Anne Lamott is an American novelist, non-fiction writer, progressive political activist, public speaker, and writing teacher.
"Your life will be greatly enhanced by spending time with dying people," Anne Lamott says. "Death is not the enemy. Snakes are."  Sign up for our newsletter at, and every Wednesday we'll send you podcast listening recommendations, listener letters from our inbox and updates from the show. Follow our show on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram @deathsexmoney. Got a story to share? Email us any time at  Support Death, Sex & Money today at
Anne Lamott is a progressive political activist and writer, the bestselling  author of such books as Bird by Bird, Traveling Mercies, Operating Instructions, Plan B, and her latest, Almost Everything: Notes on Hope. We're such fans of Anne Lamott that we've decided to devote an entire episode of The Upgrade to her.  We talk to Anne about almost everything, including but not limited to: how to deal with the news cycle; having compassion for our small upsets in the face of large tragedies; how help can be a form of control; comparing our insides to other people’s insides; and the horrors of visiting the DMV.
How do you get out of a cycle of feeling spiritually dry? (17:30-30:55) We talk to author Anne Lamott about mercy, recovery, and her new book Hallelujah Anyway (31:38-48:19) What are the differences in communication and boundaries in close friendships and serious romantic relationships? (49:01-1:11:23) Closing Song: Micah 6:8 (The Poolhouse Guru)  
On this episode of Healing at the Edge, Dale chats with writer Anne Lamott about spirituality and politics. They discuss keeping an open heart and finding compassion while navigating the divisive political landscape. We are reminded by Anne and Dale that surrendering to compassion means having compassion for ourselves and our enemies, as well as our friends. Showing compassion for ourselves allows us to overcome our imperfections by accepting them. It is simply up to us to surrender to compassion.
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Apr 11th, 1954
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3 hours, 3 minutes