should have really reported them to the

1:16:02

family services. You know, that's, it's a

1:16:04

failure on his part too. That's why I listed him

1:16:06

up and the potential people who were to blame for

1:16:09

this. It's as warmhearted as he was. He

1:16:11

really should have been looking out for the neighborhood kids. Just

1:16:14

a thought. All right, guys, I want to close

1:16:16

with, uh, someone on the

1:16:18

Reddit home alone page found the

1:16:20

playboy that buzz has the actual playboy here.

1:16:22

I don't know if you saw it in the

1:16:25

agenda here and on the playboy

1:16:27

here, it says, you know, the broadcast

1:16:29

nudes, uh, what's the thing I, uh, Shelly

1:16:32

Jamison, who knows if Shelly went on

1:16:34

to, you know, a further career of

1:16:36

being ourselves, but in the subhead of

1:16:38

this, it says plus colon golf in

1:16:40

all its glory. Uh,

1:16:42

and so I got to think there

1:16:45

was some golfer in this magazine who

1:16:47

was posing nude, uh, and

1:16:49

I guess, you know, I'm, I'm just kind of curious what, who

1:16:51

do you think this could have possibly been? Uh,

1:16:54

my vote was for Nick Faldo. Uh, he had

1:16:56

won two majors the prior year and two majors

1:16:58

in 1990. So perhaps

1:17:00

that we don't know that Nick Faldo was, was,

1:17:02

uh, did one of the playboy interviews and posed

1:17:04

nude in this magazine. I just were shocked to

1:17:06

find another golf connection in this film that very

1:17:09

minor, but, uh, thanks to Reddit, we're able

1:17:11

to fund on nurse. It

1:17:13

says interview with Barry Diller as well.

1:17:16

And it says Vietnam vet gets

1:17:18

straight talk from Afghan vets, which,

1:17:21

all right. So that's, that's a question I have. This

1:17:23

is 1990. Yeah. We

1:17:25

didn't, we, there was no war in

1:17:27

Afghanistan. There was, there was Afghan, there

1:17:29

was a Soviet war, but like,

1:17:32

and we armed them, but we didn't go in

1:17:34

there. Is that kind

1:17:36

of weird? I

1:17:38

don't know. Maybe, uh, I mean, we're going to look

1:17:40

foolish to the foreign policy, uh, wonks here, maybe we should

1:17:42

have brought Cody in for this part. Cause he probably

1:17:44

could have explained like what exactly was

1:17:47

going on or maybe honestly, TC though, you got to

1:17:49

think about it from a world perspective. Maybe

1:17:51

like one of the soldiers from Afghanistan was

1:17:53

in there. Like, you know, getting, it wasn't

1:17:56

necessarily an American sort of discussion. That's true. That's

1:17:58

true. It could have been. The British

1:18:00

were messing around in Afghanistan. It's

1:18:03

hard to know exactly. It is. Hand

1:18:05

up there. Yeah. All right. Uh,

1:18:08

any closing thoughts, anything you will remember

1:18:10

from this Home Alone

1:18:12

and rewatch experience? It's

1:18:17

a good time of year to do it. Cause now I'm like

1:18:19

eager to watch it again. So that's, that's good. Yeah,

1:18:22

I think for me, it was, it was looking

1:18:25

into a, how Home

1:18:27

Alone 3 was ever green lit and how

1:18:29

it's just such a stain on. Yeah.

1:18:32

Cause two, like two is one of the rare sequels

1:18:34

that actually lives up to it's like Die Hard, right?

1:18:37

Which I would argue Die Hard is also a Christmas

1:18:39

movie. Um, or Die

1:18:41

Hard 2. Die Hard

1:18:43

original is a Christmas movie. Die Hard the original is

1:18:45

one. I think Die Hard 2 is set

1:18:48

around the holidays too, isn't it? I

1:18:50

think I heard two is in the summer. Uh,

1:18:53

is that, I thought it

1:18:55

was, no, because they've got a dullest and it's snowy. Oh,

1:18:57

you're right. You're right. Yeah. Maybe we're going to have to

1:18:59

do a Die Hard perfect club. This is, this is a

1:19:01

tough look for us. But it's, I

1:19:03

don't know. It's one of those things where a

1:19:06

Home Alone 3 was awful. And then I think

1:19:08

he did the, I've never

1:19:10

seen home sweet Home Alone. That's

1:19:12

the sixth moment of the Home Alone

1:19:14

franchise. So what's the fifth

1:19:16

and sixth or the fourth and fifth one? I

1:19:19

don't know. There, I think they're like direct to

1:19:21

VHS or direct the movie. Direct to the three.

