Meet Guy Platten, Secretary-General, International Chamber of Shipping, ICS, representing 80 pct of the world's merchant fleet. He speaks about the realisations he has had during the last year. What will the new normal look like? What are the most pressing things to solve once we get the vaccine in place? Guy tells me that it is a strategic ambition of ICS to build the maritime industry profile, which of course makes me very happy! We also hear about the crew change crises and why it was hard to bring governments to understand the important role that shipping and seafarers play to keep society going in the pandemic. If you have anything to add to this, please give me a shout-out, I am @lenagothberg in social media, the email address is firstname.lastname@example.org Thank you for listening.