'Bloomberg Businessweek' columnist Joshua Green explains how President Trump fell for a media campaign that was designed to help him: "The irony is that the target was supposed to be the Bidens, not the president," he says.Also, Maureen Corrigan reviews the new memoir 'How We Fight For Our Lives' by Saeed Jones, about growing up gay and black in Texas.And Kevin Whitehead reviews the new album 'The Ambiguity Manifesto' by cornet player and composer Taylor Ho Bynum.
After chief strategist Steve Bannon was ousted from the Trump White House in August, Joshua Green was the first journalist he called. Green's best-selling book about Bannon's role in Trump's election, 'Devil's Bargain,' might've played a part in his exit. We talk with Green about what Bannon thinks of #MeToo, the future of the nationalist movement, and his eagerness to get back to the White House. Also, we remember Pakistani human rights lawyer Asma Jahangir, who died Sunday.