Jessica Abel is an American comic book writer and artist, known as the creator of such works as Life Sucks, Drawing Words & Writing Pictures, Soundtrack, La Perdida, Mirror, Window, Radio: An Illustrated Guide (with collaborator Ira Glass), and the omnibus series Artbabe.
Photo by Lauréne DuCrocq I can't believe I've done 15 episodes of Creative Playdate! This episode is the last one for Season One and I will be back with Season Two in a couple of months. This week's episode features the incredibly talented Jessica Abel. Her list of accomplishments is far too long for these show notes but you may know her from her graphic novels, like La Perdida or Trish Trash: Rollergirl of Mars, her textbook Drawing Words & Writing Pictures (written with husband, Matt Madden) or she may even be your teacher. Somehow she's been able to do all of these things all while raising two children. We talk about moving her family to Angoulême, France for four years and the adjustments they've had to make when their children started school in the U.S. Parenting is always unexpected in different ways and it has been no different for Jessica. For those of us who find it hard to maintain our creativity while our lives swirl around us, Jessica has a book for that, Growing Gills: How to find creative focus when you're drowning in your daily life. I suppose I say this every episode (and I don't know how else to say it), but thank you so very much for listening and sharing the show. I love getting to have these conversations and I've already got a great lineup started for Season Two. You can follow me on Twitter @MissIllustrator and Instagram @mkondrich and you can see my illustration at The show is syndicated on Illustration Age and our theme music was created by Thomas James and Jason Ritz. Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts! 
Jessica Abel is known to some for her comics/graphic novels such asLa Perdida, ArtBabe, Life Sucks, or Trish Trash. A new, teen-to-adult audience are about to know her from her coming November new release Trish Trash, Roller Girl of Mars. Still others know her for a skinny little handbook she and Ira Glass of this American Life put together in 1999 called Radio: An Illustrated GuideI only knew Jessica Abel's name as the editor of the annual Best American Comics anthologies I loved, until last spring, when, in a mix of preparation/procrastination for beginning this podcast, I was reading her hit book, Out on the Wire: The Storytelling Secrets of the New Masters of Radio.The book led me to her podcast, which led me to her Creative Focus workshop, which helps artists get shit done. The workshop was six weeks long, six weeks which, coincidentally were scheduled to end exactly when I'd told myself (my fourth such deadline, the first three having failed miserably) that Episode 1 would be done and dropped! When that workshop and those six weeks were up, Episode 1 of 15 Minutes launched, and five months later, here we are at Episode 16.Jessica and I talked about fame, of course, and her books, and went deep into one of her primary missions of her work/creative life: "Helping creative people make their work, not just dream about it."Find her stuff at:***Please rate review subscribe on iTunes or wherever you listen,and find us at:http://15minutuesjamieberger.comor by searching "15 minutes jamie berger" on facebookorWe’re@15minsjamiebOn twitter and instagramANDLast, and newest, any day now I’ll be up and asking you for money at patreon.comThanks! For information regarding your data privacy, visit
Jessica Abel is the author of Out on the Wire. "The group edit format, while emotionally difficult, actually is an incredibly efficient tool. In an hour, two hours, you can get the intellectual work done on a piece that could take weeks without it.”
Jessica Abel joins us to talk about her new book, OUT ON THE WIRE, a comic book about narrative nonfiction radio. She praises editors, encourages workshops, and wants you to start your project! About the book: Jessica's podcast:
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