1:19:23

When did the characters switch though? Like after

1:19:25

two, right? After two. And that's

1:19:28

the thing. I never watched. There are terrible

1:19:30

villains in three. The kids

1:19:32

not dynamic at all. Yeah. The,

1:19:35

and it's all about some like, it's kind of

1:19:38

like, uh, where's that jingle all the

1:19:40

way. It's, it's like this stupid

1:19:42

computer chip thing that's in this remote

1:19:45

control car. It's just not like it's,

1:19:47

it's a stain on John Hughes legacy,

1:19:49

I think. So Home Alone, Kevin

1:19:51

McCallister is in Home Alone 4, although it is

1:19:53

not played by Macaulay Culkin. So I don't know

1:19:55

if you're, it is the same character, but then

1:19:58

they switch up the actors. I

1:20:00

will say this, I was

1:20:02

aware in doing my research for this

1:20:04

podcast, I looked up home home

1:20:06

sweet home alone and saw that

1:20:08

our friend Tim Simmons is in that film.

1:20:11

Uh, and so I invited him to come

1:20:13

along and talk about this and he respectfully

1:20:15

declined, uh, we'll, we can't exactly get the

1:20:17

dish on home sweet home alone just

1:20:20

yet. But perhaps in the future, I will

1:20:22

spring out on him in a future perfect

1:20:24

club, uh, and ask him to defend, uh,

1:20:27

that this franchise in general. Maybe

1:20:30

one other question for you. Have you ever seen

1:20:32

a furnace like that? Ooh.

1:20:35

In the basement. You know what,

1:20:37

now that you mentioned it, my grandparents

1:20:39

in Great Falls, Montana had

1:20:42

a very old, very scary

1:20:44

furnace. And I went

1:20:47

down, they had this huge house. Uh,

1:20:50

and I, I, the basement was

1:20:53

always as very scary, like

1:20:55

unfinished, like brick walls, uh, kind

1:20:57

of place. And I

1:20:59

remember sneaking down there a couple of times

1:21:01

as a kid and being kind

1:21:04

of freaked out and feeling like the

1:21:06

furnace, maybe from this film, that

1:21:09

it was its own kind of living thing. Uh,

1:21:11

I'm going to have some nightmares tonight. He's just

1:21:13

thinking about this. So thank you for that. But

1:21:15

yeah, not, no,

1:21:17

furnaces obviously look very different now, but, uh,

1:21:19

man. They, yeah. Basements

1:21:23

are just scary. Like your parents' basement, unless

1:21:25

it was finished or something. But I remember

1:21:28

going down to the basement and coming up as

1:21:30

quickly as humanly possible, if I needed to get

1:21:32

something like it was just dark.

1:21:34

And yeah, there probably wasn't going

1:21:36

to turn your lights off before.

1:21:39

Yeah. Before you get up the stairs. Right.

1:21:42

Uh, yeah, see my, my kids are never going

1:21:44

to know that. Cause we don't have that. Like

1:21:46

I've been to Florida and all the basements. Are

1:21:49

there any basements in Florida TC or is it,

1:21:51

you gotta be like super wealthy to have a

1:21:53

basement that just wouldn't, wouldn't be penetrated by, you

1:21:55

know, hurricane. I don't think it's a matter of

1:21:57

well, so I guess. I

1:22:00

mean, I think if you're built up

1:22:02

on like a sand dune or I

1:22:04

would imagine there's probably some in the

1:22:07

central part of the state. Like there's a big sand

1:22:09

vane that kind of runs up through Orlando and stuff,

1:22:12

or maybe up in the panhandle there's some,

1:22:14

but yeah, I mean, anywhere near the coast,

1:22:16

no way. No chance. I

1:22:19

once got a very polite,

1:22:22

but somewhat scolding letter from a reader when

1:22:24

I was writing for the Baltimore Sun, because

1:22:26

I had gone to the Dominican Republic and

1:22:28

written about Sami Sosa's kind of upbringing when

1:22:30

the Orioles had that horrendous season with Sosa

1:22:32

they had traded for him. And

1:22:36

I sort of said that he, I

1:22:38

guess I misunderstood the Spanish interpretation. We had an interpreter

1:22:40

with us and I had taken like high school Spanish

1:22:42

and college Spanish. So I kind of thought that I

1:22:44

was maybe a little bit cocky that I was sort

1:22:47

of understanding. And then explaining about like

1:22:49

where Sosa grew up, I thought they said like

1:22:51

he grew up in a basement sort

1:22:53

of apartment in the Dominican Republic and somebody

1:22:55

wrote me, it was like, oh, Kevin, like,

1:22:58

there's no, there's no basements in the Dominican

1:23:00

Republic. Yeah, you

1:23:02

really need to do a little reading on

1:23:04

this one. But yeah, so. All

1:23:08

right. Well, I think I conclude another

1:23:10

Perfect Club. I guys, I really enjoyed

1:23:12

this. I've appreciated you guys encouraged me

1:23:15

to go back and watch Home Alone. Claire, I hope you'll take

1:23:17

some of this info that you learned

1:23:19

armed to sit your family, your old

1:23:21

30 of your family and

1:23:23

you'll be able to pepper them with various things coming.

1:23:27

Absolutely. Thank you for having me on. This is so much fun. We're

1:23:30

gonna have you back at some point. So you think

1:23:32

hard about what what other

1:23:34

things that you are obsessed with that

1:23:36

would be perfect. Do

1:23:39

you have access to your travel records?

