Mark Fleischer is an entertainment executive and attorney and serves as Chairman and CEO of Fleischer Studios.
Betty Boop is a beloved cultural icon, but she was controversial in her heyday. I talk with Mark Fleischer – grandson of Betty Boop’s co-creator Max Fleischer – and Mark’s wife Susan Wilking Horan about how the character was created and why she still endures. I also talk with film critic Marya Gates and Professor Thomas Doherty about how the Hays Code, which censored Betty Boop, had a profound impact on the moral universe of Hollywood films, and why this defunct production code is still influencing movies up to this day, especially with fantasy entertainment. Today's episode is brought to you by BetterHelp and Amazon's Faraway Collection. Want to advertise/sponsor our show? We have partnered with AdvertiseCast to handle our advertising/sponsorship requests. They’re great to work with and will help you advertise on our show. Please email or click the link below to get started. Imaginary Worlds AdvertiseCast Listing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
  Mark Fleischer is the grandson of renowned animation pioneer Max Fleischer, and CEO of Fleischer Studios in California. .  Our connection here is that Max's sister was my brother Bill and my grandmother.  So this is a thrill in many ways to connect with him.   Thanks again to Ginny Mahoney Max’s granddaughter) for connecting me with Mark in the first place.  It made for a fascinating look into the creations and inventions of Max and his brothers.   Go to for extensive detailed history and archived cartoons!       I dedicate this podcast to all my family members who are branches of this big tree...(I’ll never get to them all......apologies in advance..).  but they include..   Ethel (Max Fleischer’s sister) and Ben Phillips (grandparents) Their 3 Kids and spouses:  Morton and Rosalind Phillips  (mom and dad),  Larry and Phyllis Phillips (aunt and uncle) Paula and Maurice Seide (aunt and uncle)   THEIR KIDS AND SPOUSES in order of the couples above...   Morton and Rosalind Phillips: RICHIE AND DORRIE PHILLIPS BILL AND KAREN PHILLIPS   Larry and Phyllis Phillips: DIANE AND DR MARK STENCLIK NANCY AND MERRICK GOTLIB DR. PAUL PHILLIPS   Paula and Maurice Seide STEVE AND SUSAN SEIDE ARLENE AND GEORGE NELSON   AND TO THE MANY KIDS OF THOSE KIDS, THEIR SPOUSES AND THEIR KIDS......  OMG -What did I get myself into!   Thanks to my brother Bill Phillips, our son Ben Phillips, niece Jessica Lorenz  and nephew Tyler Phillips, and cousin Steve Seide for contributing questions.  I know my nephew Matt Phillips would have but is in the weeds covering the stock market debacle.. Please enjoy the podcast and I would appreciate if could subscribe and even leave a comment.  It helps greatly!   And one more thing - if you are planning a function and want entertainment (live keyboards with vocals or recorded music- DJ style.)...go to  
Join Tammy Coron and Tim Mitra on Episode 121, which was recorded on February 20, 2019. On this episode, they talk with Mark Fleischer. Mark is the President and CEO of Fleischer Studios. Fleischer Studios was responsible for creating and animating some of the most beloved characters in American animation — including Betty Boop and Koko the Clown. Mark is also the son of the legendary movie director, Richard Fleischer (20,000 Leagues Under the Sea) and grandson to Max Fleischer (creator of Betty Boop). He called into the studio to share some of his family history. If you like listening to Roundabout: Creative Chaos, and you want to know how you can help support the show, please consider making a small donation. Your support helps us cover the costs of hosting, post-production, and other administrative fees.
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