Fred Dust is an author of Making Conversation: 7 Essential Elements of Meaningful Communication.
‘We need to talk.’ These three simple words can send a rush of anxiety through our bodies in fear of whatever unbearable conversation awaits us. Fred Dust has a wealth of experience in navigating difficult conversations and he wants to help us to only pluck the courage to have them, but also build the skills necessary for meaningful conversation.Visit Fred Dust’s website to buy the book, Making Conversation | TribeWe have our own private social network for listeners of the Unmistakable Creative podcast. You can meet other listeners, discuss episodes, and engage with the creative community! Just visit to sign up.  See for privacy and opt-out information.
How do we ignite healthy conversations to illuminate hope in complex issues? In this episode, Joanne and Sarah interview Fred Dust, author of Making Conversation. Fred is a champion of the arts and civil society, supporting the visionary work of independent artists as a board member of the Sundance Institute and National Public Radio (NPR). His thought leadership has led to new thinking and ways to shift societal narratives.“My legacy is to be out there relentlessly telling stories of people who get through the hardest conversations in their life, and do it successfully.”
Kelly talks to former IDEO executive Fred Dust about his terrific new book, Making Conversation.
Fred Dust is a former Global Managing Partner at the acclaimed international design firm IDEO, where he worked with leaders and change agents to unlock the creative potential of business, government, education, and philanthropic organizations. Fred has worked with the US Agency for International Development, the US Office of Personnel Management, and the US Social Security Administration to create citizen-centered strategies and the structures to implement them. He’s also collaborated closely with the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation, the Knight Foundation, the MacArthur Foundation, and Bloomberg Philanthropies to improve the impact and reach of their programs. Fred is on the Board of Trustees for the Sundance Institute, on the Board of Directors for NPR, and is Chair of the board of Parsons School of Design. His new book is Making Conversation, a primer for creating effective strategies that yield creative and pleasurable conversations.
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