1:23:43

Okay, yeah, wait, this is an app that I think I

1:23:45

want to be sponsored by because all I do is talk

1:23:47

about it. It's called app in the air. Do

1:23:49

you guys have this? There's probably no like

1:23:51

it, but it imports all

1:23:54

your flights from your email, like in a back dates them

1:23:56

all to. So I have a map.

1:24:00

Wow, do you know about the CCC? App

1:24:04

in the air it's free But

1:24:07

you can see that I see out over

1:24:09

here. Hold on There's

1:24:12

a bunch of little lines coming out of

1:24:14

Seattle to go to other places

1:24:16

down here. I Would

1:24:19

just love to see that like a catalog or

1:24:21

you know all the flights that

1:24:23

you took for however long that was

1:24:26

Yeah, just to see how outrageous these

1:24:28

points of points were the weirdest

1:24:30

one I think is Phoenix the other ones bring

1:24:32

me down to Down

1:24:36

to LA and yeah, San

1:24:38

Diego is one Phoenix

1:24:41

kind of incredible. I know I don't know

1:24:43

if you're a big trapdoor listener, but this

1:24:45

is very much catnip for DC So

1:24:49

nothing more outrageous than like but you

1:24:52

didn't fly from Boston to Seattle to

1:24:56

like Florida or Boston Like

1:25:01

it was to get to places in the southeast there might

1:25:03

have been a Texas one, but I don't think so so

1:25:06

bad I'm

1:25:10

glad I realized it eventually cuz imagine if I

1:25:12

was still doing that like gets in New

1:25:14

York by way of Seattle You

1:25:17

can make it a bit, you know What

1:25:24

is something to like, you know, Alaska doesn't

1:25:26

even fly into Jack's and he came in

1:25:28

for the players like shit I guess I

1:25:30

guess I gotta do it. I got a

1:25:32

drive from Tampa. Well, that was the

1:25:34

other thing it was like I was Funny

1:25:37

and then flying to where they the closest place

1:25:39

they could get me and then I had to

1:25:41

drive from there So I'd have like four-hour drives,

1:25:43

which is ridiculous Awesome,

1:25:54

I didn't know it's so bad

1:25:57

cuz I like for the first

1:25:59

year I traveled, there was like

1:26:01

a colossal mistake every single time. And

1:26:03

now I've gotten to the point where

1:26:06

it's not as bad, but

1:26:08

there's always just something that was so wrong.

1:26:10

Like I had just, I would leave my

1:26:12

like stupid things, like leave my phone and

1:26:14

then go through check-in and then be like,

1:26:16

where's my phone? Have to leave check-in again.

1:26:18

Like such a mess, but we are finally

1:26:21

figured it out. Knock on wood. Are

1:26:24

you like a one airline woman these days?

1:26:26

Delta now. Delta. Okay. I'll

1:26:29

do Jepel if I need to, but

1:26:31

Delta is my go-to, which

1:26:34

makes a lot more sense. Then

1:26:36

probably, you know, and you

1:26:39

can get a lot of places on Delta from

1:26:41

the Northeast, but probably Atlanta quite

1:26:43

a bit as well. I fly direct as

1:26:46

much as I can because it minimizes

1:26:48

mistakes. Um, but

1:26:50

yeah, so Atlanta was usually the one. Gotcha.

1:26:53

All right. Well, what an

1:26:55

unexpected delight to have a lot

1:26:58

of airline talk in this one.

1:27:01

Thank you everyone for, for tuning

1:27:03

in. Uh, we'll be back, I think in the new year

1:27:05

with a couple of perfect clubs at TC and I've been,

1:27:08

been cooking up and I'm sure more airline talks.

1:27:10

You might have to invite Claire just in for

1:27:12

a guest spot. This is one

1:27:14

of the more incredible airline travel that I think

1:27:17

we've ever had. Yeah. Which yes,

1:27:19

speaking of airlines too, I, you

1:27:21

know, I ran into an air traffic controller at the

1:27:23

coffee. We got this morning, came up

1:27:25

and he thanked me for, for my

1:27:27

name from the traffic and he said, things

1:27:30

aren't good right now in TC. It's

1:27:33

bad. I don't know if you saw that New York times

1:27:36

feature, uh, last week, but. It's

1:27:38

terrifying. So anyway, neither here nor there,

1:27:41

we will, we will do our airports

1:27:43

pod, uh, here in January. So Claire,

1:27:47

thank you. Thanks guys. Thank

1:27:49

you. Greg on. Okay.

1:28:01

I remember night nine,

1:28:04

I didn't remember night nine.

1:28:07

I damn knew we'd be great and together. Hey, I'm your

1:28:09

favorite rapper, baby rapper. Hey,

1:28:12

I'm your favorite rapper, baby rapper.

1:28:14

The absolute folk, yeah, I know,

1:28:17

so-so. Who knows what I'm gonna do? I'm

1:28:20

gonna do it. I'm

1:28:22

gonna do it. I'm gonna do it.

1:28:26

I'm gonna do it. Yeah, I

1:28:28

know, so-so. Who knew I'm

1:28:30

hurt from the track?