Live from the National Association of Broadcasters Trade Show in New York City, Mike and Brandon sit down with Wendy Zuckerman, host of the Science Vs podcast from Gimlet Media. The trio goes deep on the importance of science in an era of fake news and a crisis of trust while digging into the topics of many of Wendy's shows. We also explore whether you can be both educational and entertaining at the same time. Wendy shares some of the inner workings of producing an information-rich, entertaining audio experience about Science. Thanks to Wendy, Gimlet Media, Podcast Movement, and NAB for giving us the chance to drive into new formats and approaches to podcasting. Have a listen and let us know what you think. And stay tuned for more from this event which we'll release as an extra later this week!